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Why the silence on Vegas?

Maybe it is not clear, but that is C&Ped from the link. My personal thoughts? I have serious doubts this guy acted alone. The more they maintain silence on this, the questions people will have. Like the timelines not matching up.

I think it goes much deeper that that. I think some one on the left who want to destroy our gun rights helped the shooter out at the very least....
 
Maybe it is not clear, but that is C&Ped from the link. My personal thoughts? I have serious doubts this guy acted alone. The more they maintain silence on this, the questions people will have. Like the timelines not matching up.

Well, they did released the search warrent affidavit recently explaining what they found and such.
 
I think it goes much deeper that that. I think some one on the left who want to destroy our gun rights helped the shooter out at the very least....



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He broke out 2 hurrican proof windows rated at 800 pounds...with a hammer. Start there. He literally had to bash the opening out with the hammer. We arent talking about windows that shatter...we are talking about windows that had to be broken out requiring multiple swings from the hammer (the hammer was a short handled sledge...looks to be a 5 pound sledge). It would have taken time, effort, made a hell of a racket...AND...the windows were about 30 feet apart. So what...no one on the ground felt anything? Heard anything? No one in the hotel heard anything?

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Im pretty they did heard the racket and probably did complained to the hotel. Why it took so long for hotel to respond is another story. Either way what's your alternative to the story?
 
That is one possibility. The media blackout gives it extra credibility.

How so?
If the media wanted to destroy our gun rights, wouldn't this story still be front page news?
 
Not if it is revealed as Islamic backed or false flag (two other possibilitys)

No evidence for either, at this point.
I think if it was Islamic, Trump would have babbled about it by now.
I think if it was a false flag, Alex Jones would have babbled about it by now.
On the other hand, Alex thinks EVERYTHING is a false flag.
 
No evidence for either, at this point.
I think if it was Islamic, Trump would have babbled about it by now.
I think if it was a false flag, Alex Jones would have babbled about it by now.
On the other hand, Alex thinks EVERYTHING is a false flag.

Well, as I already said, the silence leaves the door of speculation wide open. The link in the OP addresses much of that. (save the Alex thing) I don't pay him much mind. No one should.
 
Well, as I already said, the silence leaves the door of speculation wide open.
I dunno, Bob. What would the authorities need to say that would satisfy you and the guy in your OP?

The link in the OP addresses much of that. (save the Alex thing) I don't pay him much mind. No one should.
Very good.
 
I dunno, Bob. What would the authorities need to say that would satisfy you and the guy in your OP?


Very good.

Do you not agree that for (is it?) the largest massing shooting in the US it has been eerily quite? At least with Orlando, the pieces added up.

The more pieces released on this guy, the more it looks like a lot of different puzzles.
 
Im pretty they did heard the racket and probably did complained to the hotel. Why it took so long for hotel to respond is another story. Either way what's your alternative to the story?
I dont speculate, other than to say things dont add up. Why would you put bump fire stocks on rifles with bipods? Why would you have notes calculating wind and distance when all you are doing is spraying and praying. Hell, for that matter, why have scopes at all, since the shooter wasnt firing single rounds. How did the body end up where it did...physically impossible for it to have fallen and landed the way it did. How did he shoot himself in the head, fall backwards, bounce, yet still have a rifle upright on a bipod fully over your shin and ankles. As for the tactical questions...forget about that...the tactical questions would drive you crazy. What happened to the hard drives on the computers? And why did the Vegas police announce first that they found child porn on his computer...the computer that didnt have a had drive. Why was the timeline so screwed up? Why did the story regarding the hotel security guard keep changing? A million more. And they may all have an explanation.

But there hasnt been one forthcoming.
 
:lol: yeah. Mine is to be amused.

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Do you not agree that for (is it?) the largest massing shooting in the US it has been eerily quite? At least with Orlando, the pieces added up.

The more pieces released on this guy, the more it looks like a lot of different puzzles.

You have no idea how vegas works
 
This is certainly the biggest media blackout of my lifetime.

And that is a very large clue that the authorities are hiding something. Probably hiding many facts that are fatal to the official story.
 
Do you not agree that for (is it?) the largest massing shooting in the US it has been eerily quite? At least with Orlando, the pieces added up.

The more pieces released on this guy, the more it looks like a lot of different puzzles.

In Orlando, the pieces that added up show a staged event. Too many play actors, including men in uniform.
 
Almost 6 months later and we still know as much as we did the day after. Before you just attack the source and dismiss it, I challenge you to read it with an open mind as many valid questions are asked.

WAYNE ALLYN ROOT=> The Vegas Massacre Exposé: What Really Happened?

MORE AT THE LINK

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So here are my “Top 20” nagging questions, inconsistencies and theories about the Vegas Massacre…
#1) RAMBO.
How did an overweight, out of shape, 60-year old, anonymous guy (on no one’s radar) with no military training and no military or law enforcement history become Rambo overnight? He carried out this plot with no help? Got hundreds of pounds of weapons to his room? He broke open a hurricane-strength 800- pound window? Set up sniper-type guns? Pulled off worst mass shooting in America’s history with no training, no help? Even though the one over-riding theme of every survivor/witness I’ve spoken to, or heard from is…they saw or heard multiple shooters. Yet the FBI and Vegas police immediately discounted this theory. Why?

Despite the fact you seem so interested in this case you know so little about it. There is no blackout the FBI has said exactly when they will release the report

The chief of the FBI’s Las Vegas office said he expects the agency to release a report on the Oct. 1 massacre before the tragedy’s first anniversary.

“Now that’s a long time for some people, but speaking for the FBI, that’s light speed, all right?” Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse said.

If you are actually interested in the truth maybe you should wait and read it before going tin foil crazy
 
Despite the fact you seem so interested in this case you know so little about it. There is no blackout the FBI has said exactly when they will release the report



If you are actually interested in the truth maybe you should wait and read it before going tin foil crazy

I posted an article, not my official position. My opinion? To many questions, not enough answers. If you call that foil cap, oh well.
 
I dont speculate, other than to say things dont add up. Why would you put bump fire stocks on rifles with bipods? Why would you have notes calculating wind and distance when all you are doing is spraying and praying. Hell, for that matter, why have scopes at all, since the shooter wasnt firing single rounds.
Maybe the fact that he isn't a combat expert contributed to his choice of accessories. After all, don't we mock mall ninjas that put all sorts of junk on their rifles when they don't know what half the stuff they put on are, much less know how to implement them in a useful manner.
How did the body end up where it did...physically impossible for it to have fallen and landed the way it did. How did he shoot himself in the head, fall backwards, bounce, yet still have a rifle upright on a bipod fully over your shin and ankles.
I'm having a hard time picturing what you're trying to describe. As for the bipod thing, maybe when he shot himself the rifle wasn't on a stable platform and slid off when he fell. There's also the fact that the SWAT team made entry and since they aren't really that concerned about preserving evidence while clearing the rest of the room, moved either the body of gun in their clearing process.
As for the tactical questions...forget about that...the tactical questions would drive you crazy. What happened to the hard drives on the computers? And why did the Vegas police announce first that they found child porn on his computer...the computer that didnt have a had drive. Why was the timeline so screwed up? Why did the story regarding the hotel security guard keep changing? A million more. And they may all have an explanation.

Because hardly any investigation is a clean cut case. You're going to have discrepancies in such a huge event like this.
But there hasnt been one forthcoming.

See above.
 
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