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The Great Deception [W:95]

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OlNate said:
Do you?
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Not really. There are no prophets. Not one biblical prophecy or a prophecy based on the bible has ever panned out. I was interested in the opinion of believers about failed prophecies and false prophets. The bible is very clear on the subject. Do you have an opinion? If your god exists does he punish false prophets?
 
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OlNate said:
First of all, I didn't jump all over anyone. If that's what you think happened, you should see me when I'm actually jumping all over someone.
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You're kidding right? You're quote below can't be construed as "jumping all over someone"? Whatever.

OlNate said:
FFS, Zyz, why do you nut so hard with the whole being an obnoxious atheist thing? It's off topic to the OP, if it doesn't interest you, have fun in other threads, bud... Your constant trolling is making yourself look a little insecure in your life decisions. Go figure it all out on your own time, you're coming across like an asshole, not like the intellectual you seem to have convinced yourself you are on the subject.
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OlNate said:
If you look at zyzygy's posts, they are almost exclusively attempts to poke holes in, or ridicule, the faith of others,
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In this thread, yes, I agree.

OlNate said:
which is too bad, because he seems like a smart fellow, and I often respect his point of view on other topics.
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Ok..

OlNate said:
At any rate, if you're not like that, then this isn't about or to you. Why you're trying to insert yourself here isn't clear to me.
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You're chastising me for expressing an opinion or making a comment about something that wasn't directed at me in particular, but it was ok for you to make comments and insert yourself into zyzygy's responses to people other than yourself? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? I mean, were his responses about you?

OlNate said:
Seems like you really want a brawl with me, or at least think you do, but I'm not sure why.
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Brawl? I'm responding to comments made by you in a public forum. How is this considered wanting to brawl? You implied you call out bigotry and disdain for other people's belief when you see it yet did you not? Yet you only focused on zyzygy's posts. I wanted to know why you didn't call out John for his bigotry and disdain. How is that wanting to brawl with you?
 
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Hmmmmm, looks like other believers in Jesus are being harassed because of something I thought would happen at a particular time didn't happen at that time.

For the sake of you that didn't keep up with the pertinent thread, about a month or so ago I became convinced NYCity would be nuked. I am still confident NYCity will be nuked.

About a week before New Years day I came to believe NYCity would be nuked on New Years Day. I was not positive about the date, but I thought that was the date.

On the other thread I was asked something like "what will you say if NYCity is not nuked on New Years Eve ?" I replied "if NYCity is not nuked on New Year Eve then I will admit NYCity was not nuked on New Years Eve"

Obviously NYCity was not nuked on New Years Eve. Well, I did admit my error of TIMING.

NO OTHER Christian I know of ever expressed any agreement with me regarding my prediction (prophecy if you will) that NYCity will be nuked ... much less about the timing.

So it is hardly fair or reasonable to bash Christians in general for my timing error that they knew nothing of.


In addition to the New York City nuking prediction, I have conveyed a particular prophecy regarding JFK and Kissinger for over 40 years.

NO OTHER Christian I know of agrees with me about all of this particular prophecy.

(one man wrote a book which claims JFK is the Beast. I tried to get a letter to him through the publisher years ago and never heard back from him)

Due to my prediction/prophecy regarding JFK, I've been called a "false prophet" since I began distribution of my prophecy.... over 40 years ago.

And .... about 2 years ago I came to believe (and state on my FB home pages ... John Prewett ... and ...John W Prewett)
that Jesus will bring back into this world (to my home, btw) Prince Mahidol and his two sons (kings Bhumibol and Ananda) and will make Thailand his 'burning bush' nation.

Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) NO OTHER Christian that I know of shares my belief about Jesus returning these 3 now departed Thai Royals.

So it would be unfair to bash Christians for this also.

Well, just trying to set the record straight for the benefit of those being bashed for my predictions that they knew nothing of ... and most likely don't agree with.
 
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John Prewett said:
Hmmmmm, looks like other believers in Jesus are being harassed because of something I thought would happen at a particular time didn't happen at that time.

For the sake of you that didn't keep up with the pertinent thread, about a month or so ago I became convinced NYCity would be nuked. I am still confident NYCity will be nuked.

About a week before New Years day I came to believe NYCity would be nuked on New Years Day. I was not positive about the date, but I thought that was the date.

On the other thread I was asked something like "what will you say if NYCity is not nuked on New Years Eve ?" I replied "if NYCity is not nuked on New Year Eve then I will admit NYCity was not nuked on New Years Eve"

Obviously NYCity was not nuked on New Years Eve. Well, I did admit my error of TIMING.

NO OTHER Christian I know of ever expressed any agreement with me regarding my prediction (prophecy if you will) that NYCity will be nuked ... much less about the timing.

So it is hardly fair or reasonable to bash Christians in general for my timing error that they knew nothing of.


In addition to the New York City nuking prediction, I have conveyed a particular prophecy regarding JFK and Kissinger for over 40 years.

NO OTHER Christian I know of agrees with me about all of this particular prophecy.

(one man wrote a book which claims JFK is the Beast. I tried to get a letter to him through the publisher years ago and never heard back from him)

Due to my prediction/prophecy regarding JFK, I've been called a "false prophet" since I began distribution of my prophecy.... over 40 years ago.

And .... about 2 years ago I came to believe (and state on my FB home pages ... John Prewett ... and ...John W Prewett)
that Jesus will bring back into this world (to my home, btw) Prince Mahidol and his two sons (kings Bhumibol and Ananda) and will make Thailand his 'burning bush' nation.

Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) NO OTHER Christian that I know of shares my belief about Jesus returning these 3 now departed Thai Royals.

So it would be unfair to bash Christians for this also.

Well, just trying to set the record straight for the benefit of those being bashed for my predictions that they knew nothing of ... and most likely don't agree with.
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Gibberish.
 
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gamolon said:
Asking someone to elaborate on a vague statement is not being confused. Sorry If you don't understand that.
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The stuff you brought up wasn't even in this thread and you expect me to follow your line of questioning? Ask a Mod if that's kosher here.
 
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John Prewett said:
Hmmmmm, looks like other believers in Jesus are being harassed because of something I thought would happen at a particular time didn't happen at that time.
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:roll:

Please stop with the drama and over exaggeration. Nobody is "harassing believers in Jesus because of something you said". I for one simply asked WCH his opinion on you being a false prophet since he stated he was of the same "church ' as you. He clarified his stance. He agrees with your position on the "church" aspect, but distanced himself from you and your failed prophecies. Simple as that.

John Prewett said:
NO OTHER Christian I know of ever expressed any agreement with me regarding my prediction (prophecy if you will) that NYCity will be nuked ... much less about the timing.

So it is hardly fair or reasonable to bash Christians in general for my timing error that they knew nothing of.
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Please quote where anyone 'bashed" or "harassed" a Christian or a believer in Jesus because they agreed with or supported your prophecies. This is simply a lie.

John Prewett said:
NO OTHER Christian I know of agrees with me about all of this particular prophecy.
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Again, please quote where anyone said this.

John Prewett said:
Due to my prediction/prophecy regarding JFK, I've been called a "false prophet" since I began distribution of my prophecy.... over 40 years ago.
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And you don't think you are? You predicted the nuke attacks and failed miserably. Does that not make you a false prophet?

John Prewett said:
Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) NO OTHER Christian that I know of shares my belief about Jesus returning these 3 now departed Thai Royals.

So it would be unfair to bash Christians for this also.
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Once again, please quote where people bashed a Christian because they believed or supported your prophecies.

John Prewett said:
Well, just trying to set the record straight for the benefit of those being bashed for my predictions that they knew nothing of
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See above.

John Prewett said:
.... and most likely don't agree with.
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Because people of the same faith/beliefs should recognize you as a false prophet based on the bible.
 
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OlNate said:
Actually, it is a bible-thumping circle jerk, as defined by the OP. Christian conspiracy is a thing...again, not my thing, but a thing. It is not an invitation to have yet another thread about "prove to me that God exists", which is all some atheists ever want to talk about, and the implied or blatant disdain for anyone who dares believe in God, or any other religious figure, ideology, or deity, is bigotry.

Now, I don't know if you fall into that category, which, frankly, is why I wasn't pointing my original comment at you. Should I have?
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Do you have an opinion about the failed prophecy, taking into account what the bible says about false prophets?
 
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WCH said:
The stuff you brought up wasn't even in this thread and you expect me to follow your line of questioning?
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You know what WCH? You are right. I assumed that you would have seen John's other threads that contained his predictions and what he believes before saying/assuming you were from the same "church" as he, but if you honestly knew nothing other than what he posted in this thread, I apologize. I'll be more clear in the future.

WCH said:
Ask a Mod if that's kosher here.
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If what's kosher? Can you please point me to the rule that explains what a mod wouldn't be happy with? Is it against the rules to ask questions regarding posts made in other threads if they are related in some fashion?
 
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John Prewett said:
Due to my prediction/prophecy regarding JFK, I've been called a "false prophet" since I began distribution of my prophecy.... over 40 years ago.
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Based on what the bible says, are you a false prophet John? You predicted the New Years Eve nuke based on scripture and that failed. Does that not make you a false prophet? Funny how you keep avoiding this.
 
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zyzygy said:
Do you have an opinion about the failed prophecy, taking into account what the bible says about false prophets?
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Do you?

I feel like there's an echo in here.

How's your baiting going, by the way? Maybe it would help if I clarified something for you. I don't have a particular interest in the topic, and don't care to debate it, especially not with someone who gets off on trying to be a provocative atheist in 95% of his posts. The soul reason I got involved in this thread was your trolling and bigotry. You may not subscribe to any particular brand of religion, but when someone tells says that God is in their heart, that's a meaningful expression of their faith. Your response of "how does a dead guy get in your heart", and the subsequent condescension and derision that taint all of your religious posts is completely disrespectful, which is ironic, because Atheists demand that their lack of faith be respected as vocally as religious folks do, if not more so.

I have many atheist friends, most of whom are happy to live and let live, and do not get off on ****ting on everyone's beliefs that they do not subscribe to. That you tend to speaks to either a desperate immaturity in the decision you've made regarding your philosophy, or a mean side that simply needed someone to hate, and found an easy target in religious people. I enjoy discussing religion with my atheist friends, from an academic stand point, since we all know that we're not going to convince each other, and don't feel particularly inspired to try. But when you approach religious folk with insult and ridicule in every discussion you enter, why would you think I would ever want to discuss religion with you?

Sorry, homie, I see what you do in every thread you're in. Getting into a religious discussion with you would be like banging my fingers repeatedly with a hammer. No thanks, there's nothing in it for me. Try again when you've learned some basic manners.
 
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OlNate said:
Do you?
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Yes. I posted it. What is your opinion? Why are you avoiding the question? John has not been the soul of politeness, is he free from your criticism because he claims to be a Christian?
 
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OlNate said:
I think I explained that rather clearly.
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Where? I looked through the thread and could not find your explanation. Post number please.
 
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John Prewett said:
Hmmmmm, looks like other believers in Jesus are being harassed because of something I thought would happen at a particular time didn't happen at that time.

For the sake of you that didn't keep up with the pertinent thread, about a month or so ago I became convinced NYCity would be nuked. I am still confident NYCity will be nuked.

About a week before New Years day I came to believe NYCity would be nuked on New Years Day. I was not positive about the date, but I thought that was the date.

On the other thread I was asked something like "what will you say if NYCity is not nuked on New Years Eve ?" I replied "if NYCity is not nuked on New Year Eve then I will admit NYCity was not nuked on New Years Eve"

Obviously NYCity was not nuked on New Years Eve. Well, I did admit my error of TIMING.

NO OTHER Christian I know of ever expressed any agreement with me regarding my prediction (prophecy if you will) that NYCity will be nuked ... much less about the timing.

So it is hardly fair or reasonable to bash Christians in general for my timing error that they knew nothing of.


In addition to the New York City nuking prediction, I have conveyed a particular prophecy regarding JFK and Kissinger for over 40 years.

NO OTHER Christian I know of agrees with me about all of this particular prophecy.

(one man wrote a book which claims JFK is the Beast. I tried to get a letter to him through the publisher years ago and never heard back from him)

Due to my prediction/prophecy regarding JFK, I've been called a "false prophet" since I began distribution of my prophecy.... over 40 years ago.

And .... about 2 years ago I came to believe (and state on my FB home pages ... John Prewett ... and ...John W Prewett)
that Jesus will bring back into this world (to my home, btw) Prince Mahidol and his two sons (kings Bhumibol and Ananda) and will make Thailand his 'burning bush' nation.

Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) NO OTHER Christian that I know of shares my belief about Jesus returning these 3 now departed Thai Royals.

So it would be unfair to bash Christians for this also.

Well, just trying to set the record straight for the benefit of those being bashed for my predictions that they knew nothing of ... and most likely don't agree with.
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Thanks for the clarification...you're right, your predictions, I don't agree with but much of what you've said, I do...many of the requirements for being a follower of Christ I too observe...a few, I do not...baptism is still important, as well as followers coming together to worship...Heb. 10:24, 25 points out just how important that is...as well as God's people having a name...Isa. 43:10...

As for the false prophet or antiChrist, the Bible says there would be not just one, but many...1 John 2:18...

Though John goes on to speak of the antiChrist in verse 22, I believe he was speaking in the collective sense...all people, organizations, or groups that falsely claim to represent Christ or claim to be the Messiah or that oppose Christ and his disciples can properly be called antichrists...
 
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gamolon said:
:roll:

Please stop with the drama and over exaggeration. Nobody is "harassing believers in Jesus because of something you said". I for one simply asked WCH his opinion on you being a false prophet since he stated he was of the same "church ' as you. He clarified his stance. He agrees with your position on the "church" aspect, but distanced himself from you and your failed prophecies. Simple as that.


Please quote where anyone 'bashed" or "harassed" a Christian or a believer in Jesus because they agreed with or supported your prophecies. This is simply a lie.


Again, please quote where anyone said this.


And you don't think you are? You predicted the nuke attacks and failed miserably. Does that not make you a false prophet?


Once again, please quote where people bashed a Christian because they believed or supported your prophecies.


See above.


Because people of the same faith/beliefs should recognize you as a false prophet based on the bible.
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OR...perhaps he is someone who is just searching for the truth...
 
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Elvira said:
Thanks for the clarification...you're right, your predictions, I don't agree with but much of what you've said, I do...many of the requirements for being a follower of Christ I too observe...a few, I do not...baptism is still important, as well as followers coming together to worship...Heb. 10:24, 25 points out just how important that is...as well as God's people having a name...Isa. 43:10...

As for the false prophet or antiChrist, the Bible says there would be not just one, but many...1 John 2:18...

Though John goes on to speak of the antiChrist in verse 22, I believe he was speaking in the collective sense...all people, organizations, or groups that falsely claim to represent Christ or claim to be the Messiah or that oppose Christ and his disciples can properly be called antichrists...
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So is he a false prophet or not? Why do the Christians here seem so reluctant to answer that question with a yes or a no?
 
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zyzygy said:
So is he a false prophet or not? Why do the Christians here seem so reluctant to answer that question with a yes or a no?
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You tell me...does he appear to be against Christ and his teachings?:2brickwal
 
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Elvira said:
You tell me...does he appear to be against Christ and his teachings?:2brickwal
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I would say that he is a false prophet. What do you say? Why do you never answer questions?
 
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OlNate said:
Hmm...good question...
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Stop trolling and answer the question. Is John a false prophet? His prediction did not pan out so obviously he is. Why you and Elvira will not admit it is a puzzle. You are quick to criticize atheists but fellow Christians get a free pass.
 
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zyzygy said:
Stop trolling and answer the question. Is John a false prophet? His prediction did not pan out so obviously he is. Why you and Elvira will not admit it is a puzzle. You are quick to criticize atheists but fellow Christians get a free pass.
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You seem to be missing the point. It's not that we aren't willing or able to have a conversation. Rather, because of your attitude and disdain towards us, we don't want to talk about it with YOU.

Please let me know if you are still struggling with comprehension. I have Google Translate on another tab, if there is a language that works better for you, just let me know your preference.
 
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