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Prove me wrong, we landed on the moon

Northern Light said:
I wonder if the Apollo mission had this level of materials engineering put into their craft?
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Why not read the original study materials provided at the NASA website?
Go ahead, tell me that NASA is in on a conspiracy, make me laugh.
 
Northern Light said:
It doesn't matter. Everything I've read said that without radiation shielding, they would've received their lifetime dose of radiation exposure within 16 hours of being away from Earth's atmosphere, equivalent to 100,000 x-rays.


I'm not saying the Moon landing ever happened I just don't understand how the astronauts are not all dying of cancer.
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You’ve been reading nonsense. They were in the inner van allen belts for like four minutes and aluminum hulls do provide some protection.
 
The major hurdle to any moon landing CT theory is accounting for the Russians (and other independent observers.)

These events were always tied in with the Cold War, and the Russians were very much watching. I'd be shocked if they didn't actively track it as closely as they could, which would be pretty well, as there aren't many good hiding spots in the solar system. They would have detected the launch, seen the object leave orbit, and travel some distance, likely lit it up with radar from a satellite, and would have been able to use radio triangulation/delay to track it's location.

The only way they wouldn't bust a hoax wide open (with verifiable data NASA wouldn't be in a position to counter) would be if they were in on it, which would create a conjoined "The Cold War was a hoax!" CT that I don't seem to hear about a lot. Seems like that would be the larger issue.
 
WillyPete said:
The major hurdle to any moon landing CT theory is accounting for the Russians (and other independent observers.)

These events were always tied in with the Cold War, and the Russians were very much watching. I'd be shocked if they didn't actively track it as closely as they could, which would be pretty well, as there aren't many good hiding spots in the solar system. They would have detected the launch, seen the object leave orbit, and travel some distance, likely lit it up with radar from a satellite, and would have been able to use radio triangulation/delay to track it's location.

The only way they wouldn't bust a hoax wide open (with verifiable data NASA wouldn't be in a position to counter) would be if they were in on it, which would create a conjoined "The Cold War was a hoax!" CT that I don't seem to hear about a lot. Seems like that would be the larger issue.
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I've put that point to Moon hoax fans before. They either ignore it or say that the Russians were in on it!
 
zyzygy said:
I've put that point to Moon hoax fans before. They either ignore it or say that the Russians were in on it!
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I suppose if you can convince yourself everything is a grand conspiracy, at least there must be some really really clever humans at the top that are actually controlling things on this planet (and perchance beyond!)

Special sort of optimism.
 
WillyPete said:
I suppose if you can convince yourself everything is a grand conspiracy, at least there must be some really really clever humans at the top that are actually controlling things on this planet (and perchance beyond!)

Special sort of optimism.
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If there really are a bunch of humans controlling everything then I have a 10 year old grandson who could do a better job.
 
My dad built the Apollo Command ship (with a little help from his friends), and it was as high science for its time as could be. Everybody who knew him said he was the smartest person they ever met.

I put down the word 'perturb' on Scrabble and thought I did well. He added ation to the end of it to make 'perturbation,' as in a deviation to a spacecraft in a lunar orbit caused by a large mascon (short for 'mass concentration' - i.e. a region of the moon's crust that contains a large gravitational anomaly) on the moon. That was the example he gave me.

So yeah, the moon landings were real.
 
Belieth said:
shielding and aluminium? yeah right!
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Look it up. The aluminum shell of the capsule provided effective shielding from the specific type of radiation the Van Allen belt is made of.
 
It makes me vomit knowing there are still people alive that believe we never did it. You need collars and leashes.
 
rhinefire said:
It makes me vomit knowing there are still people alive that believe we never did it. You need collars and leashes.
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What is scary, is most of them can vote.
 
rhinefire said:
It makes me vomit knowing there are still people alive that believe we never did it. You need collars and leashes.
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vomit? why? Are you se dependent on someone else's thoughts?
 
zyzygy said:
I've put that point to Moon hoax fans before. They either ignore it or say that the Russians were in on it!
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no one is ignoring that as far as I know. The explanation is very simple. The Russians faked their missions too, so of course they won't open the lid! it would only jeopardize their own program!

And another reason might be wheat! The US has sold tons of wheed to the Russians in teturn for silence.

so, really no problem there then.
 
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DasTrev said:
To get this started I want someone to comment first so I can either debunk their argument or fail to debunk it. I don't exactly know which point to start on as there are so many. Humans landed on the moon, prove me wrong.

I will do my research and try to link all sources of my information. I suggest any opposing arguments should do so as well.
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I don't know if this has been said, but back in the days when the moon landing was supposed to have happened pictures were taken. If you look at the shadows of the pictures, you'll notice they are straight lines like how they would look because of the location of the sun. It would have been impossible with the technology back then to create such a shadow as it's still challenging to do today.

I mean a straight shadow taken by a camera in a controlled area on Earth would be impossible(or cost like 500 trillion dollars), you'd need to CGI the crap outa that!
 
If you believe the moon landing was a fake, then you have to accept President Kennedy was killed by the government of the United States of America. Kennedy was unsure of winning the 1964 presidential election but that was before Goldwater got into the race in 1964. If Kennedy left office on January 20, 1969, the moon landing would be less developed and maybe even cancelled by the next president. Only after he was killed in 1963, the project became more important to the American population. It was a boom time (1964 - 1969) for NASA dealing with the project.

Second, there was billions of dollars being spent and millions of dollars would have to be spent on very important people to keep the silence. There is a problem with that fact, it deals with the federal income tax being faked. Millions of dollars would be in banks, and not declared on federal income taxes. Thousands of people filing a fake income tax and nobody being discovered as doing a crime. That's very interesting, because your adding more people to accept a crime and performing more crimes.

I do not believe Kennedy was killed to make a fake mission to the moon.
 
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