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Charlottesville: Dems in Govt. may have set a trap for Unite-the-Right

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It is possible, and details are starting to come out, that the Charlotteville riot may have been a Leftie designed setup:

John Hawkins' Right Wing News | Page not found




This doesn't at all mean that the deaths were intended, or forseen.

But, clearly, there was far more going on to create the conditions in which the tragic outcome occurred, than previously thought.



Will the MSM ever investigate the possibility? Or will they just shill for the Dems viewpoint ONLY?

Should those who setup a confrontation that became fatal be held accountable?

Can they be held accountable, legally, in any way other than voting against them and the Democratic Party?

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I do love a good conspiracy theory. Don't you?
 
It is possible, and details are starting to come out, that the Charlotteville riot may have been a Leftie designed setup:

John Hawkins' Right Wing News | Page not found




This doesn't at all mean that the deaths were intended, or forseen.

But, clearly, there was far more going on to create the conditions in which the tragic outcome occurred, than previously thought.



Will the MSM ever investigate the possibility? Or will they just shill for the Dems viewpoint ONLY?

Should those who setup a confrontation that became fatal be held accountable?

Can they be held accountable, legally, in any way other than voting against them and the Democratic Party?

-


Well that didn't take long
 
Hey, whatever it takes to distract from the right-wing terrorist attack, yesterday. :lol:
 
"A car plows through a crowd all because they couldn't give us a peaceful assembly!"


...And I'm done with this trash.
 
It is possible, and details are starting to come out, that the Charlotteville riot may have been a Leftie designed setup:

John Hawkins' Right Wing News | Page not found




This doesn't at all mean that the deaths were intended, or forseen.

But, clearly, there was far more going on to create the conditions in which the tragic outcome occurred, than previously thought.



Will the MSM ever investigate the possibility? Or will they just shill for the Dems viewpoint ONLY?

Should those who setup a confrontation that became fatal be held accountable?

Can they be held accountable, legally, in any way other than voting against them and the Democratic Party?

-


It is a good thing liberals are strong! We have to shoulder the responsibility for ourselves, and conservatives.
 
It is possible, and details are starting to come out, that the Charlotteville riot may have been a Leftie designed setup:

John Hawkins' Right Wing News | Page not found




This doesn't at all mean that the deaths were intended, or forseen.

But, clearly, there was far more going on to create the conditions in which the tragic outcome occurred, than previously thought.



Will the MSM ever investigate the possibility? Or will they just shill for the Dems viewpoint ONLY?

Should those who setup a confrontation that became fatal be held accountable?

Can they be held accountable, legally, in any way other than voting against them and the Democratic Party?

-


The OP is completely wrong and is a complete CT.
 
It is possible, and details are starting to come out, that the Charlotteville riot may have been a Leftie designed setup:

John Hawkins' Right Wing News | Page not found




This doesn't at all mean that the deaths were intended, or forseen.

But, clearly, there was far more going on to create the conditions in which the tragic outcome occurred, than previously thought.



Will the MSM ever investigate the possibility? Or will they just shill for the Dems viewpoint ONLY?

Should those who setup a confrontation that became fatal be held accountable?

Can they be held accountable, legally, in any way other than voting against them and the Democratic Party?

-


That was a long but kind of interesting video of their phone call. Some of the problem is being covered in the media -- like the absence of city police presence. That is odd, given the fact that the protest was generating so much attention and vitriol before it even occurred.

It sounds as if there's going to be a lawsuit against the City and that will draw some attention, and at some point, we may see some local officers explain why they, personally, were not sent to the protest as agreed upon.

What is apparent is that someone, but that could be just about anyone in a decision-making position, did not come through on providing the agreed-upon police presence.

That is odd, but until we know how it happened, we won't know why it happened. Since there was a death we may see more media interest.

The canceling of the group's permit was made public. I'd read about that last week, and about how the the ACLU stepped in and sued the City so the alt-Right protest could continue.

Where I think the group probably has a case is when the protest reached the statue and Antifa was already there around the base of the statue. That's really unconscionable for law enforcement to have allowed that, given that the Right group had the permit to be there, not Antifa. I would think protesters AND counter-protesters who were injured would have a case against the City.

The State Police stepped up, however, and that was good, but there does appear to be a problem in the upper echelons of the City.

This will be interesting to watch.
 
Hey, whatever it takes to distract from the right-wing terrorist attack, yesterday. :lol:

You really ought to watch the video. It doesn't distract from the attack, it simply questions where the City Police were at an earlier point in time.
 
You really ought to watch the video. It doesn't distract from the attack, it simply questions where the City Police were at an earlier point in time.

I watched the video up to the point where they blamed the terrorist attack on the police. Not going to continue listening to such garbage.
 
There is no possibility other than the neo-nazi who drove the car is guilty.

The centers that monitor neo-nazis now are, I think, are monitoring and recording talk boards and message boards and blogs for identities of those writing in defense of the neo-nazis.
 
Blood is on the hands of the city council members who elected to take that statue down. Otherwise none of this would have happened.
 
There is no possibility other than the neo-nazi who drove the car is guilty.

The centers that monitor neo-nazis now are, I think, are monitoring and recording talk boards and message boards and blogs for identities of those writing in defense of the neo-nazis.

As it should be since you are with the nazi scum or you are against them. There is no other honorable position.
 
Blood is on the hands of the city council members who elected to take that statue down. Otherwise none of this would have happened.

And all this past century and a half decent patriotic Americans thought the blood was on the hands of those people portrayed in the statues of those who committed treason and tried to destroy the United States of America so they could keep slavery flourishing.
 
Blood is on the hands of the city council members who elected to take that statue down. Otherwise none of this would have happened.

I.E. murder is justified if the local politicians don't do exactly what you want them to. It wasn't the nazi's fault for running over those people, really it's the politicians! :roll:


When you condone violence over a statue you don't get to pretend your side isn't violent.
 
Blood is on the hands of the city council members who elected to take that statue down. Otherwise none of this would have happened.

That is an excellent point.
 
Blood is on the hands of the city council members who elected to take that statue down. Otherwise none of this would have happened.
The blood is on the hands of those who refuse to accept the CW was a dark stain on American history, that it was horror not heritage, and that the statues belong in a museum.

The hatred of the Alt Right will be replaced.
 
seriously doubt this was a setupby democrats and there is no excuse or justification for what appears to be a pure act of domestic terrorism by a violent white supremacist. His actions...his choices.

That being said....

Who were the 'violent Alt Right' fighting with?

This is the norm in America today. Antifa can commit acts of violence and go unchallenged by leftist politicians. Throughout the election cycle there were numerous acts of violence...and the only acts of violence the left cared to speak of were the occasional incidents at Trump rallies. It is now standard practice to declare that when a group you disagree with announces their intent to peacefully protest, that protest must be met with violent resistance. I despise all racist organizations and their actions...but recognize their right to exist and protest. There were no innocent victims yesterday.
 
I watched the video up to the point where they blamed the terrorist attack on the police. Not going to continue listening to such garbage.

That's not really what they said, but, suit yourself. Sometimes, it's easier (or perhaps more fun) for folks to stick fingers in ears and sing la, la, la....
 
"Antifa" refers to right wing fascists and left wing opponents of free speech.

The Alt Right needs to understand that if it brings its fascism, white supremacism, white nationalism, ethnocentrism, racialism, nativism, and anti democracy out for a physical rumble, it will be smashed down every time.

The loony left needs to understand that LEO will kick its loony butt between its collective ears so that it can hear the LEO beating on its ass.
 
There is no possibility other than the neo-nazi who drove the car is guilty.

The centers that monitor neo-nazis now are, I think, are monitoring and recording talk boards and message boards and blogs for identities of those writing in defense of the neo-nazis.

They monitor extremism around the clock. They didn't start just now. But, it's unlikely they're monitoring folks who defend the alt-Right anymore than they're monitoring folks who defend the violent Left.
 
They monitor extremism around the clock. They didn't start just now. But, it's unlikely they're monitoring folks who defend the alt-Right anymore than they're monitoring folks who defend the violent Left.
As long as they are monitoring, recording, and identifying those who espouse violence against our democratic system and sharing it with LEO.
 
As long as they are monitoring, recording, and identifying those who espouse violence against our democratic system and sharing it with LEO.


They're not.

LOL

Algorithms are in place to pick up on specific terms, or strings of words, but no one really has any time or inclination to actively monitor people who express opinions but don't rise to the level of actively planning trouble.

And, they rarely share their info with local police. I know. My family works in law enforcement. Local police, however, have the ability to monitor certain things themselves, such as phone calls capture by Stingray surveillance.

What I'm seeing on this forum, however, is an attempt to frighten posters who might present unpopular opinions. That's just hokey.
 
They're not.

LOL

Algorithms are in place to pick up on specific terms, or strings of words, but no one really has any time or inclination to actively monitor people who express opinions but don't rise to the level of actively planning trouble.

And, they rarely share their info with local police. I know. My family works in law enforcement. Local police, however, have the ability to monitor certain things themselves, such as phone calls capture by Stingray surveillance.

What I'm seeing on this forum, however, is an attempt to frighten posters who might present unpopular opinions. That's just hokey.
Believe as you wish. :)
 
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