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Solar eclipse prediction

Will we experience a solar eclipse on Monday, August 21?

  • Yes, but the path of totality will deviate by more than half a mile from the predictions.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, but the times of totality will be off by more than a second.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, but both the path and times will be off as described above.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .

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On Monday, August 21, a long but narrow path of the United States will be graced by one of the solar system's most beautiful and eerie phenomena: A total eclipse of the sun. The exact timing and path of this eclipse has been known for many decades, maybe even a century or more. In fact, if you go over to NASA's website, you can see a list of eclipses ranging before the Egyptian pyramids were built to nearly a millennium into the future.

None of these descriptions or predictions would be possible without an intimate knowledge of the mass and shape of the Earth, moon, sun, and the respective orbits of all the major planetary bodies. If, for example, by some bizarre coincidence, the Earth really were flat, or egg-shaped, or whatever the latest CT were, that alone would change the path of the eclipse. Of course, that assumes that the eclipse would even occur in the first place. But none of this really matters because the moon does revolve around the Earth in a tidally-locked orbit, and the Earth is round and it does revolve around the sun. All of these things and many more have to occur to even have a chance to correctly predict eclipses for at least a millennium out.

It's pretty sad that any of these facts have to be mentioned, but even in this day and age of free and open knowledge, a tiny few group of people seem hellbent on not accepting it.

(P.S. The poll options include for deviations far, far greater than the computer models will produce, but I am including them for the sake of very simple standards.)
 
On Monday, August 21, a long but narrow path of the United States will be graced by one of the solar system's most beautiful and eerie phenomena: A total eclipse of the sun. The exact timing and path of this eclipse has been known for many decades, maybe even a century or more. In fact, if you go over to NASA's website, you can see a list of eclipses ranging before the Egyptian pyramids were built to nearly a millennium into the future.

None of these descriptions or predictions would be possible without an intimate knowledge of the mass and shape of the Earth, moon, sun, and the respective orbits of all the major planetary bodies. If, for example, by some bizarre coincidence, the Earth really were flat, or egg-shaped, or whatever the latest CT were, that alone would change the path of the eclipse. Of course, that assumes that the eclipse would even occur in the first place. But none of this really matters because the moon does revolve around the Earth in a tidally-locked orbit, and the Earth is round and it does revolve around the sun. All of these things and many more have to occur to even have a chance to correctly predict eclipses for at least a millennium out.

It's pretty sad that any of these facts have to be mentioned, but even in this day and age of free and open knowledge, a tiny few group of people seem hellbent on not accepting it.

(P.S. The poll options include for deviations far, far greater than the computer models will produce, but I am including them for the sake of very simple standards.)

This reminds me of what Neil deGrasse Tyson tweeted about it:

"Odd. No one is in denial of America's Aug 21 total solar eclipse. Like Climate Change, methods & tools of science predict it."

- Neil Tyson

I voted yes, and the times and locations will match the predictions.
 
I voted yes too. A friend is driving all the way to Missouri, near Branson, to observe and photograph. Aviation news is reporting that many are flying to various destinations along the line.

I'm staying home. :)
 
And we had the eclipse!
 
We had an eclipse here in England, but it was just rainclouds again!
 
how can we know the eclipse happened if no one can look directly into the sun??
 
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