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Was Parkland a false flag?

Maccabee said:
Like maybe the fact that the investigation is still open? They already released tge footage of the deputy who failed to enter the building. Things like this take time. Full disclosure here but I used to believe that shootings like Sandy Hook were faked as well. It wasn't until I looked at both sides of the story and went through a police academy that I realized that local departments just simply don't have the resources to pull off a false flag, let alone cover all evidence exposing it. They're are normal people with normal interests. The only thing that separates them from regular citizens is the job they chose.
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Things like this take time? That sounds like a joke, considering what we've been told.

In case you haven't been paying attention, they knew all the answers before the day was done. They knew the shooter, they knew his parents and his history. Why do they need to investigate when they immediately knew all the answers? How would they "prejudice the jury" against the defendant when they had already prejudiced the jury with all the news reports? What on earth would it hurt showing footage of the actual shooter doing his thing. Two teachers have described it, why not pictures of what they described?

Cover-up, that's what. Another made up story with a Timothy McVeigh/James Earl Ray type fall guy, that's what. A staged event meant to achieve a political agenda, which in some peoples' book is "terrorism".
 
Thoreau72 said:
Things like this take time? That sounds like a joke, considering what we've been told.

In case you haven't been paying attention, they knew all the answers before the day was done. They knew the shooter, they knew his parents and his history. Why do they need to investigate when they immediately knew all the answers? How would they "prejudice the jury" against the defendant when they had already prejudiced the jury with all the news reports? What on earth would it hurt showing footage of the actual shooter doing his thing. Two teachers have described it, why not pictures of what they described?

Cover-up, that's what. Another made up story with a Timothy McVeigh/James Earl Ray type fall guy, that's what. A staged event meant to achieve a political agenda, which in some peoples' book is "terrorism".
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Why no response to post 98? Must make you uncomfortable.

Sum up for us how Parkland was a "staged" event? This thread seems to lack the details and supporting evidence to back up conclusion.

What is the political agenda Parkland was to obtain?
 
mike2810 said:
Why no response to post 98? Must make you uncomfortable.

Sum up for us how Parkland was a "staged" event? This thread seems to lack the details and supporting evidence to back up conclusion.

What is the political agenda Parkland was to obtain?
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Take a guess Mike--what's your guess as to the political agenda advanced?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Take a guess Mike--what's your guess as to the political agenda advanced?
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Your playing games. It was your statement. I wanted you to be specific. You seem to have problems with doing that. Guesses don't prove anything.
State what the political agenda is and back it up with evidence. Of course, you most likely won't.
 
mike2810 said:
Your playing games. It was your statement. I wanted you to be specific. You seem to have problems with doing that. Guesses don't prove anything.
State what the political agenda is and back it up with evidence. Of course, you most likely won't.
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Oh you're no fun Mike!

And you are just dull enough to not be able to recognize the most obvious political agenda of the Parkland FF. It is gun control Mike, personified by Hogg and his young minions. Visits to the state capitol on busses initially arranged by affiliates of Wasserman-Shultz a week before the actually shooting. That's local Florida scuttlebutt.

If you can't see the gun control agenda, that means you don't want to see the gun control agenda. Rick Scott signed some new legislation, and days or weeks later Jupiter authorities went to some man's house and confiscated his weapons under the new law.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Oh you're no fun Mike!

And you are just dull enough to not be able to recognize the most obvious political agenda of the Parkland FF. It is gun control Mike, personified by Hogg and his young minions. Visits to the state capitol on busses initially arranged by affiliates of Wasserman-Shultz a week before the actually shooting. That's local Florida scuttlebutt.

If you can't see the gun control agenda, that means you don't want to see the gun control agenda. Rick Scott signed some new legislation, and days or weeks later Jupiter authorities went to some man's house and confiscated his weapons under the new law.
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Bet you think that some traffic accidents are false flag operations. That way new controlling traffic laws or vehicle safety standards can be enacted.:lamo

Then you should have no problem outlining the evidence that Parkland was "staged" and a false flag operation. You claimed you have done that, but you really haven't.

Not all new laws are because of a false flag operation. Realizing the type of sites you visit and the books you read, it is not surprising you believe most mass shootings are false flag operations.
 
mike2810 said:
Bet you think that some traffic accidents are false flag operations. That way new controlling traffic laws or vehicle safety standards can be enacted.:lamo

Then you should have no problem outlining the evidence that Parkland was "staged" and a false flag operation. You claimed you have done that, but you really haven't.

Not all new laws are because of a false flag operation. Realizing the type of sites you visit and the books you read, it is not surprising you believe most mass shootings are false flag operations.
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I have done that Mike, here on this thread and elsewhere, several times. But you are in denial about so many things that it was a complete waste of key strokes, and I knew that as I typed. You do not want to understand how you might have been deceived, and that is old news, no matter the subject matter.

It is impossible to have rational public dialogue with persons in denial. You've demonstrated that again, so....thank you?
 
Thoreau72 said:
You don't know the difference between skepticism of the statements of known liars and theory, and that makes you shallow-minded, consistently. The facts don't back up the story, yet you happily embrace that story. Some lawyers are worth their weight in gold, some are not worth their weight in tin.
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You speak of skepticism but accept some pretty wild things unquestioningly.

"I'm skeptical of the government, therefore bigfoot exists" is not a valid argument.
 
Deuce said:
You speak of skepticism but accept some pretty wild things unquestioningly.

"I'm skeptical of the government, therefore bigfoot exists" is not a valid argument.
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I did not offer "I'm skeptical of the government, therefore bigfoot exists", YOU did. Why are you so desperate?

Maybe because you too have realized the complete absence of any proof whatsoever that Cruz was the shooter, and the existence of statements by the (at least 2) staff members who saw the shooter(s) that contradict the claim that Cruz was the shooter(s)?

Face the facts Deuce--today's government has a long and very well established reputation for deception, and the story does not add up.

You accuse me of accepting pretty wild things unquestioningly, and do just that yourself. Rank hypocrisy.
 
Thoreau72 said:
I did not offer "I'm skeptical of the government, therefore bigfoot exists", YOU did. Why are you so desperate?

Maybe because you too have realized the complete absence of any proof whatsoever that Cruz was the shooter, and the existence of statements by the (at least 2) staff members who saw the shooter(s) that contradict the claim that Cruz was the shooter(s)?

Face the facts Deuce--today's government has a long and very well established reputation for deception, and the story does not add up.

You accuse me of accepting pretty wild things unquestioningly, and do just that yourself. Rank hypocrisy.
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Not going to accuse you of anything T.

Prove to us that Cruz did not confess to the crime.
Prove to us that multiple "eye witnesses " claim he was the shooter are not telling the truth.

https://www.local10.com/news/parkla...grand-jury-with-evidence-against-nikolas-cruz

Nikolas Cruz: First of 15 witnesses testify about school massacre - Sun Sentinel
"Cruz, 19, has admitted arming himself with an AR-15 rifle on Valentine’s Day and gunning down 17 people and injuring 16 others at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.'

Prove to us the "government" is wrong and that Cruz is not telling the truth when he confessed.

Face the Fact T -- todays internet and some alternative news sources have a well established reputation of feeding to certain readers who believe most anything that places the "government" in a bad light. You know, never let an event go by that could not be a conspiracy
 
mike2810 said:
Not going to accuse you of anything T.

Prove to us that Cruz did not confess to the crime.
Prove to us that multiple "eye witnesses " claim he was the shooter are not telling the truth.

https://www.local10.com/news/parkla...grand-jury-with-evidence-against-nikolas-cruz

Nikolas Cruz: First of 15 witnesses testify about school massacre - Sun Sentinel
"Cruz, 19, has admitted arming himself with an AR-15 rifle on Valentine’s Day and gunning down 17 people and injuring 16 others at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.'

Prove to us the "government" is wrong and that Cruz is not telling the truth when he confessed.

Face the Fact T -- todays internet and some alternative news sources have a well established reputation of feeding to certain readers who believe most anything that places the "government" in a bad light. You know, never let an event go by that could not be a conspiracy
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Dear Michael,

This has been discussed before, I think on this thread.

People have confessed many times over many years to crimes they have not committed. Numerous articles and TV documentaries have treated this behavior. Perhaps the most notorious case was that called The Central Park Five.

They were 5 youngsters, probably about the age of Cruz, who confessed to the murder of a female jogger in Central Park years ago. They did some prison time, and eventually some conscientious and courageous adults gathered enough evidence to prove they were innocent. Lo and Behold, it turns out part of the problem was corrupt police investigators. Can you imagine Mike?--crooked cops offered up a compromised set of "facts" and a compromised jury convicted.

It happens. James Earl Ray is another example of a fall guy. History is full of such examples but you prefer to ignore such history, because you want to believe the authorities always speak the truth and never dissemble. That's your problem Mike, not mine.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Dear Michael,

This has been discussed before, I think on this thread.

People have confessed many times over many years to crimes they have not committed. Numerous articles and TV documentaries have treated this behavior. Perhaps the most notorious case was that called The Central Park Five.

They were 5 youngsters, probably about the age of Cruz, who confessed to the murder of a female jogger in Central Park years ago. They did some prison time, and eventually some conscientious and courageous adults gathered enough evidence to prove they were innocent. Lo and Behold, it turns out part of the problem was corrupt police investigators. Can you imagine Mike?--crooked cops offered up a compromised set of "facts" and a compromised jury convicted.

It happens. James Earl Ray is another example of a fall guy. History is full of such examples but you prefer to ignore such history, because you want to believe the authorities always speak the truth and never dissemble. That's your problem Mike, not mine.
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Dear T.
Your response is typical. You made a statement. I asked for you to back it up. What you provided is your opinion.
You then come back with a narrative regarding other events.

What proof do you have that Cruz confession was forced and he did not do the shooting?
What proof do you have that the witnesses are not telling the truth?

I know you will not provide the information. Yes, history is full of example of law enforcement investigation being correct. Yes, sometimes investigations and conclusions are wrong. What I am asking is for you to provide the information that proves Cruz is not the shooter and Parkland was a "false flag". If it is such a clear case, you should have no problem doing that.
 
Yes- Parkland was no doubt a false flag, just like most, if not all the shootings in recent history. Check out my blog in the signature below for some evidence of government false flags including celebrity homicides.
 
Endofdays said:
Yes- Parkland was no doubt a false flag, just like most, if not all the shootings in recent history. Check out my blog in the signature below for some evidence of government false flags including celebrity homicides.
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What proof do you have that Cruz confession was forced and he did not do the shooting?
What proof do you have that the witnesses are not telling the truth?

You have pointed towards your blog in at least two other threads. How about you just provide the links to the information that supports your position instead of promoting your blog.
 
mike2810 said:
Dear T.
Your response is typical. You made a statement. I asked for you to back it up. What you provided is your opinion.
You then come back with a narrative regarding other events.

What proof do you have that Cruz confession was forced and he did not do the shooting?
What proof do you have that the witnesses are not telling the truth?

I know you will not provide the information. Yes, history is full of example of law enforcement investigation being correct. Yes, sometimes investigations and conclusions are wrong. What I am asking is for you to provide the information that proves Cruz is not the shooter and Parkland was a "false flag". If it is such a clear case, you should have no problem doing that.
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It's tough dealing with you Mike, but I knew that.

What I've said is that I think Cruz is a fall guy, and not the shooter, for a number of reasons that fall in line. Statements in the media do not constitute proof in my world. I know they do in yours, and you and I are worlds apart.

The authorities refuse to show any footage from any of the 26 cameras inside to corroborate their claims. The mainstream media refuses to interview the school's security consultant, and there is a reason for that. At least 2 staff members who saw the shooter(s) describe them consistently, and that description does not fit Cruz.

None of this matters for you Mike, because analysis of facts and evidence is just not your thing. Like my dear sister, you believe only what you are told by some authority figure.


This is my last response to you friend.:peace
 
Thoreau72 said:
It's tough dealing with you Mike, but I knew that.

What I've said is that I think Cruz is a fall guy, and not the shooter, for a number of reasons that fall in line. Statements in the media do not constitute proof in my world. I know they do in yours, and you and I are worlds apart.

The authorities refuse to show any footage from any of the 26 cameras inside to corroborate their claims. The mainstream media refuses to interview the school's security consultant, and there is a reason for that. At least 2 staff members who saw the shooter(s) describe them consistently, and that description does not fit Cruz.

None of this matters for you Mike, because analysis of facts and evidence is just not your thing. Like my dear sister, you believe only what you are told by some authority figure.


This is my last response to you friend.:peace
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You think I am tough because I ask for you to back up your opinion. Sorry, you are not the sole holder of the "truth".

Let us look at one of your statements. "The mainstream media refuses to interview the school's security consultant, and there is a reason for that". Why not tell us what the "reason" is? Instead you leave it up to the reader to try and determine what you are stating.

Your conclusion is always the same when someone disagrees with you. Thanks for ending the conversation. It was going not going anywhere. Could it be that it is you who accepts the information from sources like Veterans Today without checking the statements they make.

Have a good one. :peace
 
Endofdays said:
Yes- Parkland was no doubt a false flag, just like most, if not all the shootings in recent history. Check out my blog in the signature below for some evidence of government false flags including celebrity homicides.
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Your blog is a fantasy devoid of proof.
 
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