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Second shooter arrested?? [W:37]

Captain America said:
Half of populations in all nations are below their median intelligence quotent.

That will never change. Math.

I realize you can't fix stupid. But we have some that are sooooo stupid, that they are too stupid to even know they're stupid. In fact, they often double-down on stupidity.

It can anger me and it can also break my heart.

Surrounded by stupid.
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Think what it is like for members of Mensa, in the top 2% intelligence wise. They spend their entire lives 'surrounded' by those who don't understand them.
 
Sweden said:
'Intellectual laziness'? I think you are being unfair. A very large portion, 50% to be precise, of your population is of below average intelligence. You have no right to expect them all to be other than ill-informed and gullible. I am in no way being flippant; the question of how best the less gifted can be involved in the workings of a democratic and open society is difficult.
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Not only is the average American at that 50 percentile point, ALL Americans have been steadily brainwashed by very good propagandists, for decades and generations.

Perhaps inherently gullible, but certainly deliberately misinformed.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Not only is the average American at that 50 percentile point, ALL Americans have been steadily brainwashed by very good propagandists, for decades and generations.

Perhaps inherently gullible, but certainly deliberately misinformed.
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You are describing yourself again
 
Sweden said:
Think what it is like for members of Mensa, in the top 2% intelligence wise. They spend their entire lives 'surrounded' by those who don't understand them.
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It's pure hell.
 
MaggieD said:
I just pulled it up on Snopes. False. How do these organizations get away with this??

Edit. And does YouTube share any responsibility here?
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No. YouTube shares no responsibility for someone else using their platform to post this video, nor should they.
 
Sweden said:
Think what it is like for members of Mensa, in the top 2% intelligence wise. They spend their entire lives 'surrounded' by those who don't understand them.
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That's why people who are mensa act the way they do:

mensa is the feminine form of menso and roughly translates to stupid.
menso
stupid, fool
Dictionary
menso
ADJECTIVE
1. (colloquial) (dumb) (Latin America)
a. stupid (stronger)
No seas menso. No dejes pasar esta oportunidad.Don't be stupid. Don't miss out on this opportunity.
b. silly (milder)
Qué menso eres, pero sí me hiciste reír.You're so silly, but you really made me laugh.
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zyzygy said:
The organization was originally called Mens but the magazine they produced was often mistaken for the magazine Men Only so the name was changed to Mensa, table.
Western New York Mensa
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For those of us who live where there are a lot of Hispanics, it was an unfortunate, if humorous name change.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Ah, so typical for the internet. Ignore the solid math and attack the messenger. Got it!

With posts like this demonstrating rejection of science and math while supporting the story told by known liars, you might consider a name OTHER THAN commons sense. :peace

My bet is you never watched the analysis.
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Like the old saying says: "There's a sucker born every minute."

"Adams admitted he has not had formal training, but insists it is basic math."
Adams admits: “I’ve never had any formal training in forensic acoustic analysis".

The guard was not arrested and Adams knows nothing about forensic acoustic analysis by his own admission!!

Case closed!
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Like the old saying says: "There's a sucker born every minute."

"Adams admitted he has not had formal training, but insists it is basic math."
Adams admits: “I’ve never had any formal training in forensic acoustic analysis".

The guard was not arrested and Adams knows nothing about forensic acoustic analysis by his own admission!!

Case closed!
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And has been closed for a long time.
 
zyzygy said:
And has been closed for a long time.
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Doesn't matter if something is proven to be false if it supports a CT then Cters will believe it.
As we have seen Cters are able to believe several mutually exclusive Cts all at the same time so why would a proven lie not be accepted?
Logic,reason, evidence and fact have no place in a Cter world view
 
Sweden said:
Think what it is like for members of Mensa, in the top 2% intelligence wise. They spend their entire lives 'surrounded' by those who don't understand them.
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I know, right?!?

Those that think they know it all makes us, who actually DO know it all, look bad. LOL!
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Like the old saying says: "There's a sucker born every minute."

"Adams admitted he has not had formal training, but insists it is basic math."
Adams admits: “I’ve never had any formal training in forensic acoustic analysis".

The guard was not arrested and Adams knows nothing about forensic acoustic analysis by his own admission!!

Case closed!
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Always attack the messenger, and NEVER discuss substance. Mission Accomplished sir!

When the argument is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Always attack the messenger, and NEVER discuss substance. Mission Accomplished sir!

When the argument is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
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Then please stop trying to spin the story!! Adams discredited himself with his own words!!
Look up the meaning of slander..... Don't use words that you don't understand.

And again the guard was NOT arrested.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Then please stop trying to spin the story!! Adams discredited himself with his own words!!
Look up the meaning of slander..... Don't use words that you don't understand.

And again the guard was NOT arrested.
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We might be having a case of bad communication here, and certainly part of that is my fault.

I'm glad the guard was not arrested. If you say he wasn't, that's fine by me.

Adams' work is a separate event. May I ask if you have watched it?
 
Back to the OP.

Who here believes the OP vid of "Breaking News"?

The OP vid shows how easy it is for someone to make and post a vid. imo, it is blatantly false. People need to check what sources they use.
 
Interesting research paper dealing with gunshot recordings for forensic purposes. One reason I am a bit skeptical of Adams analysis. Recordings done on cell phones then uploaded to the internet, then downloaded for his analysis.


"Forensic recordings obtained with less reliable microphones in complicated acoustical surroundings will undoubtedly contain information that is problematic for valid, confident interpretation. The high sound levels associated with gunshots will generally overload the microphone and its associated electronics, causing signal distortion and ringing in the recorded signal that may be difficult to separate from the acoustic evidence itself. Situations in which the recording microphone has an acoustically obstructed view of the firearm or the bullet's shock wave (for supersonic projectiles) can also be difficult to explain from the simple geometrical arguments used in this paper. "

"Therefore, the forensic audio examiner is advised to obtain meaningful and corroborating experimental support before drawing conclusions from recorded gunshot evidence. "


http://www.montana.edu/rmaher/publications/maher_aesconf_0608_1-8.pdf
 
mike2810 said:
Interesting research paper dealing with gunshot recordings for forensic purposes. One reason I am a bit skeptical of Adams analysis. Recordings done on cell phones then uploaded to the internet, then downloaded for his analysis.


"Forensic recordings obtained with less reliable microphones in complicated acoustical surroundings will undoubtedly contain information that is problematic for valid, confident interpretation. The high sound levels associated with gunshots will generally overload the microphone and its associated electronics, causing signal distortion and ringing in the recorded signal that may be difficult to separate from the acoustic evidence itself. Situations in which the recording microphone has an acoustically obstructed view of the firearm or the bullet's shock wave (for supersonic projectiles) can also be difficult to explain from the simple geometrical arguments used in this paper. "

"Therefore, the forensic audio examiner is advised to obtain meaningful and corroborating experimental support before drawing conclusions from recorded gunshot evidence. "


http://www.montana.edu/rmaher/publications/maher_aesconf_0608_1-8.pdf
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It is irrelevant all that HD cares about is someone claiming the ebil US govt is covering something up. Because you know the Ebil US govt is behind every single bad thing that has happened since Julius Caesar.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Then please stop trying to spin the story!! Adams discredited himself with his own words!!
Look up the meaning of slander..... Don't use words that you don't understand.

And again the guard was NOT arrested.
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Oh dear, our Top Gun flight instructor doesn't know the difference between libel and slander.
 
mike2810 said:
Interesting research paper dealing with gunshot recordings for forensic purposes. One reason I am a bit skeptical of Adams analysis. Recordings done on cell phones then uploaded to the internet, then downloaded for his analysis.


"Forensic recordings obtained with less reliable microphones in complicated acoustical surroundings will undoubtedly contain information that is problematic for valid, confident interpretation. The high sound levels associated with gunshots will generally overload the microphone and its associated electronics, causing signal distortion and ringing in the recorded signal that may be difficult to separate from the acoustic evidence itself. Situations in which the recording microphone has an acoustically obstructed view of the firearm or the bullet's shock wave (for supersonic projectiles) can also be difficult to explain from the simple geometrical arguments used in this paper. "

"Therefore, the forensic audio examiner is advised to obtain meaningful and corroborating experimental support before drawing conclusions from recorded gunshot evidence. "


http://www.montana.edu/rmaher/publications/maher_aesconf_0608_1-8.pdf
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That is certainly a good and valid point Mike, regarding the accuracy of the location of the microphone recording the data being analyzed. I do certainly agree.

But the point is that Adams is not the LVPD, he is a private citizen. He has no subpoena power you know. It might be too late now, and probably is, but he cannot go out and gather brass or anything else as evidence as the police can.

He used what was available, and in the end that is "close enough for government work" as they say, and it may be sufficiently accurate.

Working as a private citizen, which has been a standard since the coverup of 911, he has contributed more to an understanding of what really happened there than 3 weeks worth of police work and changing statements. His is the most rational and meaningful analysis yet presented in the public forum in these 3 weeks. Read it and weep.
 
Thoreau72 said:
That is certainly a good and valid point Mike, regarding the accuracy of the location of the microphone recording the data being analyzed. I do certainly agree.

But the point is that Adams is not the LVPD, he is a private citizen. He has no subpoena power you know. It might be too late now, and probably is, but he cannot go out and gather brass or anything else as evidence as the police can.

He used what was available, and in the end that is "close enough for government work" as they say, and it may be sufficiently accurate.

Working as a private citizen, which has been a standard since the coverup of 911, he has contributed more to an understanding of what really happened there than 3 weeks worth of police work and changing statements. His is the most rational and meaningful analysis yet presented in the public forum in these 3 weeks. Read it and weep.
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I don't believe you ever stated your opinion on the OP vid. Is it true or not?

imo, it is not true. It does show how easy a false vid can convince people of untrue event as a fact.
 
mike2810 said:
I don't believe you ever stated your opinion on the OP vid. Is it true or not?

imo, it is not true. It does show how easy a false vid can convince people of untrue event as a fact.
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I must have posted something on this, and I can't remember what. I usually don't reach a conclusion or form an opinion until some time has passed. I'm pretty sure I was skeptical, but now we have the luxury of some degree of hindsight. It seems they can't find Campos now, according to rumor and scuttlebutt. I don't even care, because it's bloody well clear that the official story is bunk.

There were at least 2 shooters, and it appears the feds and the locals are doing some sort of waltz behind the scenes.

It will be interesting to see how this ever plays out, but for now it's clear this is just another staged event brought to us by whomever it is that brings these things.

My hunch is that the feds are doing the hiding, and the locals are trying to figure out what to do. A crisis of conscience perhaps, and a conspiracy of silence.

Yes, people are so indoctrinated they mostly believe whatever they see and are told, as long as the teller is an authority figure. Look at Scott Pelley at San Bernardino for a perfect demonstration of that effect. "but the authorities told us it was a man and his wife". Scott is so gullible.
 
Thoreau72 said:
I must have posted something on this, and I can't remember what. I usually don't reach a conclusion or form an opinion until some time has passed. I'm pretty sure I was skeptical, but now we have the luxury of some degree of hindsight. It seems they can't find Campos now, according to rumor and scuttlebutt. I don't even care, because it's bloody well clear that the official story is bunk.

There were at least 2 shooters, and it appears the feds and the locals are doing some sort of waltz behind the scenes.

It will be interesting to see how this ever plays out, but for now it's clear this is just another staged event brought to us by whomever it is that brings these things.

My hunch is that the feds are doing the hiding, and the locals are trying to figure out what to do. A crisis of conscience perhaps, and a conspiracy of silence.

Yes, people are so indoctrinated they mostly believe whatever they see and are told, as long as the teller is an authority figure. Look at Scott Pelley at San Bernardino for a perfect demonstration of that effect. "but the authorities told us it was a man and his wife". Scott is so gullible.
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Seems you jump to conclusions and conclude the worse.

:“Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing,” spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in a written statement. “He’s asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus.”:

Casino company seems to be in touch with missing security guard Jesus Campos - LA Times

Got ask you T. Would you want to be hounded by the press? (msm or not).

Since you seem to denigrate those who do not have your view, maybe , just maybe, it is you who has been indoctrinated to believe the sources you use. You say your a free thinker. Maybe that is what your sources want you to believe. :peace
 
mike2810 said:
Seems you jump to conclusions and conclude the worse.

:“Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing,” spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in a written statement. “He’s asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus.”:

Casino company seems to be in touch with missing security guard Jesus Campos - LA Times

Got ask you T. Would you want to be hounded by the press? (msm or not).

Since you seem to denigrate those who do not have your view, maybe , just maybe, it is you who has been indoctrinated to believe the sources you use. You say your a free thinker. Maybe that is what your sources want you to believe. :peace
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To which conclusion have I jumped Mike, and how is it the worst?
 
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