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Frank Greening's Latest dust study

Funny how no one else can duplicate Harrit findings. Where is Basile's study that he was going to have an independent lab test the sample? He promised months ago.

Funny how Harrit himself stated it would take a minimum of 29,000 metric tons of the nanothermite he claims he found for each building. Some high tech military grade nanothermite you believe was used.

That's nothing. No one can duplicate or validate NIST or any other part of the official fairy tale. That's why any person being honest with himself can see it to be a magnificent deception.
 
Nope, the only known source for nanothermite, the US government/military. It is, among myriad other things that you are too frightened to address, what totally sinks the USGOCT.
There was none found at the WTC site. Why is this a discussion for you?
 
That's nothing. No one can duplicate or validate NIST or any other part of the official fairy tale. That's why any person being honest with himself can see it to be a magnificent deception.
That's right Thoreau72! Keep fanning those conspiracy flames! Be careful not say anything negative against any other conspiracy theory. You need your allies in this battle against the government no matter if you think what they say s garbage or not.

That's the conspiracy theorist way right?

"The enemy of enemy is my friend"...
 
That's nothing. No one can duplicate or validate NIST or any other part of the official fairy tale. That's why any person being honest with himself can see it to be a magnificent deception.

Not true T, the computer models findings can be duplicated. :mrgreen:

As far as fairy tale, let us not forget your nanothermite needing to assist a mini neutron bomb to collapse the buildings.

Of course your post is a straw man argument.
 
Nope. Your believe is not supported by the facts.

You don't know what facts are. You USGOCT conspiracy theorists abhor facts. You are only distractions/diversions/lies kind of folks.

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade
Center Catastrophe

Niels H. Harrit*,1, Jeffrey Farrer2, Steven E. Jones*,3, Kevin R. Ryan4, Frank M. Legge5, Daniel Farnsworth2, Gregg Roberts6, James R. Gourley7 and Bradley R. Larsen3


Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples.

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The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material.

When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 ˚C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips.

The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.


https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

Thermitic material had no, that's zero legal/legitimate reason to be in WTC dust. The manner in which it is found and its unique by products obviously points to it being used as [at least] one of the explosives that brought down WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

In contrast to this desert of information, [said "desert of information for the USGOCT; witness how you USGOCT conspiracy theorists have never been able to provide any evidence for the USGOCT] the claim that the towers were brought down by controlled demolition has a wealth of accompanying argument. There are many pieces of evidence, all of which can easily be fitted into a meaningful explanation that shows a logical train of events and giving cause and effect for each of those evidential instances. - Gordon Ross, BSc ME, M.Eng
 
You don't know what facts are. You USGOCT conspiracy theorists abhor facts. You are only distractions/diversions/lies kind of folks.



Thermitic material had no, that's zero legal/legitimate reason to be in WTC dust. The manner in which it is found and its unique by products obviously points to it being used as [at least] one of the explosives that brought down WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

Once again cam you post opinion. One could say you do not know facts. You ignore anything that goes against your views. You add nothing to the discussion.

Explain why NHarrit stated it would take a minimum of 29,000 tons of the stuff he found to produce the results? Is there not a more efficient way to take a building down by controlled demolition?
 
Not true T, the computer models findings can be duplicated. :mrgreen:

As far as fairy tale, let us not forget your nanothermite needing to assist a mini neutron bomb to collapse the buildings.

Of course your post is a straw man argument.

They can be duplicated only by suspending the laws of physics as we know them. Several "debunking" sites have done exactly that.
 
Once again cam you post opinion. One could say you do not know facts. You ignore anything that goes against your views. You add nothing to the discussion.

You are self describing again, mike.

Explain why NHarrit stated it would take a minimum of 29,000 tons of the stuff he found to produce the results? Is there not a more efficient way to take a building down by controlled demolition?

Right after you advance your ludicrous notion above, you leap into your latest "dog with rag doll" meme, which you have been beating to death with nothing but, and this is so ironic, your own uninformed opinion. Opinions which you guys advance as if they have some merit, which they do not. They are your diversions and distractions to attempt to hide your zero evidence for your USGOCT.
 
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Thank you.

You shouldn't try to do nuance, mike because you obviously don't know much about the English language either.

A highly typical "full of evidence" USGOCT conspiracy theorist's post.

And you admit that you are a bona fide USGOCT conspiracy theorist. The one with zero evidence to support it.
 
It is a very tough row to hoe, defending the indefensible.
 
Once again cam you post opinion.

The Harrit et al scientific paper is not opinion, mike, it is established scientific fact. It has never been refuted by any peer reviewed paper. Unless maybe, just maybe you can refer me to one from the "scientist" you have totally abandoned, Professor Greening.

How come you folks never provide anything remotely close to what one could consider evidence from what no name scientists that you get your uninformed diversions and distractions from?
 
It is a very tough row to hoe, defending the indefensible.

It is indeed, Thoreau, but these folks don't even know the weeds from the vegetables. All their garden has is weeds?
 
Right after you advance your ludicrous notion above, you leap into your latest "dog with rag doll" meme, which you have been beating to death with nothing but, and this is so ironic, your own uninformed opinion. Opinions which you guys advance as if they have some merit, which they do not. They are your diversions and distractions to attempt to hide your zero evidence for your USGOCT.

Translation: No I can't answer the questions.
 
Translation: No I can't answer the questions.

You don't need to translate mike's posts, mike. I know mike's tricks, diversions, distractions.
 
The Harrit et al scientific paper is not opinion, mike, it is established scientific fact. It has never been refuted by any peer reviewed paper. Unless maybe, just maybe you can refer me to one from the "scientist" you have totally abandoned, Professor Greening.

How come you folks never provide anything remotely close to what one could consider evidence from what no name scientists that you get your uninformed diversions and distractions from?

Define "evidence". Seems you have been presented with a great deal. You choose to ignore, not respond to questions, or come up with some straw man tactic.
 
Define "evidence". Seems you have been presented with a great deal. You choose to ignore, not respond to questions, or come up with some straw man tactic.

You need this kind of help, mike, you're far beyond it. You talk about evidence but you don't know the meaning, hence you need to ask for a definition.

Just more of your diversions and distractions.

Where are all your USGOCT experts? God almighty, you are all too frightened to even quote NIST.

Like evidence for the USGOCT, there are none.
 
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The Harrit et al scientific paper is not opinion, mike, it is established scientific fact. It has never been refuted by any peer reviewed paper.
James Millette's paper has never been refuted by a peer reviewed paper either. He concludes the chips are not thermite/nano-thermite.
 
You need this kind of help, mike, you're far beyond it. You talk about evidence but you don't know the meaning, hence you need to ask for a definition.

Just more of your diversions and distractions.

Where are all your USGOCT experts? God almighty, you are all too frightened to even quote NIST.

Like evidence for the USGOCT, there are none.

The reason I ask it is clear your definition of evidence and the rest of the world are not the same.

Then by all means provide the evidence of the controlled demolition.
 
James Millette's paper has never been refuted by a peer reviewed paper either. He concludes the chips are not thermite/nano-thermite.

Is Millette's paper actually a paper?
 
The reason I ask it is clear your definition of evidence and the rest of the world are not the same.

Then by all means provide the evidence of the controlled demolition.

Okay.

Nanothermite in WTC dust. [Harrit et al]

By products of said nanothermite in WTC dust. [RJLee, USGS, Steven Jones et al]

Molten steel/vaporized steel [FEMA, denied categorically by John the gross liar Gross, 2nd in command at NIST]

Molten molybdenum

Vaporized lead [RJLee]

Free fall of WTC7, only possible with a controlled demolition. [NIST, Chandler]

Accelerating collapses of the twin towers, only possible with a controlled demolition. [Chandler, Szamboti & McQueen]

Wrong engine for WTC2 [reveals that the entire USGOCT is a lie]

...

And now your evidence for the USGOCT. [ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha]
 
Okay.

Nanothermite in WTC dust. [Harrit et al]

By products of said nanothermite in WTC dust. [RJLee, USGS, Steven Jones et al]

Molten steel/vaporized steel [FEMA, denied categorically by John the gross liar Gross, 2nd in command at NIST]

Molten molybdenum

Vaporized lead [RJLee]

Free fall of WTC7, only possible with a controlled demolition. [NIST, Chandler]

Accelerating collapses of the twin towers, only possible with a controlled demolition. [Chandler, Szamboti & McQueen]

Wrong engine for WTC2 [reveals that the entire USGOCT is a lie]

...

And now your evidence for the USGOCT. [ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha]


When are you going to correct your misinformation and apologize for basically calling the researchers, professional, scientists, and first responders liars in the reports they have published?

No nanothermite from the WTC site.
Misrepresenting the conclusions from RGLee Group study. The by products came from known sources from the buildings. If you understood the report you would know that.
Molten steel and the photo you keep harping about has been explained. You refuse to accept you were wrong.
Free fall for part of the WTC7 collapse explained by NIST.

Are you really wanting me to provide the links to the NIST report? You can search yourself.

https://www.nist.gov/el/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation
"his analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model, which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below."



Arson/Explosive Investigtor
Brent Blanchard: No. There's no evidence. We see the same material being presented year after year, over and over. We are not judge and jury but we do work in the industry and we see it all the time. We do see telltale signs of what to look for, we did work on the cleanup, I was personally on the 9/11 site later in the fall because we were documenting the clean-up effort by multiple demolition crews. My engineering company is not tied to any political organization, we are not even tied to those demolition teams. We are just a contractor, and that was one of our jobs. We have a trained eye and none of us saw any indication of wiring, or cuts, or pre burning or any of the things we see hundreds of times a year on explosive demolition sites. Given the amount of time we worked there, if we had seen some of it we would have taken note of it. We would have seen if something didn't look right. Not only my team, but all demolition teams….not a single man saw anything that looked suspicious or that looked like it needed further investigation related to explosive demolition. This all came from conspiracy theorists who are not expert in controlled demolitions at all.https://undicisettembre.blogspot.de/2014/10/an-interview-with-explosive-expert.html


Have you seen the latest by Mark Basile?

"Chemist[1] Mark Basile has completed his own Raman spectroscopy study on red/gray chips and other materials, including paint. He is currently writing up the data and the report will be made publicly available soon - how soon depends on whether it will simply be posted as a publicly available PDF file, or published in a journal.

Raman spectroscopy is an alternative way to get data similar to the much hyped[2] FTIR data in the failed[3] Millette report:
Raman spectroscopy offers several advantages for microscopic analysis. Since it is a scattering technique, specimens do not need to be fixed or sectioned. Raman spectra can be collected from a very small volume (< 1 µm in diameter); these spectra allow the identification of species present in that volume. Water does not generally interfere with Raman spectral analysis. Thus, Raman spectroscopy is suitable for the microscopic examination of minerals, materials such as polymers and ceramics, cells, proteins and forensic trace evidence
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_spectroscopy"
Any Updates on Mark Basile's Study? - Page 21 - International Skeptics Forum
 
When are you going to correct your misinformation and apologize for basically calling the researchers, professional, scientists, and first responders liars in the reports they have published?

No nanothermite from the WTC site.
Misrepresenting the conclusions from RGLee Group study. The by products came from known sources from the buildings. If you understood the r ... .

As always, zero evidence from you.

Are you really wanting me to provide the links to the NIST report? You can search yourself.

https://www.nist.gov/el/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation
"his analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model, which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below."

More of the famous USGOCT lies. The part I have bolded and underlined is a total lie. Their computer simulation is a lie. The actual live videos show it is all a lie. There were no "exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above" - the entire WTC7 structure fell in one symmetrical piece.

You do have eyes, don't you, mike? Why would you advance these lies when you can see for yourself that it is a lie?




You know that John the gross Liar Gross, lied about the molten steel. Why aren't you discussing that?

You know that NIST lied about the molten steel. Why aren't you discussing that?
 
As always, zero evidence from you.



More of the famous USGOCT lies. The part I have bolded and underlined is a total lie. Their computer simulation is a lie. The actual live videos show it is all a lie. There were no "exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above" - the entire WTC7 structure fell in one symmetrical piece.

You do have eyes, don't you, mike? Why would you advance these lies when you can see for yourself that it is a lie?




You know that John the gross Liar Gross, lied about the molten steel. Why aren't you discussing that?

You know that NIST lied about the molten steel. Why aren't you discussing that?


Zero evidence from you.

Is it not you who keeps bringing the "molten steel"? Seems to be your thing.
 
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