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Rod Rosenstein is a Zionist Traitor [W:78]

Shh! Nobody tell him the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was Soviet Union propaganda!
 
We may. I don't know.

I did what you suggested and looked at the top 5 sites, 6 if include reddit, which I don't because it's largely a cesspool of stupidity. All look to be cut-and-paste jobs of the same data without attribution or any supporting evidence. In short it looks to be a bunch of people who quoted a single source that for all we know was come up with by some guy who pasted a bunch of jewish sounding names on a dartboard, threw darts and then and wrote down the ones he hit.

That really isn't creditable in my book.


If you were genuinely interested in the truth, you would spend more than a few minutes looking at 5 - 6 sites but I suspect that you are quite satisfied to have Israelis in US Government.
I don't think that it's a coincidence that America allows Israeli citizens to be US Congressmen AND has the most pro Israel Foreign Policy in the world to the point that it is detrimental to both countries.
 
The specific myth that Jewish American politicians also have Israeli citizenship is a distortion of Israel's "right to return," a 1990 law that allows Jews living abroad to immigrate to the country. That's, of course, not the same thing as having Israeli citizenship, but Vick can see where it gets contorted in the bowls of the Internet.
But that's a myth, too, Vick said. People will keep spinning American Jewish leaders' alliances for as long as they have points to prove about Israel. It's human nature.

"We're all looking for validation of whatever we believe, and that includes people in the extremist community as well," he said. "So they latch onto something that they perceive to be a truth even though there's a flaw in the logic and run with it."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-israeli-citizenship/?utm_term=.ccb8cac45b00
 
If you were genuinely interested in the truth, you would spend more than a few minutes looking at 5 - 6 sites but I suspect that you are quite satisfied to have Israelis in US Government.
I don't think that it's a coincidence that America allows Israeli citizens to be US Congressmen AND has the most pro Israel Foreign Policy in the world to the point that it is detrimental to both countries.

You’ve made the claim so it’s on you to provide the evidence. And no saying “Google X” doesn’t constitute evidence. I did so anyway and found unsourced hearsay and have no reason whatsoever to believe that if I went further down the list of google results that I’d find anything different.

On the other hand I have provided you with information that can be sourced that noted that Congressmen are not required to list dual citizenship. That bit of information means that actually compiling a list of dual citizens in Congress is going to be very difficult unless the Congressman made that information public themselves - or at least told someone. Since being a secret Israeli double agent would require keeping your dual citizenship and divided loyalties secret I’m having a hard time seeing Israeli citizen Congressmen letting the cat out of the bag.
 
All I'm asking for is credible back up for assertions. This seems to be beyond your capabilities.

One example: AIPAC has recently sponsored legislation that criminalizes or otherwise penalizes any person who joins or assists the BDS movement against Israel. This is a worldwide phenomenon, not just here in the US.

Recently the NZ singer Lorde has been sued by Israeli interests because she cancelled a concert in Tel Aviv as part of the BDS movement.
 
One example: AIPAC has recently sponsored legislation that criminalizes or otherwise penalizes any person who joins or assists the BDS movement against Israel. This is a worldwide phenomenon, not just here in the US.

Recently the NZ singer Lorde has been sued by Israeli interests because she cancelled a concert in Tel Aviv as part of the BDS movement.

How is this is relevant to the possible dual citizenship of Rosenstein and Jewish members of Congress.
 
How is this is relevant to the possible dual citizenship of Rosenstein and Jewish members of Congress.

Irrelevant. If I hired someone to perform a concert and they cancelled I would sue them.
 
THAT is the $64,000 question. That is the dilemma for all dual citizens holding high office--which country do you stand by and defend? Which of your dual countries do you betray?
Is it your position that Jews are dual citizens or that Mr. Rosenstein individually is a dual citizen?
 
If I'm not mistaken, Israel currently has a "Nationality Law" (aka Loyalty Law) that prohibits individuals with dual citizenship from being Knesset members. In order to have Israeli citizenship one has to swear to be loyal to Israel first.

Since the 40 members of the US Senate & and House(1) now have Israeli citizenship, they have sworn to be loyal to Israel first.
Unfortunately, not only US Senators & Congressmen are policy makers whose first loyalty it to Israel.(2)

Because so many of America's politicians & policy makers are Zionist "Israel Firsters" I think that it is unlikely that we will see any essentially necessary initiative to
expel these ethically compromised individuals from office to make way for policy makers whose loyalty is to America's best interest first.



(1) "U.S. SENATORS & CONGRESSMEN WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIP WITH ISRAEL"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/dual-citizens-israel-congress.jpg


(2) "Members in US politics who hold dual US/Israeli citizenship: (2013)"
Members in US politics who hold dual US/Israeli citizenship: – InvestmentWatch
Can you show me where it says on Barbara Boxer's website, or Eliot Engel's website, or any mainstream source referencing them that they are dual citizens?
 
I say all Jews are JEWS first and America's or what not 2nd, they are all traitors and should be dealt with accordingly.

While we're at it, let's include Muslims into the mix. Only Christians are sacred and profess loyalty to the correct nation, THE USofA!

Now, I have a bridge to sell you.

You might need to change your name for that one to work.
 
Of course, the jooz only make up 3% of the world's population, but they still manage to control everything.
Try more like 0.19% There are about 14,410,700 Jewish people in the world (link to source), as against a world population of about 7,500,000,000 in that same year (link to source).

Geez, these lists are really outdated--including the "updated" one.
Feingold, Boxer, Levin and now Franken are gone from the Senate.
Weiner, Frank, Giffords, Grayson, Harman are gone from the House.
Which ones are actually dual citizens?
 
Repeated administrations have almost unconditionally aided and abetted innumerable Israeli War Crimes & violations of International Law and even fought wars for Israel(1) that have not been in America's best interest so someone in US Government is responsible for this counterproductive "Israel First" US Mid East Foreign Policy.
Israel is about the only stable country in that part of the world. If you loved the bloodshed of trying to re-enter the European continent via Normandy, you'd love trying to gain entry to the Middle East via an amphibious invasion. If we need to project force into that part of the world Israel is a far stronger beachhead than was Normandy. And a lot fewer casualties involved in using it.
 
Try more like 0.19% There are about 14,410,700 Jewish people in the world (link to source), as against a world population of about 7,500,000,000 in that same year (link to source).

Holy cow.....the cabal is even more powerful than I thought.
I'm thinking of lying about my ethnicity so I can get in on the whole world domination scheme.
I think I can pull this off.
People are always telling me that I look Jewish.;)

Which ones are actually dual citizens?

I dunno.
B'Smith was asked that very question, but he seems to be unresponsive.
He's probably been interred in a gulag by now.
 
Israel is about the only stable country in that part of the world. If you loved the bloodshed of trying to re-enter the European continent via Normandy, you'd love trying to gain entry to the Middle East via an amphibious invasion. If we need to project force into that part of the world Israel is a far stronger beachhead than was Normandy. And a lot fewer casualties involved in using it.
I replied to my own post because of an intervening post hit before I got a chance to edit.

A little history lesson. On June 6, 1944, in order to bring WW II to an end, American, British and Canadian forces landed on three or four beaches in Normandy. The death toll and casualty level was immense. That beachhead was absolutely necessary to winning the war conventionally. In early August 1945, motivated at least in part by the carnage at Normandy, the U.S. dropped a pair of atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, ending the war in Asia. In 1947-8 the U.S., in a muddy and incoherent manner supported Israeli independence.

The Middle East has for millennia been a war-torn and contested area. If the U.S. or other Western countries have to invade conventionally wouldn't a stable, reliable and allied beachhead be a big help?

The other problem that the West had in May 1945 forward was hundreds of thousands of European Jews, many barely surviving, in displaced persons camps. The Germans and Poles that had taken over/stolen their homes and businesses weren't going to be readmitted. So where were they going to go?

The Zionist activity early in the century actually brought in Arabs who wanted to work in a newly fertile and inhabitable land. The only trouble from the world's point of view is that the Jews did it. The world has had a tortured relationship with the Jewish people and faith since the days of the Pharaohs of Egypt. See David Nirenberg’s excellent book, Anti-Judaism: The Western Tradition (link), reviewed here in Tablet Magazine (link) and here in the New Republic (link), about this relationship. He explains that much of the hatred was directed at theoretical Jews by people who had never met a real one.

But I digress. Israel is both beneficial and necessary.
 
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One example: AIPAC has recently sponsored legislation that criminalizes or otherwise penalizes any person who joins or assists the BDS movement against Israel. This is a worldwide phenomenon, not just here in the US.

Recently the NZ singer Lorde has been sued by Israeli interests because she cancelled a concert in Tel Aviv as part of the BDS movement.
I am a proud Jew and I am totally against legislation that makes BDS involvement a crime. I believe in the free marketplace of ideas. Fringe thinking such as is on display in this thread, for example, would be ridiculed for the farce that it is.
 
Israel is about the only stable country in that part of the world. If you loved the bloodshed of trying to re-enter the European continent via Normandy, you'd love trying to gain entry to the Middle East via an amphibious invasion. If we need to project force into that part of the world Israel is a far stronger beachhead than was Normandy. And a lot fewer casualties involved in using it.


With the advent of ICBMs etc, I seriously doubt that WW3 will be about establishing beachheads.
I would strongly support good relations between the US & an ethical, Peace seeking Israeli government however the US Government's near unconditional support of any and every Israeli War Crime & violation of International Law & Human Rights agreement has been seriously detrimental to US interests in ways too numerous to list here.
Briefly put, there's no place in US Government for traitorous individuals whose first loyalty is to any country other than the US.
Regrettably, there are numerous US policy makers who have "special" agreements & commitments to the Israeli government(1), (2)

Meanwhile, Iran is another stable country in the region and may have continued to have a forward thinking democratic government if not for the overthrowing of Iran's democratically elected PM Mosaddegh by the US & UK.
In spite of Rouhani's repeated overtures(3) to improve US - Iranian relations, America's best interests are thwarted by the "Israel First" element that infects US Government.




(1) "US Congress Forced To Pledge Allegiance To Israel"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL6-5xpOimk


(2) "Israel, the US Congress and treason"
Israel, the US Congress and treason | Scoop News


(3) "Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/


EXCERPT "Is there a case for considering treason charges against those members of the US Congress whose unconditional support for Israel right or wrong drives policy in a direction that is not in America’s own best interests and, more to the point, endangers those interests?"CONTINUED
 
Can you show me where it says on Barbara Boxer's website, or Eliot Engel's website, or any mainstream source referencing them that they are dual citizens?


I feel sure that any dual Israeli-American citizen in political office would make every effort to hide their dual citizenship but also feel that any determined journalist could discover the citizenships of political figures through former staff members, embassy officials, travel records, the Freedom of Information Act & any number of ways.
Being a dual citizen, by itself, does not mean that one is guilty of treason however a lengthy voting record against US interests in favor of Israel would.
 
Links to proof please.

How about the following:


“The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion”
The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion
EXCERPT “While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3
billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government,
this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of
dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the
surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S.
support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3
trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars. “CONTINUED


"US “Aid” to Israel is Illegal"
Just a moment...
EXCERPT "The untold billions of dollars of “aid” provided to Israel by America since 1976 has been illegal in terms of the US’s own law, which forbids aid to any nuclear-armed nation which is not a signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPF).
Sections 101 and 102 of the US’s Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (AECA) contains the specific provisions, and Israel has refused to sign the NPF despite being in possession of around eighty nuclear weapons.
The law banning aid to any nuclear-armed country which is not a signatory to the NPF came about in 1976, when the so-called “Symington Amendment” was passed by Congress."CONTINUED
 
How about the following:


“The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion”
The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion
EXCERPT “While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3
billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government,
this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of
dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the
surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S.
support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3
trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars. “CONTINUED


"US “Aid” to Israel is Illegal"
Just a moment...
EXCERPT "The untold billions of dollars of “aid” provided to Israel by America since 1976 has been illegal in terms of the US’s own law, which forbids aid to any nuclear-armed nation which is not a signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPF).
Sections 101 and 102 of the US’s Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (AECA) contains the specific provisions, and Israel has refused to sign the NPF despite being in possession of around eighty nuclear weapons.
The law banning aid to any nuclear-armed country which is not a signatory to the NPF came about in 1976, when the so-called “Symington Amendment” was passed by Congress."CONTINUED
Crank sites.
 
How about the following:


“The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion”
The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion
EXCERPT “While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3
billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government,
this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of
dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the
surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S.
support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3
trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars. “CONTINUED


"US “Aid” to Israel is Illegal"
Just a moment...
EXCERPT "The untold billions of dollars of “aid” provided to Israel by America since 1976 has been illegal in terms of the US’s own law, which forbids aid to any nuclear-armed nation which is not a signatory to the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPF).
Sections 101 and 102 of the US’s Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (AECA) contains the specific provisions, and Israel has refused to sign the NPF despite being in possession of around eighty nuclear weapons.
The law banning aid to any nuclear-armed country which is not a signatory to the NPF came about in 1976, when the so-called “Symington Amendment” was passed by Congress."CONTINUED

What a surprise, the Hitler fanboy is upset we support Israel.
 
With the advent of ICBMs etc, I seriously doubt that WW3 will be about establishing beachheads.
The intervention would not likely be in a WW III; it would be in one of the many human barbecues/humanitarian disasters that seem to be all too common in that part of the world.
I would strongly support good relations between the US & an ethical, Peace seeking Israeli government however the US Government's near unconditional support of any and every Israeli War Crime & violation of International Law & Human Rights agreement has been seriously detrimental to US interests in ways too numerous to list here.
You have jumped the shark here. Israel defends itself. When the "Palestinians" place missile launchers on top of hospitals and schools and otherwise use human shields Israel cannot afford to be helpless.
Briefly put, there's no place in US Government for traitorous individuals whose first loyalty is to any country other than the US. Regrettably, there are numerous US policy makers who have "special" agreements & commitments to the Israeli government(1), (2)
You are moving into pure anti-Jewish vitriol.
Meanwhile, Iran is another stable country in the region and may have continued to have a forward thinking democratic government if not for the overthrowing of Iran's democratically elected PM Mosaddegh by the US & UK.
Expropriation of private property was, in those days, casis belli. I believe it should still be. The belief that Mossadegh would have proven a pluralist democrat is pure speculation. Very unlikely in that part of the world. Gamal Abdel Nasser would have been a far more likely model.
In spite of Rouhani's repeated overtures(3) to improve US - Iranian relations, America's best interests are thwarted by the "Israel First" element that infects US Government.
The same Rouhani that has gotten back over 116 billion from frozen assets and cannot manage earthquake recovery? You must be kidding.

I have read your posts today for the first time. I am beginning to think you have some dislike of Jews.
I feel sure that any dual Israeli-American citizen in political office would make every effort to hide their dual citizenship but also feel that any determined journalist could discover the citizenships of political figures through former staff members, embassy officials, travel records, the Freedom of Information Act & any number of ways.
Being a dual citizen, by itself, does not mean that one is guilty of treason however a lengthy voting record against US interests in favor of Israel would.
I do not believe that more than one or two on that list holds Israeli citizenship. I believe that what you are doing is assuming that any person with a Jewish last name is also an Israeli citizen.
 
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How is this is relevant to the possible dual citizenship of Rosenstein and Jewish members of Congress.

Dual citizens in high office may often face a conundrum--deciding which oath takes precedence, which citizenship takes precedence, loyalty to which country takes precedence.
 
Is it your position that Jews are dual citizens or that Mr. Rosenstein individually is a dual citizen?

Neither of those is my position. I know that some jewish individuals in government are dual citizens, but I do not have a current list of those. I have no opinion, no knowledge of Rosenstein's status in that regard.
 
The intervention would not likely be in a WW III; it would be in one of the many human barbecues/humanitarian disasters that seem to be all too common in that part of the world.
You have jumped the shark here. Israel defends itself. When the "Palestinians" place missile launchers on top of hospitals and schools and otherwise use human shields Israel cannot afford to be helpless.You are moving into pure anti-Jewish vitriol. Expropriation of private property was, in those days, casis belli. I believe it should still be. The belief that Mossadegh would have proven a pluralist democrat is pure speculation. Very unlikely in that part of the world. Gamal Abdel Nasser would have been a far more likely model.The same Rouhani that has gotten back over 116 billion from frozen assets and cannot manage earthquake recovery? You must be kidding.

I have read your posts today for the first time. I am beginning to think you have some dislike of Jews.I do not believe that more than one or two on that list holds Israeli citizenship. I believe that what you are doing is assuming that any person with a Jewish last name is also an Israeli citizen.


This thread is not about Israel's ruthless & criminal Occupation
I think you are obliquely accusing me of anti Semitism by deliberately confusing my disdain for traitorous "Israel Firsters" & right wing Zionist lobbies who drive America's fatally flawed Mid East Policy with the many decent & ethical Jews throughout the U.S. who share my beliefs.(1), (2).

Additionally, this thread is not about the everyday American Jews who have contributed so much to the US.
While your loyalty is apparently to Israel, its Right Wing extremists & their criminal agenda, my first loyalty is to the US & America's best interests in the volatile Mid East.
America's best interests cannot be served while Zionist lobbies wield so much influence to the point can effectively drive America to wars(3) that have proven to be severely costly to America in blood & resources.

In 1973, I spent 10 - 11 months traveling throughout the Islamic Mid East to better understand the dynamics of America's Mid East imbroglio. In spite of being & looking very American, I was treated with warm hospitality & overwhelming generosity throughout Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey etc by my many Muslim hosts. I did not have a single hostile encounter the entire time I was there but was prevented from going into Israel because of the " '73 War".
My Muslim hosts, their friends & families etc admired America and were very curious about all things American; American cars, movies, space program, life in America etc
The 2 questions I was most frequently asked were:
1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
2. "Why does America help Israel kill Palestinians & drive them from their homes?"
I tried to explain the toxic influence on Americans by America's blatantly pro Israel MSM(4) & the domination of US Mid East Policy by Zionist lobbies but the Muslims couldn't understand how a people as advanced as Americans could be so easily duped & manipulated nor can I.


(1) "Jews Protest AIPAC Conference, Slam Support for Israel"
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/n...ce-Slam-Support-for-Israel-20170326-0028.html
EXCERPT "Jewish protesters marched Sunday outside the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, APICAC, conference in Washington as they slammed the lobbying firm for supporting policies of the right-wing Israeli government."CONTINUED


(2) "Hundreds of Young U.S. Jews Protest Outside AIPAC Against Occupation"
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.779615
EXCERPT "This is the first time in AIPAC's decades-long history that such a protest, taking place right across the street from the influential lobby's annual conference, has attracted such a large – and mostly Jewish – crowd."CONTINUED


(3) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


(4) “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias | The Japan Times
 
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