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Why do so many Americans continue to think OBL had anything to do with 911. He didn't. There was never any evidence, long promised by various US/UK governments but none was ever forthcoming.

There is so much rank US propaganda that people just "believe" when there is nothing to substantiate it.

FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”
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On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” I asked, “How does that work?” Tomb continued, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-says-no-hard-evidence-connecting-bin-laden-to-9-11/2623
 
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Why do so many Americans continue to think OBL had anything to do with 911. He didn't. There was never any evidence, long promised by various US/UK governments but none was ever forthcoming.

There is so much rank US propaganda that people just "believe" when there is nothing to substantiate it.

Read PENTTBOM....

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/911-investigation

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/a...numbers/the-fbi2019s-9-11-role-by-the-numbers

https://vault.fbi.gov/9-11 Commission Report/9-11-fbi-report-2004-02(feb)

Read the Introduction and tell us again the FBI did not consider OBL at fault.....
 
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I never saw any credible info stating OBL claimed responsibility for 9/11; sure, the government claimed such but there was NEVER any credible evidence

did OBL claim responsibility for 9/11 in a court? did he claim responsibility in a signed confession? what credible evidence does the government have, other than a bull**** claim, that OBL was responsible for 9/11?


9/11 happened on GW Bush's watch; IMO Bush is responsible for 9/11 .................. that piece of **** ................. and he wrecked the goddamn ****ing economy too ...................... ****ing Republicans ................................ **** ..................
 
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I never saw any credible info stating OBL claimed responsibility for 9/11; sure, the government claimed such but there was NEVER any credible evidence

did OBL claim responsibility for 9/11 in a court? did he claim responsibility in a signed confession? what credible evidence does the government have, other than a bull**** claim, that OBL was responsible for 9/11?

You are dead on right, cs.

Point G-1: A Claim Regarding Osama bin Laden


The Official Account
Osama bin Laden was responsible [1] for the 9/11 attacks.

The Best Evidence
The FBI did not list 9/11 [2] as one of the terrorist acts for which Osama bin Laden was wanted.

When asked why, Rex Tomb, when he was the head of investigative publicity for the FBI, stated [3] that the FBI had no hard evidence [4] connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

Also, although Secretary of State Colin Powell, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and the 9/11 Commission promised [5] to provide evidence of Bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, they also failed. [6]


Point G-1 | Consensus 911
 
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Shouldn't this have been started in the Conspiracy Theory section?
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Shouldn't this have been started in the Conspiracy Theory section?

No, this is a statement of facts from the FBI.
 
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If not OBL, who? Did we kill the wrong guy? Why did he seem so pleased with the outcome? Holy flouridation, Batman!
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Shouldn't this have been started in the Conspiracy Theory section?

That is the usual depository here for fantasies.
 
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If not OBL, who? Did we kill the wrong guy? Why did he seem so pleased with the outcome? Holy flouridation, Batman!

Investigating crimes is clearly no hobby of yours. ;) Become informed, Robin.
 
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If not OBL, who? Did we kill the wrong guy? Why did he seem so pleased with the outcome? Holy flouridation, Batman!

You were never given any proof that the USA killed OBL after illegally entering Pakistan in the usual manner of a rogue nation.
 
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You were never given any proof that the USA killed OBL after illegally entering Pakistan in the usual manner of a rogue nation.
?
He just conveniently shut up forever on exactly the same day he is claimed to have been killed?
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Why do so many Americans continue to think OBL had anything to do with 911. He didn't. There was never any evidence, long promised by various US/UK governments but none was ever forthcoming.

There is so much rank US propaganda that people just "believe" when there is nothing to substantiate it.

Global Research is written to pander to the mentally ill and CTer loons. Osama repeatedly stated he launched 9/11. The real question is why so many anti Americans continue to believe in ancient and easily debunked fantasies.
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

I never saw any credible info stating OBL claimed responsibility for 9/11; sure, the government claimed such but there was NEVER any credible evidence

did OBL claim responsibility for 9/11 in a court? did he claim responsibility in a signed confession? what credible evidence does the government have, other than a bull**** claim, that OBL was responsible for 9/11?


9/11 happened on GW Bush's watch; IMO Bush is responsible for 9/11 .................. that piece of **** ................. and he wrecked the goddamn ****ing economy too ...................... ****ing Republicans ................................ **** ..................

Oh really? His own words don't mean anything to you?

Because he repeatedly claimed responsibility.

Osama Bin Laden's 9/11 Confession (2001) Video - ABC News

Bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11 | Fox News

Bin Laden: Yes, I did it - Telegraph
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Why do so many Americans continue to think OBL had anything to do with 911. He didn't. There was never any evidence, long promised by various US/UK governments but none was ever forthcoming.

There is so much rank US propaganda that people just "believe" when there is nothing to substantiate it.

I think it was an inside job organized by Hillary and Bill.
And maybe Obama
 
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BELIEVE WHAT YOU LIKE ........................

OBL has never claimed responsibility for 9/11 in (1) any court of law, or (2) within any formal confession, PERIOD.
Further, OBL was never formally charged with the attacks.


https://web.archive.org/web/20080516041810/http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_interview_ummat.htm

Interview published in newspaper Ummat Karachi, 28th September, 2001

Usama bin Laden Says the Al-Qa'idah Group had Nothing to Do with the 11 September Attacks

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States."
 
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I think it was an inside job organized by Hillary and Bill.
And maybe Obama

The science is 100% clear; there are multiple singular science issues that by themselves show it was NOT Arab militants. Who does that leave, Pete?

Muslims had not a snowball's chance in hell of possessing or bringing to WTC the nanothermite that is a non-commercially available, US government/US military, 1990s developed in US military labs, "new generation of super explosives".
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Propaganda has always worked wonders on Americans and other equally gullible westerners.


Point G-1: A Claim Regarding Osama bin Laden
<< Previous Point, Next Point >>


The Official Account
Osama bin Laden was responsible [1] for the 9/11 attacks.

The Best Evidence
The FBI did not list 9/11 [2] as one of the terrorist acts for which Osama bin Laden was wanted.

When asked why, Rex Tomb, when he was the head of investigative publicity for the FBI, stated [3] that the FBI had no hard evidence [4] connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

Also, although Secretary of State Colin Powell, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and the 9/11 Commission promised [5] to provide evidence of Bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, they also failed. [6]
 
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BELIEVE WHAT YOU LIKE ........................

OBL has never claimed responsibility for 9/11 in (1) any court of law, or (2) within any formal confession, PERIOD.


https://web.archive.org/web/20080516041810/http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_interview_ummat.htm

Interview published in newspaper Ummat Karachi, 28th September, 2001

Usama bin Laden Says the Al-Qa'idah Group had Nothing to Do with the 11 September Attacks

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States."

Yeah, I think I'll believe what Osama Bin Laden repeatedly stated over fantasies from lunatics.


Osama Bin Laden did not want to go to jail. He had no interest in going to court. He literally did everything in his power to avoid being taken alive, PERIOD.

And yet within weeks he'd already given up the charade and announced his guilt.
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Propaganda has always worked wonders on Americans and other equally gullible westerners.


Point G-1: A Claim Regarding Osama bin Laden
<< Previous Point, Next Point >>


The Official Account
Osama bin Laden was responsible [1] for the 9/11 attacks.

The Best Evidence
The FBI did not list 9/11 [2] as one of the terrorist acts for which Osama bin Laden was wanted.

When asked why, Rex Tomb, when he was the head of investigative publicity for the FBI, stated [3] that the FBI had no hard evidence [4] connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

Also, although Secretary of State Colin Powell, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and the 9/11 Commission promised [5] to provide evidence of Bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, they also failed. [6]

Gullible anti Americans like yourself, on the other hand, swallow lies and untruths greedily to support your own narrative regardless of facts.
 
Re: FBI says OBL has nothing to do with 911

Global Research is written to pander to the mentally ill and CTer loons. Osama repeatedly stated he launched 9/11. The real question is why so many anti Americans continue to believe in ancient and easily debunked fantasies.

As always, zero evidence. There is a Zero Evidence Club here at DP. A lot of you should consider joining.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can melt steel, 2800F, with jet fuel/office furnishings, 1500F. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can vaporize steel, 4900F, with jet fuel/office furnishings, 1500F. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can melt molybdenum, 4753F, with jet fuel/office furnishings, 1500F. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can create the by products of nanothermite reactions, iron microspheres, 6% of WTC dust, 2800F, with jet fuel/office furnishings, 1500F. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can suspend the laws of physics and make WTC7 fall at free fall for the first 2.25 seconds, 8 storeys, 105 feet of its descent. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can vaporize lead, 3180F, with jet fuel/office furnishings, 1500F. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

Mentally ill folks are those who believe that Muslims can suspend the laws of physics and make the twin towers collapse, straight thru the path of greatest resistance, the stone cold, more massive steel core columns at accelerating speeds. TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
 
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Yeah, I think I'll believe what Osama Bin Laden repeatedly stated over fantasies from lunatics.


Osama Bin Laden did not want to go to jail. He had no interest in going to court. He literally did everything in his power to avoid being taken alive, PERIOD.

And yet within weeks he'd already given up the charade and announced his guilt.


maybe you can talk to the moderator staff about the "lunatic" remark.

FYI, OBL was dead by late December, 2001 ..........................

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The 9/11 Commission

What about the 9/11 Commission? Its report gave the impression that it was in possession of solid evidence of bin Laden’s guilt. But the Commission’s co-chairs, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, undermined this impression in their follow-up book, which they subtitled: “The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission.”15 (I discussed this book at length in Chapter 2 of my 2007 book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking.16)

As the endnotes for The 9/11 Commission Report reveal, whenever the Commission referred to evidence of bin Ladin’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, the Commission was always referring to CIA-provided information, which had (presumably) been elicited during interrogations of al-Qaeda operatives. By far the most important of these operatives was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, generally called simply “KSM,” who has been called the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. The Commission, for example, wrote:

Bin Ladin . . . finally decided to give the green light for the 9/11 operation sometime in late 1998 or early 1999. . . . Bin Ladin also soon selected four individuals to serve as suicide operatives. . . . Atta – whom Bin Ladin chose to lead the group – met with Bin Ladin several times to receive additional instructions, including a preliminary list of approved targets: the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the U.S. Capitol.17

The note for each of these statements says: “interrogation of KSM.”18

Kean and Hamilton, however, reported that they had no success in “obtaining access to star witnesses in custody . . . , most notably Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.”19 Besides not being allowed to interview these witnesses, Commission members were not even permitted to observe the interrogations through one-way glass or to talk to the interrogators.20 Therefore, Kean and Hamilton complained: “We . . . had no way of evaluating the credibility of detainee information. How could we tell if someone such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed . . . was telling us the truth?”

An NBC “deep background” report in 2008 pointed out an additional problem: KSM and the other al-Qaeda leaders had been subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques,” i.e., torture, and it is now widely acknowledged that statements elicited by torture lack credibility. “At least four of the operatives whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report,” NBC pointed out, “have claimed that they told interrogators critical information as a way to stop being ‘tortured.'” NBC then quoted Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, as saying: “Most people look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a trusted historical document. If their conclusions were supported by information gained from torture, . . . their conclusions are suspect.”22
 
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