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Dispelling Myths: The "Impossible Maneuver"

mike2810 said:
So the answer is, I have no sources and if I did I will not post them. Got it.
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It seems you can't even read, mike. Thoreau distinctly said, "One cannot have an adult conversation with a person in denial".

All the USGOCT conspiracy theorists are in deep denial, so much so that they can't and won't even admit that they have no evidence to support their evidence free USGOCT.
 
mike2810 said:
So the answer is, I have no sources and if I did I will not post them. Got it.
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No, the answer is that armchair pilots declaring themselves experts are amusing, and that rational and adult conversations with such are impossible.
 
Thoreau72 said:
No, the answer is that armchair pilots declaring themselves experts are amusing, and that rational and adult conversations with such are impossible.
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Yes you are amusing and having a rational conversation with you is impossible
We prove you wrong all the time but you never let reality get in your way
Still waiting for you to explain your ground effet comments
If you had an actual rational argument to make on it you would but since all you do is run away it is obvious you dont have one.

Mind you We already knew that because the comment is bogus, if you were actually a "flight instructor" you would know that
But you dont because you aren't
 
Thoreau72 said:
No, the answer is that armchair pilots declaring themselves experts are amusing, and that rational and adult conversations with such are impossible.
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Yet, we are to accept your word of your pilot qualifications.
 
mike2810 said:
Yet, we are to accept your word of your pilot qualifications.
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You were chiding Thoreau for no evidence, mike, but you abandoned that tact because you USGOCT conspiracy theorists are always evidence free.

I'm sure Thoreau doesn't give a flying **** whether you believe him or not. He has seen so many myriad times how patently dishonest the USGOCT conspiracy theorists are.
 
camlok said:
You were chiding Thoreau for no evidence, mike, but you abandoned that tact because you USGOCT conspiracy theorists are always evidence free.

I'm sure Thoreau doesn't give a flying **** whether you believe him or not. He has seen so many myriad times how patently dishonest the USGOCT conspiracy theorists are.
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You know, I don't care what you post. The point is T72 is trying to make the case that non pilots cannot understand the flight maneuver. Then it stands to reason T72 cannot understand fire, building mechanics, etc. because he is only a claimed pilot.
 
mike2810 said:
You know, I don't care what you post.

That just shows that you do care, a lot.

The point is T72 is trying to make the case that non pilots cannot understand the flight maneuver.

The point he is making is that non pilots do not have a grasp of the difficulties that trained fighter pilots/line pilots say is impossible for these alleged hijackers for which you can't even prove their existence and you won't look at any evidence. That is major cognitive dissonance.


Then it stands to reason T72 cannot understand fire, building mechanics, etc. because he is only a claimed pilot.
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That is merely your illogical assumption, one of many.
 
camlok said:
That is merely your illogical assumption, one of many.
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Funny.

Actually cam, post like yours just shows how correct I am.

Have a good one. :drink
 
mike2810 said:
Funny.

Actually cam, post like yours just shows how correct I am.
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Fleeing again, mike. This is exactly what USGOCT conspiracy theorists do. No evidence exists for the USGOCT so you have to flee.
 
For some this answers the question regarding the commercial flight that some say did not hit the Pentagon.

"This is about independent, verifiable evidence which unfortunately happens to conclusively establish as a historical fact that the violence which took place in Arlington that day was not the result of a surprise attack by suicide hijackers, but rather a false flag "black operation" involving a carefully planned and skillfully executed deception."

Citizen Investigation Team | 9/11 Pentagon

Let us not forget Pilots for 9/11 Truth.

American 77 (Pentagon) @ pilotsfor911truth.org

"My conclusion is, the manever looks possible, for guys like me and you. But for Hani? unlikely. He either got REALLY lucky, or someone/something else was flying that plane. Sure wish we had clear video of a 757 hitting the pentagon to silence all these "Conspiracy theorists"
 
mike2810 said:
Yet, we are to accept your word of your pilot qualifications.
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No sir, you are under no obligation to accept or believe a single word I say.

I know you won't, and that merely proves the point that most people reject truth if it works against their views. Old news indeed.
 
Thoreau72 said:
No sir, you are under no obligation to accept or believe a single word I say.

I know you won't, and that merely proves the point that most people reject truth if it works against their views. Old news indeed.
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True. You reject anything that goes against the views you have

I do agree, we have no obligation to accept what anyone posts on this and other sites.
 
Ouch, that hurts! :mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
Did you not accept T72 and Capt. Bob word without a blink, hey cam.?
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Stop being childish, mike. It was you who pulled this same trick on Thoreau. While I may accept those who haven't shown a propensity to lie, obfuscate, divert and distract easier than those who have, I always check things out for myself.

I don't throw out science, logic, critical thinking skills like a lot of the USGOCT conspiracy theorists do. Just compare a Thoreau post to any USOCT conspiracy theorists' posts and you will understand, even when you refuse to.
 
camlok said:
Stop being childish, mike. It was you who pulled this same trick on Thoreau. While I may accept those who haven't shown a propensity to lie, obfuscate, divert and distract easier than those who have, I always check things out for myself.

I don't throw out science, logic, critical thinking skills like a lot of the USGOCT conspiracy theorists do. Just compare a Thoreau post to any USOCT conspiracy theorists' posts and you will understand, even when you refuse to.
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No trick, cam. It is just does nothing to state if a person is not a pilot they cannot comprehend or understand how an aircraft performs. That is not true. Look at your own posts. Are you a pilot?. Have you flown commercial airlines?

If you really don't " throw out science, logic, critical thinking skills", then why is it so hard for you to post sources and answer questions asked?

In older threads I have stated what my aviation experience is. If you are curious, search for it.
 
mike2810 said:
No trick, cam. It is just does nothing to state if a person is not a pilot they cannot comprehend or understand how an aircraft performs. That is not true. Look at your own posts. Are you a pilot?. Have you flown commercial airlines?

Your barrage of questions illustrates that you know exactly how hypocritical you were being. You caught yourself out and you aren't big enough to admit it. No problem. I didn't expect better.

If you really don't " throw out science, logic, critical thinking skills", then why is it so hard for you to post sources and answer questions asked?

Now you have caught yourself out again. You have never provided any evidence for the USGOCT in any direct fashion.

In older threads I have stated what my aviation experience is. If you are curious, search for it.
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What on earth has this got to do with your aviation experience? You are totally discombobulated, working yourself into high anxiety.
 
mike2810 said:
What is your point? I just used your style of posting. If you don't like it, try answering questions asked.
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I answered your questions but you chickened out on mine.
 
camlok said:
I answered your questions but you chickened out on mine.
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Pot, meet kettle.

How come you haven't answered mine regarding Wittenbergs's incorrect statements?
 
camlok said:
What on earth has this got to do with your aviation experience? You are totally discombobulated, working yourself into high anxiety.
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That sort of behavior is standard fare when one chooses to attempt to defend and indefensible story. It is easier to trick a man than it is to explain to him how he's been tricked. Humans are funny sometimes.
 
Thoreau72 said:
That sort of behavior is standard fare when one chooses to attempt to defend and indefensible story. It is easier to trick a man than it is to explain to him how he's been tricked. Humans are funny sometimes.
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Kind of like you being tricked into believing Wittenberg's conclusions which are based on wrong information. Funny how you and camlok don't want to touch this with a ten foot pole.

I wonder why.
 
Thoreau72 said:
That sort of behavior is standard fare when one chooses to attempt to defend and indefensible story. It is easier to trick a man than it is to explain to him how he's been tricked. Humans are funny sometimes.
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You are self describing again
 
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