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If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles![W:461]

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Every house that burns down never collapses in a perfect symmetrical manner. The symmetry of the twin towers collapses is another of the myriad smoking guns that show, without any doubt, that the twin towers were blown up in controlled demolitions. The symmetry and the free fall of WTC7 shows, without any doubt, that WTC7 was blown up in a controlled demolition.

Cue the nanothermite, the molten and vaporized WTC structural steel, the myriad eyewitnesses attesting to the molten WTC structural steel, the voluminous by products of the nanothermite reactions found in WTC dust, ... .

Why, with so much evidence against the USGOCT and NONE for it do so many people still pretend to believe?

Because Goebbels was right?
 
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As I said, I'm 100% positive that what my friend told me was correct. Outside of that -- I can't speak to any of it.

Yes, the government has kept some secrets and some have come out. Still, something of the magnitude you suggest would very likely be "leaked" by someone who felt extreme guilt.

Unlike you, however, I don't think the government launched the attack. Perhaps there were no Arab hijackers either, but that only means they're keeping "something" from us -- not that they, themselves, launched an attack on their own citizenry.

I think you bring up an excellent point. "The government" as we use the term in the discussion is not really completely accurate. I say that because IMO "the government" was hijacked many long years before 2001. So the more accurate term would include that rogue agents within the government caused this to happen.

However, as alluded to by Kean and Hamilton, "the government" in the ordinary sense, did certainly cover-up details of the crime, including getting rid of so much forensic evidence. Yes, under the watchful eye of the neocon Philip Zelikow, the commission was set up to fail.

https://digwithin.net/
 
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... I'm doubting that it was a conspiracy by the government. Perhaps an attack by someone else that we found prodigious to blame on Al Qaeda, ...

We all know by now that there were no Arab hijackers. Even the USGOCT conspiracy theorists won't suggest such a ludicrous notion.

But consider who is left when we all know there were no Arab hikackers.

1. The people who OWN the US nanothermite, which was found in WTC dust.

2. The people who own the nanothermite which created all the molten steel seen by so many eyewitnesses, molten/vaporized steel that was collected and studied by FEMA.

3. The people who own the nanothermite which created all the large volumes of iron microspheres, one of the major by products of nanothermite reactions.

4. The people who own the nanothermite which caused WTC7 to fall at free fall speed, which is impossible without a controlled demolition.

5. The people who own the nanothermite which caused the twin towers to fall at accelerating speed, which is impossible without a controlled demolition.

Just number 1, "The people who own the nanothermite" should be enough for any thinking, rational human being. This entire affair is testament to the incredible power of the US propaganda system. There is no chance that something this big could have been pulled off by anyone but elements of the US government.

But even they got too big for their britches and made many fatal errors. But, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!, just think what they can do to you if you let them get away with something as big as 9/11. All it requires of citizens, and I use the term lightly because by and large you, and you know who you are, have NOT been what citizens should be, is to demand a REAL investigation.

You all, and you know who you are, have been the most incredible sheeple ever.

Sixty three times, the 9/11 Commission said that they couldn't find any evidence for things put forward by the Zelikow team of 9/11 Commission minders. That there was this team of minders controlling and manipulating a criminal investigation should have real citizens marching in the streets, not just contentedly munching grass.
 
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Because Goebbels was right?

Yup you are proof of that every day.
You ignore the evidence and believe BS without any evidence because you spend all your time reading CT sites, who spend all theirt time lying
Cognitive dissonance in action
 
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Yup you are proof of that every day.
You ignore the evidence and believe BS without any evidence because you spend all your time reading CT sites, who spend all theirt time lying
Cognitive dissonance in action

There is no evidence in this "post" of yours, Quag, supporting the USGOCT. As always. Can you please inform everyone when your last post with evidence appeared in any thread.

You know there were no Arab hijackers. Do you know what a "sheeple" is?
 
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There is no evidence in this "post" of yours, Quag, supporting the USGOCT. As always. Can you please inform everyone when your last post with evidence appeared in any thread.

You know there were no Arab hijackers. Do you know what a "sheeple" is?

:lamo
Cam thinks he isnt sheeple
Still 0 evidence from Cam just the usual lies and insults


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:lamo
Cam thinks he isnt sheeple
Still 0 evidence from Cam just the usual lies and insults

It isn't an insult to point out that you never ever provide any evidence for the USGOCT, Quag.

Let's discuss the following, which you have ignored myriad times already.

But consider who is left when we all know there were no Arab hikackers.

1. The people who OWN the US nanothermite, which was found in WTC dust.

2. The people who own the nanothermite which created all the molten steel seen by so many eyewitnesses, molten/vaporized steel that was collected and studied by FEMA.

3. The people who own the nanothermite which created all the large volumes of iron microspheres, one of the major by products of nanothermite reactions.

4. The people who own the nanothermite which caused WTC7 to fall at free fall speed, which is impossible without a controlled demolition.

5. The people who own the nanothermite which caused the twin towers to fall at accelerating speed, which is impossible without a controlled demolition.
 
re: If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles![W:461]

Yup you are proof of that every day.
You ignore the evidence and believe BS without any evidence because you spend all your time reading CT sites, who spend all theirt time lying
Cognitive dissonance in action

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes
 
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It isn't an insult to point out that you never ever provide any evidence for the USGOCT, Quag.

Let's discuss the following, which you have ignored myriad times already.

But consider who is left when we all know there were no Arab hikackers.

1. The people who OWN the US nanothermite, which was found in WTC dust.

2. The people who own the nanothermite which created all the molten steel seen by so many eyewitnesses, molten/vaporized steel that was collected and studied by FEMA.

3. The people who own the nanothermite which created all the large volumes of iron microspheres, one of the major by products of nanothermite reactions.

4. The people who own the nanothermite which caused WTC7 to fall at free fall speed, which is impossible without a controlled demolition.

5. The people who own the nanothermite which caused the twin towers to fall at accelerating speed, which is impossible without a controlled demolition.
“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes



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Here are many people proving that John the gross liar Gross of NIST is, well, a gross liar. These are the people who you pretend you support, Quag. Why would you pretend to support the liars who are covering for the actual perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks?

 
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Here are many people proving that John the gross liar Gross of NIST is, well, a gross liar. These are the people who you pretend you support, Quag. Why would you pretend to support the liars who are covering for the actual perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks?



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Now see, Quag, I supplied evidence that sinks the USGOCT but in your posts you have provided zero evidence for the USGOCT.

Here is some more evidence that sinks the USGOCT. An eyewitness to the bombs/explosions going off in the twin towers. These have been confirmed by the seismic record, another thing that all by its lonesome sinks the USGOCT.

Will you respond with some evidence for the USGOCT?

 
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re: If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles![W:461]

Now see, Quag, I supplied evidence that sinks the USGOCT but in your posts you have provided zero evidence for the USGOCT.

Here is some more evidence that sinks the USGOCT. An eyewitness to the bombs/explosions going off in the twin towers. These have been confirmed by the seismic record, another thing that all by its lonesome sinks the USGOCT.

Will you respond with some evidence for the USGOCT?



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Explosive charges brought down WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

"From the beginning, my skepticism about the official explanation of the Twin Towers collapses turned to spurning it as soon as I saw the videos of the WTC7 collapse, which reminds one of controlled demolition. When I heard that seismic waves had been emitted at the time of the 9/11 events, I looked for reliable data and examined the signals recorded at the Palisades station. The apparently contradictory parameters relative to wave velocities and frequencies were easily explained if we consider that the seismic waves were created by strong explosives. Those explosives could not be triggered other than manually. It is therefore a criminal provocation." -- Dr Andre Rousseau [Retired, former researcher in the French National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS)]
 
re: If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles![W:461]

Explosive charges brought down WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

"From the beginning, my skepticism about the official explanation of the Twin Towers collapses turned to spurning it as soon as I saw the videos of the WTC7 collapse, which reminds one of controlled demolition. When I heard that seismic waves had been emitted at the time of the 9/11 events, I looked for reliable data and examined the signals recorded at the Palisades station. The apparently contradictory parameters relative to wave velocities and frequencies were easily explained if we consider that the seismic waves were created by strong explosives. Those explosives could not be triggered other than manually. It is therefore a criminal provocation." -- Dr Andre Rousseau [Retired, former researcher in the French National Center of Scientific Research (CNRS)]
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I am ever so impressed by the depth of thought and the impressive discussion that goes into each and every Zero Evidence Club posting.

Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New
York on September 11, 2001?
By Dr. André Rousseau

...

First of all, we show the contradictions in the official explanation between the seismic data and the timing of the events.

Then we point out that it is strange that identical events (percussions of identical towers on the one hand, and collapses of
identical towers on the other hand) at the same location would have generated seismic sources of different magnitudes.

We demonstrate that only strong explosives could be the cause of such seismic waves, in accordance with the observed
low frequencies.

According to the nature of the recorded waves (body and surface waves), we can propose a location of each explosive
source. According to the presence of shear waves or the presence of Rayleigh waves only, we hypothesize a subterranean
or a subaerial explosion.

The magnitude of an aerial explosion is insufficient to provide seismic waves at 34 km.

The witnesses and video observation confirm our conclusions of subaerial explosions close to the times of aircraft
impacts on WTC1 and WTC2, a strong subterranean explosion closely correlated with the WTC1 collapse, and subaerial
explosions closely correlated with the WTC2 and WTC7 collapses, WTC7 not having been hit by a plane.

As a consequence, we draw the conclusion that the three buildings were demolished by a controlled process.


http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/RousseauVol34November2012.pdf
 
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If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles!

Nobody like that in the good ole US of A! Or Canada or Australia or the UK.

"It’s a riff on one of the central arguments in David Ray Griffin’s most recent book, Bush and Cheney: How They Ruined America and the World, which says that for the official account of 9/11 to be true, numerous physically impossible things would need to have taken place that day. Thus, to continue to believe the official account after one has been presented with the overwhelming evidence of its falsity is to believe in miracles."



There is one thing that retards who believe the government masterminded 911 can do to prove to people that the government masterminded 911 and used explosive to take down the trade towers. All those truffer-tards can pull their money together and build an exact copy of the trade towers and load it with the same type of office furniture, heating and AC units, and other **** to make sure the conditions were exact and buy a couple of the same type of planes that slammed into the trade towers on 911.After all that is done the truffer tards can fly those planes into those copies of the trade towers. If the buildings don't collapse then proves to the world that what birther-tards have been saying is true. If the buildings collapse then the world will laugh their asses off as the stupid birther-tards for wasting millions of their own money. I am sure birther-tards could start a go fund me account to make it happen. Heck if they don't have the millions of dollars needed to build full size exact copies of the trade towers they could make a one tenth scale model of the trade towers and just use the same materials but only scaled to one tenth their size.
 
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Ah James, your rage so influences your irrational claims and posts. Rage on Sir!
 
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There is one thing that

Actually, there are many things, James, that show that someone other than Arab hijackers pulled of 9/11. Molten/vaporized steel is an impossibility for the USGOCT. That it existed in the rubble of the TT and WTC7 means NO ARAB HIJACKERS.

US proprietary nanothermite found in WTC dust along with the by products of those nanothermite reactions means NO ARAB HIJACKERS.

Tell me, James, who does that leave but the owners of the nanothermite.
 
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There is one thing that retards who believe the government masterminded 911 can do to prove to people that the government masterminded 911 and used explosive to take down the trade towers. All those truffer-tards can pull their money together and build an exact copy of the trade towers and load it with the same type of office furniture, heating and AC units, and other **** to make sure the conditions were exact and buy a couple of the same type of planes that slammed into the trade towers on 911..

All that has been done, James. The original designers of the TT planned for that exact scenario.

Statements by Engineers
Engineers who participated in the design of the World Trade Center have stated, since the attack, that the Towers were designed to withstand jetliner collisions. For example, Leslie Robertson, who is featured on many documentaries about the attack, said he "designed it for a (Boeing) 707 to hit it." 2 Statements and documents predating the attack indicate that engineers considered the effects of not only of jetliner impacts, but also of ensuing fires.

John Skilling

John Skilling was the head structural engineer for the World Trade Center. In a 1993 interview, Skilling stated that the Towers were designed to withstand the impact and fires resulting from the collision of a large jetliner such as Boeing 707 or Douglas DC-8.

Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed, ... The building structure would still be there. 3
A white paper released on February 3, 1964 states that the Towers could have withstood impacts of jetliners travelling 600 mph -- a speed greater than the impact speed of either jetliner used on 9/11/01.

The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707—DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact. 4

9-11 Research: Towers' Design Parameters
 
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There is one thing that retards . . . All those truffer-tards .

Here's an idea that might pull you out of your self-induced retardation. On the video below, at either the 30 second or 1:12 mark, place a straightedge horizontally across the screen and line it up with the top of the building and then count the seconds it takes for the 360 feet of antenna to pass the marker. It will show that the upper block descends at a rate that is just forty feet shy of freefall. That means that the upper block passed through the core structure as if it weren't there. To be more precise, one structure magically passed through another structure of the exact same composition without so much as a visible jolt.

So, explain how the energy required to pulverize everything in the building below the impact zone, and the energy required to produce the explosive lateral ejections--as seen in photos and videos of the collapses--still allowed for enough reserve energy to allow for a virtually freefall descent through the course of most resistance--the core structure. This is where otherwise intelligent people will begin to show signs of the onset of retardation. But you don't have to worry about that because you're already there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
30 second mark, and 1:12 mark.
 
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Ah James, your rage so influences your irrational claims and posts. Rage on Sir!

16 years, no evidence for the claims supported by wild opinions from you or camlok. Got any evidence of damage to WTC steel by thermite yet? No. Any etic on that one? no
 
re: If you are dumb, evil, ignorant, crazy enough to believe the USGOCT, you believe in miracles![W:461]

Here's an idea that might pull you out of your self-induced retardation. On the video below, at either the 30 second or 1:12 mark, place a straightedge horizontally across the screen and line it up with the top of the building and then count the seconds it takes for the 360 feet of antenna to pass the marker. It will show that the upper block descends at a rate that is just forty feet shy of freefall. That means that the upper block passed through the core structure as if it weren't there. To be more precise, one structure magically passed through another structure of the exact same composition without so much as a visible jolt.

So, explain how the energy required to pulverize everything in the building below the impact zone, and the energy required to produce the explosive lateral ejections--as seen in photos and videos of the collapses--still allowed for enough reserve energy to allow for a virtually freefall descent through the course of most resistance--the core structure. This is where otherwise intelligent people will begin to show signs of the onset of retardation. But you don't have to worry about that because you're already there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
30 second mark, and 1:12 mark.
Its called a plane slamming into a building and weakening the structure that supports everything above it. It would be like if some fat **** was sitting a four legged chair and you kicked out one of those chair legs.The chair would give way and the fat **** would fall down.
 
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All that has been done, James. The original designers of the TT planned for that exact scenario.

As I said before build an exact replica of the trade towers, fly the same kind of jets into them and film it.What the designers allegedly said or didn't say doesn't mean squat. A home builder can build a house and say it can withstand a tornado.Doesn't mean it will withstand a tornado. Now if that same home builder built houses that have actually withstood tornadoes then that home builder's opinion actually means something on what it will withstand. Did those alleged designers build towers of the same exact construction before that actually withstood planes slamming into them? I would say that is a no.
 
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I like the Flat Earth conspiracy that's funnier.
 
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