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Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

< https://medium.com/@jeff_kaye/repor...eas-on-north-korea-in-march-1952-66b853f05ada >

"From Dec. 13, 1946 memorandum from Frank Tavenner, Chief Prosecutor, IMTFE, to Soviet Major-General A. N. Vasilyev, concerning possible prosecution of Unit 731 for use of biological weapons (link)After World War II, Ch’en’s report was subsequently filed with The International Military Tribunal For The Far East (IMTFE), which conducted war crime trials of Japanese military and civilian authorities.
In a controversial decision by the chief prosecutor for the IMTFE, Frank Tavenner, no evidence on biological warfare charges was allowed in the postwar war crimes trials. Supposedly this was because prosecutors could not link the germ warfare crimes to anyone who was specifically on trial. But in actuality, the U.S. had made a secret agreement with Japan’s biological warfare experts not to prosecute them if they gave all their data and expertise to U.S. biological warfare and intelligence departments.
Looking now at the evidence first found by Pak Yun-Ho, Dr. Ch’en concluded that the Korean and Chinese scientists were correct in identifying the Kang-Sou incident as a plague attack.
ISC investigators recounted his testimony: “The whole picture in the case of this peasant-farmer was identical not only with that of those where the Japanese disseminated fleas infected with Pasteurella pestis between 1940 and 1944, but also with that of several other places in the northern part of Korea in 1952 where plague fleas suddenly appeared in large numbers after the passage of American planes…. The phenomena of 1952 were, in his opinion, on a considerably larger scale than anything which the Japanese had ever attempted.”.......
"Col. Frank H. Schwable, pictured as POW, People’s China, March 16, 1953 (link)
According to a statement by Colonel Frank Schwable, Chief of Staff of the First Marine Aircraft Wing, given to Chinese interrogators after his plane was shot down in on July 8, 1952, “The general plan for bacteriological warfare in Korea was directed by the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff in October, 1951…. The basic objective was at that time to test, under field conditions, the various elements of bacteriological warfare, and to possibly expand the field tests, at a later date, into an element of the regular combat operations, depending on the results obtained and the situation in Korea.”
Schwable continued, “Terrain types to be tested included high areas, seacoast areas, open spaces, areas enclosed by mountains, isolated areas, areas relatively adjacent to one another, large and small towns and cities, congested cities and those relatively spread out….
All possible methods of delivery were to be tested as well as tactics developed to include initially, night attack and then expanding into day attack by specialized squadrons.”
It wasn’t until May 24, 1952 that, according to Col. Schwable, “General Barcus, Commanding General, 5th Air Force… directed General Jerome to extend the bacteriological warfare conducted by the 1st Marine Aircraft Wing into its operational stage.”
It would appear that much of what seems strange about the early months of the U.S. biological warfare campaign was due to its provisional, experimental nature."

Does this give clarity to North Korea's claims to fear an attack by the USA and drives the need for NUKES?

Yes
No
Other
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

I recommend reading the linked article in its' entirety. Well written and documented.
Nothing USA citizens want to hear because the USA gov't has denied this repeatedly.
Gosh, they wouldn't lie to us lowly peon taxpayers, would they?
Politicians and lies are like white and rice.
/
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

I recommend reading the linked article in its' entirety. Well written and documented.
Nothing USA citizens want to hear because the USA gov't has denied this repeatedly.
Gosh, they wouldn't lie to us lowly peon taxpayers, would they?
Politicians and lies are like white and rice.
/

CT Forum is that way - - - - >
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

I recommend reading the linked article in its' entirety. Well written and documented.
Nothing USA citizens want to hear because the USA gov't has denied this repeatedly.
Gosh, they wouldn't lie to us lowly peon taxpayers, would they?
Politicians and lies are like white and rice.
/

Political lies are protected speech. Guess until We the People want to change that...then we get what we deserve, FAKE POLITICIANS making fake claims in order to be elected...and more so after they get in office.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

< https://medium.com/@jeff_kaye/repor...eas-on-north-korea-in-march-1952-66b853f05ada >

"From Dec. 13, 1946 memorandum from Frank Tavenner, Chief Prosecutor, IMTFE, to Soviet Major-General A. N. Vasilyev, concerning possible prosecution of Unit 731 for use of biological weapons (link)After World War II, Ch’en’s report was subsequently filed with The International Military Tribunal For The Far East (IMTFE), which conducted war crime trials of Japanese military and civilian authorities.
In a controversial decision by the chief prosecutor for the IMTFE, Frank Tavenner, no evidence on biological warfare charges was allowed in the postwar war crimes trials. Supposedly this was because prosecutors could not link the germ warfare crimes to anyone who was specifically on trial. But in actuality, the U.S. had made a secret agreement with Japan’s biological warfare experts not to prosecute them if they gave all their data and expertise to U.S. biological warfare and intelligence departments.
Looking now at the evidence first found by Pak Yun-Ho, Dr. Ch’en concluded that the Korean and Chinese scientists were correct in identifying the Kang-Sou incident as a plague attack.
ISC investigators recounted his testimony: “The whole picture in the case of this peasant-farmer was identical not only with that of those where the Japanese disseminated fleas infected with Pasteurella pestis between 1940 and 1944, but also with that of several other places in the northern part of Korea in 1952 where plague fleas suddenly appeared in large numbers after the passage of American planes…. The phenomena of 1952 were, in his opinion, on a considerably larger scale than anything which the Japanese had ever attempted.”.......
"Col. Frank H. Schwable, pictured as POW, People’s China, March 16, 1953 (link)
According to a statement by Colonel Frank Schwable, Chief of Staff of the First Marine Aircraft Wing, given to Chinese interrogators after his plane was shot down in on July 8, 1952, “The general plan for bacteriological warfare in Korea was directed by the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff in October, 1951…. The basic objective was at that time to test, under field conditions, the various elements of bacteriological warfare, and to possibly expand the field tests, at a later date, into an element of the regular combat operations, depending on the results obtained and the situation in Korea.”
Schwable continued, “Terrain types to be tested included high areas, seacoast areas, open spaces, areas enclosed by mountains, isolated areas, areas relatively adjacent to one another, large and small towns and cities, congested cities and those relatively spread out….
All possible methods of delivery were to be tested as well as tactics developed to include initially, night attack and then expanding into day attack by specialized squadrons.”
It wasn’t until May 24, 1952 that, according to Col. Schwable, “General Barcus, Commanding General, 5th Air Force… directed General Jerome to extend the bacteriological warfare conducted by the 1st Marine Aircraft Wing into its operational stage.”
It would appear that much of what seems strange about the early months of the U.S. biological warfare campaign was due to its provisional, experimental nature."

Does this give clarity to North Korea's claims to fear an attack by the USA and drives the need for NUKES?

Yes
No
Other

If the American government did this - it's biological warfare. Period. That's a serious charge.

But most governments with power status in the world will lie to their respective citizens - even when it isn't necessary.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Shouldn't this be in Conspiracy?
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

If the American government did this - it's biological warfare. Period. That's a serious charge.

But most governments with power status in the world will lie to their respective citizens - even when it isn't necessary.

Think for a moment.

A pilot shot down over NK details the entire supposed operation from top to bottom, left to right, with such detail...

Methinks this is more NK made up Bull****.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Whistle blowers would have said something. There would be some proof.

A lot of horrible things happened almost a hundred years ago, some more authorized than others. If this was true, it would be declassified and condemned. It wouldn't hold any bearing on America today.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

I recommend reading the linked article in its' entirety. Well written and documented.
Nothing USA citizens want to hear because the USA gov't has denied this repeatedly.
Gosh, they wouldn't lie to us lowly peon taxpayers, would they?
Politicians and lies are like white and rice.
/

It was a different world back then. Biological warfare wasn't banned at that point.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

< https://medium.com/@jeff_kaye/repor...eas-on-north-korea-in-march-1952-66b853f05ada >

"From Dec. 13, 1946 memorandum from Frank Tavenner, Chief Prosecutor, IMTFE, to Soviet Major-General A. N. Vasilyev, concerning possible prosecution of Unit 731 for use of biological weapons (link)After World War II, Ch’en’s report was subsequently filed with The International Military Tribunal For The Far East (IMTFE), which conducted war crime trials of Japanese military and civilian authorities.
In a controversial decision by the chief prosecutor for the IMTFE, Frank Tavenner, no evidence on biological warfare charges was allowed in the postwar war crimes trials. Supposedly this was because prosecutors could not link the germ warfare crimes to anyone who was specifically on trial. But in actuality, the U.S. had made a secret agreement with Japan’s biological warfare experts not to prosecute them if they gave all their data and expertise to U.S. biological warfare and intelligence departments.
Looking now at the evidence first found by Pak Yun-Ho, Dr. Ch’en concluded that the Korean and Chinese scientists were correct in identifying the Kang-Sou incident as a plague attack.
ISC investigators recounted his testimony: “The whole picture in the case of this peasant-farmer was identical not only with that of those where the Japanese disseminated fleas infected with Pasteurella pestis between 1940 and 1944, but also with that of several other places in the northern part of Korea in 1952 where plague fleas suddenly appeared in large numbers after the passage of American planes…. The phenomena of 1952 were, in his opinion, on a considerably larger scale than anything which the Japanese had ever attempted.”.......
"Col. Frank H. Schwable, pictured as POW, People’s China, March 16, 1953 (link)
According to a statement by Colonel Frank Schwable, Chief of Staff of the First Marine Aircraft Wing, given to Chinese interrogators after his plane was shot down in on July 8, 1952, “The general plan for bacteriological warfare in Korea was directed by the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff in October, 1951…. The basic objective was at that time to test, under field conditions, the various elements of bacteriological warfare, and to possibly expand the field tests, at a later date, into an element of the regular combat operations, depending on the results obtained and the situation in Korea.”
Schwable continued, “Terrain types to be tested included high areas, seacoast areas, open spaces, areas enclosed by mountains, isolated areas, areas relatively adjacent to one another, large and small towns and cities, congested cities and those relatively spread out….
All possible methods of delivery were to be tested as well as tactics developed to include initially, night attack and then expanding into day attack by specialized squadrons.”
It wasn’t until May 24, 1952 that, according to Col. Schwable, “General Barcus, Commanding General, 5th Air Force… directed General Jerome to extend the bacteriological warfare conducted by the 1st Marine Aircraft Wing into its operational stage.”
It would appear that much of what seems strange about the early months of the U.S. biological warfare campaign was due to its provisional, experimental nature."

Does this give clarity to North Korea's claims to fear an attack by the USA and drives the need for NUKES?

Yes
No
Other

Truman, that ruthless bastard. Democrats should be banned from ever holding the Presidency. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

CT Forum is that way - - - - >

The report is well documented. It is historical. Worse, it's true.
/
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Truman, that ruthless bastard. Democrats should be banned from ever holding the Presidency. :mrgreen:

Parties using CT against each other. Great idea.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

The report is well documented. It is historical. Worse, it's true.
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And you believe it justifies the NK regime getting and keeping nukes.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

The report is well documented. It is historical. Worse, it's true.
/

The Craziest Things That North Korean Leaders Have Claimed

https://www.ranker.com/list/craziest-things-north-korean-leaders-have-claimed/nathan-gibson

The North Koreans claimed to have sank a ship that wasnt even operational at the time the battle occured:

A museum in Pyongyang, North Korea, preserved a poster claiming that Baltimore was sunk by the Korean People's Navy on 2 July 1950. A torpedo boat which 'sank it' is also displayed there. Though the actual battle occurred in 1950, Baltimore was held in decommissioned reserve from 1946 to 1951. She was then once again commissioned, but assigned to the Atlantic Fleet until 1955. The battle actually involved USS Juneau as well as the British sloop HMS Black Swan and cruiser HMS Jamaica, who together destroyed several North Korean torpedo boats escorting supply vessels without any significant return fire from the North Koreans.

They lie.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Whistle blowers would have said something. There would be some proof.

A lot of horrible things happened almost a hundred years ago, some more authorized than others. If this was true, it would be declassified and condemned. It wouldn't hold any bearing on America today.

What you really mean is that you don't want to believe it.
/
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

WTF kind of link is that? Methinks this is BS
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

And you believe it justifies the NK regime getting and keeping nukes.

It explains why they have a genuine FEAR of being attacked by the USA, even with NUKES. Their USA has demonstrated a low moral character regarding evil war acts in the recent past.
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Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

It explains why they have a genuine FEAR of being attacked by the USA, even with NUKES. Their USA has demonstrated a low moral character regarding evil war acts in the recent past.
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Regardless of the past, tyrannical dictators should fear the US.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Shouldn't this be in Conspiracy?

Yes.

In February 1952, the communists launched a propaganda war against the U.S. and the UN. Soviet Ambassador to the UN, Yakov Malik, accused UN forces of firing bullets that spread toxic gas in Korea. North Korea and China accused the U.S. of "bombing" North Korea with infected insects. The UN was also accused firing artillery shells containing germs and for dropping snails, flies, and rats from airplanes. In March 1952, the Chinese declared that the U.S. was spreading bubonic plague, cholera, and typhus over Manchuria and North Korea.

Since large parts of Asia was starting to believe the propoganda, the International Committee of the Red Cross and the World Health Organization offered to investigate in North Korea and Manchuria. In the face of repeated refusal of access, the communist credibility with this nosedived. The communist gave up the game.

In the mean time, American POWS continued to be exploited. The communists began broadcasting speeches made by American troops, calling on the U.S. to give up. They were constantly tortured, questioned, and pushed to admit to germ/biological warfare and whatever else could be used to discredit UN efforts. They were "reeductaed," forced to denegrate themselves as criminals, make false statements, forced to spy on each other, and some even murdered. There were some Courts Martial handed out after POWs were finally released, fourteen to be exact. 38% of American POWs died in captivity. Compare that to the mere four percent in German camps during WWII and we can easily see the BS behind the propaganda and what the prisoners went through.

But in the end, despite the communists accusations and forcing some POWs to declare it so, the Red Cross and WHO were simply not permitted to even investigate.

So yes, it belongs to conspiracy.

Incidentally, the whole matter led to the creation of the Code of Conduct.
 
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Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

The Craziest Things That North Korean Leaders Have Claimed

https://www.ranker.com/list/craziest-things-north-korean-leaders-have-claimed/nathan-gibson

The North Koreans claimed to have sank a ship that wasnt even operational at the time the battle occured:

A museum in Pyongyang, North Korea, preserved a poster claiming that Baltimore was sunk by the Korean People's Navy on 2 July 1950. A torpedo boat which 'sank it' is also displayed there. Though the actual battle occurred in 1950, Baltimore was held in decommissioned reserve from 1946 to 1951. She was then once again commissioned, but assigned to the Atlantic Fleet until 1955. The battle actually involved USS Juneau as well as the British sloop HMS Black Swan and cruiser HMS Jamaica, who together destroyed several North Korean torpedo boats escorting supply vessels without any significant return fire from the North Koreans.

They lie.

Your brainwaves are massaged daily by the MSM agenda driven narrative and you don't know it. You think you are way to superior to be influenced and not be aware of it. This plague issue is a perfect example of denying FACT because it goes against the propaganda fairy tale. I feel shamed by this article because I am a genuine patriot and, once again, the gov't has let me down.
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Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

The report is well documented. It is historical. Worse, it's true.
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No it is not well documented. It is based on hearsay from farmers, NK government officials who we KNOW are corrupt and a coerced statement from a captured Col.

No thank you, as already pointed out, the CT is that way --------------------->
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

I recommend reading the linked article in its' entirety. Well written and documented.
Nothing USA citizens want to hear because the USA gov't has denied this repeatedly.
Gosh, they wouldn't lie to us lowly peon taxpayers, would they?
Politicians and lies are like white and rice.
/

Who gives a **** at this point? NK is a cesspool of human misery and depravity, evil in as the world has rarely seen. And you're worried about the US Gov't's actions of '52? Boggle.
 
Re: Report: U.S. Dropped Plague-infected Fleas on North Korea in March 1952

Yes.

In February 1952, the communists launched a propaganda war against the U.S. and the UN. Soviet Ambassador Yakov Malik to the UN accused UN forces of firing bullets that spread toxic gas in Korea. North Korea and China accused the U.S. of "bombing" North Korea with infected insects. The UN was also accused firing artillery shells containing germs and for dropping snails, flies, and rats from airplanes. In March 1952, the Chinese declared that the U.S. was spreading bubonic plague, cholera, and typhus over Manchuria and North Korea.

Since large parts of Asia was starting to believe the propoganda, the International Committee of the Red Cross and the World Health Organization offered to investigate in North Korea and Manchuria. In the face of repeated refusal of access, the communist credibility with this nosedived. The communist gave up the game.

In the mean time, American POWS continued to be exploited. The communists began broadcasting speeches made by American troops, calling on the U.S. to give up. They were constantly tortured, questioned, and pushed to admit to germ/biological warfare and whatever else could be used to discredit UN efforts. They were "reeductaed," forced to denegrate themselves as criminals, make false statements, forced to spy on each other, and some even murdered. There were some Courts Martial handed out after POWs were finally released, fourteen to be exact. 38% of American POWs died in captivity. Compare that to the mere four percent in German camps during WWII and we can easily see the BS behind the propaganda and what the prisoners went through.

But in the end, despite the communists accusations and forcing some POWs to declare it so, the Red Cross and WHO were simply not permitted to even investigate.

So yes, it belongs to conspiracy.

Incidentally, the whole matter led to the creation of the Code of Conduct.

Apparently, you failed to read the article or its' attribution.
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