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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Note how Thoreau scarpered.


    Truthers don't like having to actually explain themselves. They only feel safe when they're just asking questions.

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    Note how Thoreau scarpered.


    Truthers don't like having to actually explain themselves. They only feel safe when they're just asking questions.
    To where did I scamper, counselor?

    I'm back! Still alive.

    To where did YOU scamper with your cogent and persuasive case that Cruz was the actual shooter, counselor?

    He was the fall guy, and this was just one more false flag meant to advance gun control. The media can wash, rinse and repeat a gazillion times, but that proves nothing but the prescient comments of Goebbels.

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Notice how the truther does exactly what I described: he knows he cannot explain is retarded and delusional claims, so he uses Truther Move #1, demand that the other person prove the truther's claim wrong via semantic bull****.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    To where did I scamper, counselor?

    I'm back! Still alive.

    To where did YOU scamper with your cogent and persuasive case that Cruz was the actual shooter, counselor?

    He was the fall guy, and this was just one more false flag meant to advance gun control. The media can wash, rinse and repeat a gazillion times, but that proves nothing but the prescient comments of Goebbels.
    Truther, answer the questions:


    Notice how this kind of person never identifies the conspirators, never explains why they do what they supposedly do, never identifies what they supposedly gain from all this, never explains how unlike every other form of organized crime there are absolutely no snitches in conspiracies, not ever.



    Notice how the schtick is always the same:

    They are always stuck with the schtick of trying to bootstrap their insane theories into the realm of credibility by falsely claiming that X is the appropriate action to take, then saying that the fact that A action was taken is proof something is wrong with the picture. It's all about trying to create the illusion of a hole in the evidence to just ask questions about.

    He claims that only one specific thing should legitimately be done with the video. But he only does that so he can say that the fact that something else is being done looks suspicious. Not so. This is pure bootstrapping.

    He claims the media should only report on it in one specific way. But he only does that so that he can say that the fact that the media is doing something else looks suspicious. Not so. This is pure bootstrapping.





    Notice the core of his theory, which he never touches on:


    They* need Cruz to think he did it. Then, They need all the other students - who knew Cruz by sight - to think it was Cruz that they witnessed shooting at them, when it was really someone else (They, or possibly Them). It's really a clever plot. You see, they get Cruz and the victims thinking Cruz is guilty, then said parties tell us that Cruz is guilty, and then....

    ....then....

    ...something something profit.

    Well...who did this? Government? Why? What was gained? Why do we never find out? How can government otherwise be so utterly inept, but manage this? If not government, then who why and how? Nope, not ever gonna get an answer.





    Notice the behavior pattern:


    Point out that their theory doesn't make any sense, and they either reply or they do not reply.

    If they reply, they announce.....something. Doesn't matter, as long as the something involves a smug declaration of victory.

    Or, they just ignore the people challenging them to explain themselves. They would prefer to talk to people who also want to "just ask questions" and then bootstrap their inability to answer their own question into positive evidence of a conspiracy's existence.







    There are quite a few CTers out there, and they all follow the same model.

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    There is also literally zero evidence that this isn't a false flag.

    I am sure you remember Lyman Lemnitzer and operations Northwood:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...Memorandum.jpg
    Conspiracy theorists like to use other proven false flag operations to prove the one they have in mind. However, there should be a way to discern false flags from actual attacks. A good false flag has a goal in mind and is pulled off with minimal personnel or with people who can keep a secret.

    For example, there are some people who believe that the Reichstag Fire was pulled off by the Nazis to frame the Communists. This is somewhat believable as the event was pulled off by less than ten people and the intent would be to excuse the persecution of Communists. Now even this is debatable amongst historians.

    Another example would be Operation Northwoods. The intent was to justify a war with Cuba. The operation would be pulled off by military personnel and CIA agents, people who are generally good at keeping secrets since it's part of the job description.

    Now, let's look at the Parkland Shooting. What was the intent? Well, people who propose this say that it's to provide an excuse to extend gun control but I don't really see the need to pull off a false flag to convince the public to support gun control. And to what end? In Europe, gun control is generally stricter but it doesn't seem like governments there are oppressive. And if that's not bad enough, the people who thought of this expect the entire city to keep quiet and play along. Now maybe the police and emergency services could've kept quiet but the 17 casualties and their families and friends? Seems unlikely.

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

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    You ask that I answer questions, then pose none. In this day and age it would not be surprising to know that somebody pays "an attorney" an hourly fee when that attorney requests somebody "answer questions" and then poses none.

    I should not be surprised. A recent POTUS claimed to be a "constitutional law professor" and then spent 2 terms trashing the very same constitution he was supposedly expert on. Life is funny these days. The US proclaims its concern for human life and high moral principle, then by its actions it destroys countries and kills innocents and renders and tortures.

    The self-proclaimed paragon of virtue and democracy is a crazed military aggressor, even as self-proclaimed attorneys have thought processes so impaired they claim to be asking questions when they are just venting.

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    MP

    You ask that I answer questions, then pose none. In this day and age it would not be surprising to know that somebody pays "an attorney" an hourly fee when that attorney requests somebody "answer questions" and then poses none.

    I should not be surprised. A recent POTUS claimed to be a "constitutional law professor" and then spent 2 terms trashing the very same constitution he was supposedly expert on. Life is funny these days. The US proclaims its concern for human life and high moral principle, then by its actions it destroys countries and kills innocents and renders and tortures.

    The self-proclaimed paragon of virtue and democracy is a crazed military aggressor, even as self-proclaimed attorneys have thought processes so impaired they claim to be asking questions when they are just venting.
    "The US does bad things, therefore I can believe any made up story about the US doing a bad thing."

    The entirety of your so-called evidence for Parkland being a false flag is... conflicting eyewitness accounts. You think that's evidence of conspiracy. This actually explains a lot. See, eyewitness accounts of major or traumatic event will vary. That's just how human memory works. But if you don't understannd this, you have to somehow reconcile every account. The only way to do that is to invent something nuts.
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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post






    During times of intense crisis, our reptilian brain can kick in so it can be hard to take all these accounts as credible however something does not add up.

    Was Cruz setup because of the FISA memo?
    When conspiracy loons try to say that every mass shooting is a flag or that there were other shooters in the incidences its kind of hard to take those people seriously.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "The US does bad things, therefore I can believe any made up story about the US doing a bad thing."

    The entirety of your so-called evidence for Parkland being a false flag is... conflicting eyewitness accounts. You think that's evidence of conspiracy. This actually explains a lot. See, eyewitness accounts of major or traumatic event will vary. That's just how human memory works. But if you don't understannd this, you have to somehow reconcile every account. The only way to do that is to invent something nuts.
    The entirety of your belief in the official story is, well, because you've been told what to believe a sufficient number of times. Contradictory statements by persons there do not count in your reckoning. You like to be told what to believe by authority figures. Carry on Ace.

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Totally moronic. I think Putin is on the right track......suckers will believe any and anything

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    Re: Was Parkland a false flag?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraggle Rock View Post
    Totally moronic. I think Putin is on the right track......suckers will believe any and anything
    I didn't know Putin had said that. I thought it was WC Fields?

    But yes, suckers believe what they are told, and they are not sophisticated enough to know when they've been fooled. Somebody said it is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him that he has been fooled.

    Too damn true.

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