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If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles![W:461]

Bodhisattva said:
Not all 19 had box cutters and there were more involved that did not board the planes due to being in caves in the M.E.

So in a strange bizarre way... you are correct.

Go figure!!
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a very small, treasonous, rouge element of top US officials; yes. Thank you ..........
 
cuban smokes said:
a very small, treasonous, rouge element of top US officials; yes. Thank you ..........
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Top US Officials hide in caves in Afghanistan with Al Quada? Do you have proof of this revelation!!??
 
CLAX1911 said:
We've been melting steel with fire for centuries.
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There's that patent dishonesty of yours again. You prove that hydrocarbon fuels in a building fire can melt steel.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Not all 19 had box cutters and there were more involved that did not board the planes due to being in caves in the M.E. ... !
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No evidence as always.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Were the Arabs Illegal Aliens in addition to being blood thirsty terrorists?
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As always, no evidence for what are obviously racist lies.
 
CLAX1911 said:
whoever is not saying Steel reaches its solidus at 1130°C is incorrect.
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That isn't what this is about. Stop throwing words around trying to create a pretense that you have some specialized knowledge.

There weren't temperatures in the twin towers on 9/11 sufficient to melt the structural steel. Yet there was melted/vaporized WTC structural steel as seen and reported by numerous eyewitnesses, as found and described by FEMA.

Thus, the fact that there were 90,000 L of jet fuel on a few floors of the WTC does not mean that this was an unusually hot fire. The temperature of the fire at the WTC was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel. --- Eager & Musso
 
Re: molten aluminum.

camlok said:
You think that this sentence, which I have put in bold, below, is clear?

Originally Posted by CLAX1911

weather is melted Steel clearly he was. Steel doesn't melt at that temperature.



Not everyone, but you sure do. Look at all the things you are studiously ignoring. That is lying by omission.

You lie in your statement above, underlined so you don't misrepresent things again. They are not my theories.
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I have ignored unsubstantiated claims. Nothing more.
 
Re: molten aluminum.

CLAX1911 said:
I have ignored unsubstantiated claims. Nothing more.
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Another lie. You ignore the science of men who poke huge holes in the flimsy fable that you pretend to believe in. That's another lie right there. You don't really believe in the impossible USGOCT but you lie that you do.
 
camlok said:
There's that patent dishonesty of yours again. You prove that hydrocarbon fuels in a building fire can melt steel.
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We've been melting steel with fire for centuries that's not dishonest that's a fact the fact that you call it dishonesty is denying reality so you can push your narrative.
 
Re: molten aluminum.

camlok said:
Another lie. You ignore the science of men who poke huge holes in the flimsy fable that you pretend to believe in. That's another lie right there. You don't really believe in the impossible USGOCT but you lie that you do.
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Everything that isn't affirmation of your delusion you call a lie. This is a pathological mechanism to protect a delusion.
 
Sadling said:
I'm not the one who failed to include the resistance capacity of the intact core structure below the upper block into the equation; that was you. You're trying to make a case that it's completely within the realm of possibility that the lower intact core structure had no effect on the speed of the descent of the upper block. You know better. Of course you do.

Now, let's have another go at it.

On the video below, at either the 30 second or 1:12 mark, place a straightedge horizontally across the screen and line it up with the top of the building and then count the seconds it takes for the 360 feet of antenna to pass the marker. It will show that the upper block descends at a rate that is just forty feet shy of freefall. That means that the upper block passed through the core structure as if it weren't there. To be more precise, one structure magically passed through another structure of the exact same composition without so much as a visible jolt. So how does that happen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
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What is the maximum load of a WTC floor, typical? Wait, science, engineering, geometry, physics, math are not used to make up the CD claim. Never mind. So, the building starts to fall, and you make a claim with no sources, nothing. Not surprised things on earth accelerate when falling. Yes, the collapse front of one WTC tower took 12.08 seconds or longer to reach the ground floor, slower than freefall. This 12 seconds is not a surprize, and is exactly what momentum conservation shows, as each floor fails. Simple physics, no need for explosives, gravity alone accounts for the speed and acceleration of collapse.

The antenna is not perpendicular or in the z-plane when falling, it is tilting; thus your fake numbers don't add up. You forgot geometry, or you plagiarized the claim from 9/11 truth. You can't even check if I got the energy due to gravity released during collapse from gravity, >100 tons of TNT, over 423,000,000,000 joules.
The initial collapse acceleration is less than g, less than 9.81 m/s, it is physics. This is not evidence for anything but fire caused the collapse, and proof of gravity.

I can get things to fall faster than freefall/g... anyone can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7TPvk__kE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QFAB0gEtE

WTC 7 was internally collapsing many seconds before the roofline falls, it could be like the chain, and explain the 2 or so seconds near g. 9/11 truth can't use physics, they use hearsay, lies and opinions, based on zero evidence. 9/11 truth claims are science free opinions, if 9/11 truth used science, 9/11 truth would vaporize faster than freefall.
 
CLAX1911 said:
no I don't really care about your delusion I find it fascinating that you are diluted into believing you have some special truth and that your paranoid fantasies are real.

I didn't say I didn't care about anything I said I don't care about your delusion I don't care to hear how you justify it made up little things you come up with to support it. I do care about the reality.
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But you're like the Energizer Bunny, you just keep beating your drum and offering nothing at all relevant to proving your (and the government's) theory. :doh
 
camlok said:
That isn't what this is about. Stop throwing words around trying to create a pretense that you have some specialized knowledge.
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nobody can know more than you about this you were the Supreme Being of knowledge when it comes to this and everyone that says otherwise it's a liar right?

It's odd to see narcissism mixed in with a paranoid delusion but here we are.
 
No Sunshine, what you offer are not facts at all. They are government propaganda talking points, 16 years old now, and you are unable to prove a single one.

One could say all those claims and talking points you just regurgitated have been DEBUNKED. Your favorite word, and it now applies to your nonsensical story. War is Hell, Sunshine. ;)
 
CLAX1911 said:
I didn't present a theory. This us against them dichotomy is part of a delusion.
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You are just dull enough to not understand that you HAVE presented a theory. You have presented a defense of the official theory. :roll:
 
Thoreau72 said:
You are just dull enough to not understand that you HAVE presented a theory. You have presented a defense of the official theory. :roll:
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I only stated facts.

Us against them dichotomy is a symptom of paranoid delusions.

Random foil hat crap about thermite isn't legitimate.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I only stated facts.

Us against them dichotomy is a symptom of paranoid delusions.

Random foil hat crap about thermite isn't legitimate.
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You don't know fact from fiction, and that sort of dullness is found in just about every post you make on this subject matter.
 
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