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The UFO Conspiracy - Truth: "Aliens" are Fallen Angels

You believe as you will. I have seen the movie several times and pride myself in my ability to discern fact from fiction.

Uh, no.

Its pure conspiro codswallop.
 
He didn't spot that it was fiction.

Despite what you or others say, Universal Pictures still claims the movie to be based on a true story. This has not change.

Here's a real interview with Dr. Abigail Tyler. This video includes real footage taken by her which clearly demonstrates the acts of aliens as being demonic.

 
Despite what you or others say, Universal Pictures still claims the movie to be based on a true story. This has not change.

Claimed yes, proved no.
 
According to promotional materials from Universal, the film is framed around a psychologist named Abigail Tyler who interviewed traumatized patients in Nome. But state licensing examiner Jan Mays says she can't find records of an Abigail Tyler ever being licensed in any profession in Alaska. No one by that name lived in Nome in recent years, according to a search of public record databases.

Still, there is a shred of "evidence." Try Googling "Abigail Tyler" and "Alaska." You'll get a link to a convincingly boring Web site called the "Alaska Psychiatry Journal" – complete with a biography of a psychologist by that name who researched sleep behavior in Nome. Except the site is suspiciously vacant, mostly a collection of articles on sleep studies with no home page or contact information. Ron Adler is CEO and director of the Alaska Psychiatric Institute. Denise Dillard is president of the Alaska Psychological Association. They said this week they've never heard of the Alaska Psychiatry Journal, or of Abigail Tyler.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/nov/09/the-fourth-kind-sleep-paralysis

But the movie stumbled out of the gate by hanging most of its fear power on a fundamental dishonesty. There is no "archival footage." There are no "actual case studies." Instead, we get badly-acted, blatantly fake documentary footage which fuzzes out whenever anything alien happens. There is some interesting editing, where filmmaker Olatunde Osunsanmi shows the fake footage split-screened alongside a reenactment of the fake footage and you feel like you're either watching 24 or some kind of weird art-school critique of documentary realism. Unfortunately the ashen fake/real Tyler is such a bad actress, and her CGI-widened eyes so "alien," that you wind up with the sense that Osunsanmi and crew thought audiences for this movie would be so monumentally stupid that they would fall for anything.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5397359/the-fourth-kind-is-a-hoax
 
According to promotional materials from Universal, the film is framed around a psychologist named Abigail Tyler who interviewed traumatized patients in Nome. However Alaska state licensing examiner Jan Mays says she can't find records of an Abigail Tyler ever being licensed in any profession in Alaska. Ron Adler, CEO and director of the Alaska Psychiatric Institute and Denise Dillard, president of the Alaska Psychological Association say they've never heard of Abigail Tyler. Web sites for an "Alaska Psychiatry Journal" and "Alaska News Archive" containing references to Tyler were created by the film's producers, but were outed as hoaxes when it was discovered they were registered a month before the film's release and the purported author of one of the archived news articles stated she had never written it."

# The movie's hoaxed interviews have angered the families of real missing persons in and around Nome, Alaska, for trivializing their loss. Melanie Edwards, Vice President of Kawerak Inc (an organization representing tribal peoples in Alaska) described the movie as "insensitive to family members of people who have gone missing in Nome over the years". Universal has refused to discuss the movie with that organization or with local journalists.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091108104237AAVjUrI

I would briefly like to ruin the critically despised The Fourth Kind, for the sake of anyone contemplating renting the DVD. If you're dead set on doing so, be my guest, but don't read what follows until afterwards... The film, a UFO abduction thriller, purports to be based on actual events, and goes to great length to convince us of its veracity, using split screens to show admitted re-enactments alongside "actual" archival footage showing nearly identical "home video" versions of what we're seeing (mostly hypnotherapy sessions that go very weird). It swears up and down that what it is showing us is true. As any viewer with a few firing brain cells will strongly suspect while watching the film, none of it is. Dr. Abigail Tyler does not exist, is being played by an actress whose name is known, and the various news stories Universal planted online to virally suggest, a la The Blair Witch Project, that the events in the film are real, led to a lawsuit and a settlement. The initial debunker of the film appears to be an Anchorage journalist named Kyle Hopkins; his original article is here. More links to people debunking the film are on the Wikipedia page. The film is entertaining, if you have a taste for brainless hysteria, but the most interesting thing about The Fourth Kind, in fact, is observing the ridiculous lengths the filmmakers go to to make us believe that what we are seeing really happened; they place so much weight on this angle, in fact - explaining that the actors are merely actors every time they appear (except for the ones playing Abigail Tyler or her hypnotized "real" patients); announcing each tape recording or video clip used within the film as being actual archival material - that once one discovers it was all crap, the film entirely collapses, becomes nothing more than an immense gimmick, akin to a very elaborate instance of someone pointing in the sky, saying "it's a UFO!" and, when you turn your head, going, "Ha ha - made you look!" Also noteworthy in being a career low for Elias Koteas and Will Patton, tho' perhaps it's a step up from the Resident Evil movies for poor Milla. You have been warned.
Alienated in Vancouver: The Fourth Kind DVD review. Sort of.
 
The movie "The Exorcist" was based on a true story too. There were probably people making false allegations then as well. There is always a skeptic attempting to squash the truth in attempts of leading the masses astray. It's a pity to see them at work.
 
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The movie "The Exorcist" was based on a true story too. .


This is so easy.

The Exorcist” isn’t just the product of someone’s wild imagination; it’s actually based on a real-life event, though how much of that event is “true” is entirely a matter of personal … well, faith.

“The Exorcist” was based on the 1971 novel of the same name by William Peter Blatty, which was in turn inspired by the exorcism case of Roland Doe, a pseudonym given to the victim by the Catholic Church. Most of the details surrounding Doe’s alleged possession and exorcisms come from a diary kept by the attending priest, Fr. Raymond Bishop, and from newspaper reports that came from an at the time anonymous source, which was later revealed to be the Doe family’s former pastor, the Reverend Luther Miles Schulze. Later, Thomas B. Allen wrote a book about the case, “Possessed: The True Story of an Exorcism” (published in 1993), which was based on two sources: Bishop’s diary and the testimony of Fr. Walter Halloran, one of the last surviving eyewitnesses of the events and a participant in the second leg of exorcisms.

Read the Priest’s diary here [PDF] I’m unclear about the diary. It looks like much of it is details given second or third hand. These stories are always prone to interpretation and mistakes in the telling so there is not much more we can get from it. A previous investigation by author Mark Opsasnick concludes that Roland Doe “was simply a spoiled, disturbed bully who threw deliberate tantrums to get attention or to get out of school.”

There is NO doubt that Blatty’s novel was extremely exaggerated. But it was influential in what people think about possession and exorcism. It never happened. The “real story” behind it is also likely to be greatly exaggerated with mistaken details. It is also clear that the conflicting and confabulated story of Roland Doe is not a very reliable account.
http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/06/a-shaky-foundation-for-demonic-possession-of-the-exorcist/
 
Demonstrating prodigious strength, speaking in an unknown language, and exhibiting other allegedly diabolical feats supposedly characterize the “true story” behind The Exorcist. The 1973 horror movie-starring Linda Blair as the devil-plagued victim-was based on the 1971 bestselling novel of that title by William Peter Blatty. The movie, reports one writer, “somehow reached deep into the subconscious and stirred up nameless fears.” Some moviegoers vomited or fainted, while others left trembling, and there were “so many outbreaks of hysteria that, at some theaters, nurses and ambulances were on call.” Indeed, “Many sought therapy to rid themselves of fears they could not explain. Psychiatrists were writing about cases of 'cinematic neurosis'” (Allen 2000, viii-ix).

Blatty had heard about the exorcism performed in 1949 and, almost two decades later, had written to the exorcist to inquire about it. However the priest, Father William S. Bowdern, declined to assist Blatty because he had been directed by the archbishop to keep it secret. He did tell Blatty-then a student at Washington’s Georgetown University, a Jesuit institution-about the diary an assisting priest had kept of the disturbing events (Allen 2000, ix-x).

The diary-written by Father Raymond J. Bishop-consisted of an original 26-page, single-spaced typescript and three carbon copies, one of which was eventually provided to Thomas B. Allen, author of Possessed, and included as an appendix to the 2000 edition of the book. The copy came from Father Walter Halloran, who had also assisted with the exorcism. Halloran verified the authenticity of the diary and stated that it had been read and approved by Bowdern (Allen 2000, 243, 301).

The diary opens with a “Background of the Case.” The boy, an only child identified as “R,” was born in 1935 and raised an Evangelical Lutheran like his mother; his father was baptized a Catholic but had had “no instruction or practice” in the faith. The family’s Cottage City, Maryland, home included the maternal grandmother who had been a “practicing Catholic until the age of fourteen years” (Bishop 1949, 245).

On January 15, 1949, R and his grandmother heard odd “dripping” and scratching noises in her bedroom, where a picture of Jesus shook “as if the wall back of it had been bumped.” The effects lasted ten days but were attributed to a rodent. Then R began to say he could hear the scratching when others could not. Soon a noise as of “squeaking shoes"-or, one wonders, could it have been bedsprings?-became audible and “was heard only at night when the boy went to bed.” On the sixth evening the scratching noise resumed, and R’s mother and grandmother lay with him on his bed, whereupon they “heard something coming toward them similar to the rhythm of marching feet and the beat of drums.” The sound seemed to “travel the length of the mattress and back again” repeatedly (Bishop 1949, 246). Was R tapping his toes against the bed’s footboard?
https://www.csicop.org/si/show/exorcism_driving_out_the_nonsense
 
Nice try, but I'm not buying it. I have personally seen and talked with demons. Also, I was temporarily possessed twice by a demon. I know they are real. Now there's also "The Exorcism of Emily Rose." A classic case of a psychiatrist lying in court about demonic possession and coining the words "psychotic epileptic seizures" to describe it. This condition is non-existent to the American Psychiatric Association. Also, the prosecuting attorney was claiming that Emily had learned four different languages during the course of an eight month Catechism course in an attempt to explain Emily speaking four different languages. This is literally impossible. Catechism is merely one hour a week for eight month's and they do not teach other languages. Quite simply put...people try to explain away the truth with fabricated lies.

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Emily herself admitted to being possessed by demons and I believe her.​
 
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Nice try, but I'm not buying it. I have personally seen and talked with demons. ]

You have not. Your delusions and hallucinations are not proof.
 
Absolutely serious. If you do not believe that God exist, you are highly mistaken. And I pity your soul. For those souls without god in the afterlife are in ruins. I saw Jesus dressed as a shepherd when I was a nine year old boy. I have heard the voice of my Father God say that "the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time." God battles evil by salvaging souls through His Son, Jesus Christ. His voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The sound of power wisps around His words as He speaks. I have witnessed the Holy Spirit and got to know Him
Was this before or after your LSD trip wore off??
 
You have not. Your delusions and hallucinations are not proof.

You can believe what you want. But I am merely one among many that bear witness to demons.
 
My Personal Encounters with Aliens

My story begins one night while laying awake in bed. I was accustomed at this time in my life to seeing and hearing spirits. A knowing spirit with powers recreated from memory the sound of a spacecraft and teleported an alien in spirit to my bedside. The alien spirit spoke in a highly technological sounding language that resembled an old telegraph machine. Upon recognizing that I could not understand him, he said the word “human” and then vanished. It is my belief that a knowing angelic being did this to inform me that I would be or have been paid a visit by this alien in body arriving in a spacecraft. I believe this was a prophetic vision of aliens being in my life and collecting my DNA for cloning.

A few years later my wife and I had seen my doppelganger (spirit-double). The lowly dead of the spirit world called it a clone. Then it was revealed to me by a much higher being that I had truly been cloned. As I laid awake in bed, a progression of spirits in the cloning process had laid upon me. About five in total with the first having the most slim covering its’ bodily form and its’ mouth filled with a thick mucus-like substance. They appeared to have been in a vat of a thick gel-like substance.

This next encounter was a physical one. I was running a fever one night and sleeping. I hadn’t had a fever in years and it was no coincidence that I was running one this night. My wife and I had the fan blowing up our noses and could easily smell things in the room. My fever began to suddenly rise and I began squirming in bed violently. I was awakening when I smelt their scent. They smelt as though they come from the water. Although I did not see them, there was an obvious alien presence in the room. They quickly vanished from the bedroom and their scent went away. My wife later said that she felt something pulling on her legs and smelling sulfur. This scenario brings to mind the Legend of the Doppelganger. Legend has it that if a person sees their own doppelganger (spirit-double), it means imminent death. I believe that the aliens were there to harm me that night and my protector Father God or Jesus had intervened by making my fever go up, chasing them away and saving my life.
 
This thread puts me at risk of walking myself into an infraction and I know this is the conspiracy forum, but holy **** that's some crazy nonsense.



(Nevermind that high fevers are known to produce delusion or hallucination. I had one when I hit 105 as a child. But I still had enough sense to realize that the compulsion I felt to take the number one, double it, and keep doubling the result - along with the audio-visual disturbance I was experiencing at the time and the overwhelming terror I felt at the thought I might not be able to keep doubling the number once I hit the millions - was delusion, even if I didn't know the word "delusion"; so, I finished peeing as quickly as possible, made my way back to bed, buried myself under the covers, and went back to sleep. I did not blame aliens, or angels, etc.).

I would suggest that if anyone experiences any of the mixture of delusions and hallucinations described in this thread and has not ingested at least five doses of high-powered acid consider seeking some kind of medical attention.
 
What is it that you find a fantasy?...aliens?...or that aliens are some of the fallen angels?...or both?

“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.” - Mark Twain​

Aliens are not fallen angels.
 
This thread puts me at risk of walking myself into an infraction and I know this is the conspiracy forum, but holy **** that's some crazy nonsense.



(Nevermind that high fevers are known to produce delusion or hallucination. I had one when I hit 105 as a child. But I still had enough sense to realize that the compulsion I felt to take the number one, double it, and keep doubling the result - along with the audio-visual disturbance I was experiencing at the time and the overwhelming terror I felt at the thought I might not be able to keep doubling the number once I hit the millions - was delusion, even if I didn't know the word "delusion"; so, I finished peeing as quickly as possible, made my way back to bed, buried myself under the covers, and went back to sleep. I did not blame aliens, or angels, etc.).

I would suggest that if anyone experiences any of the mixture of delusions and hallucinations described in this thread and has not ingested at least five doses of high-powered acid consider seeking some kind of medical attention.

I have never hallucinated in my life. Just because you are unable to believe something, does not make it untrue. And, you can try to explain away the truth all you want, the truth still does not change. It's only the lie that changes.

Because it is sometimes so unbelievable, the truth escapes being known. Heraclitus (500 B.C.)
 
Aliens are not fallen angels.

There are many who disagree. This is one of the best videos I've seen in regards to the alien agenda and alien Savior deception. It is worth watching if you have the time.


 


There are many who disagree. This is one of the best videos I've seen in regards to the alien agenda and alien Savior deception. It is worth watching if you have the time.




I'll watch it when I next need a good laugh.
 
I'll watch it when I next need a good laugh.

There are already people in the world that believe that we were created by aliens. A characteristic of demons is that they go around masquerading as God.
 
There are already people in the world that believe that we were created by aliens. A characteristic of demons is that they go around masquerading as God.

I know, it's annoying. I can't step outside with bumping into demons masquerading as a god.
 
There are already people in the world that believe that we were created by aliens. A characteristic of demons is that they go around masquerading as God.

Is what you're smoking legal?
 
Carl Sagan said on UFOs, "I'll believe them it I see it."
 
I know, it's annoying. I can't step outside with bumping into demons masquerading as a god.

You're more likely to witness it after you have fallen into hell, while among the dead of the netherworld.
 
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