Was the DNC a Russian hack or not???[W:6]

Re: Was the DNC a Russian hack or not???

Harry Guerrilla said:

It's fairly easy to get the evidence.
The primary documents are still on the internet, from their original source (plus people have backed them up for safe keeping).
Open them with OpenOffice, inspect the metadata.

The other supporting information, like Guccifer2 chat logs is a bit more difficult and easy to overlook.
The language assessment, from my novice position, is that he was a native English speaker, pretending to be a Russian.
Either that, or he had a native level English proficiency.

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I wish John McAfee had won the Libertarian party nominee and been on the national stage. He is a genius...amazingly balanced delivery. Maybe the smartest person n the planet with regard to net security. A little wacky in some areas...perhaps. But he is ni friend of the GOP. He breaks down why the FBI reports on the 'hacking' are ridiculous.

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VanceMack said:

I wish John McAfee had won the Libertarian party nominee and been on the national stage. He is a genius...amazingly balanced delivery. Maybe the smartest person n the planet with regard to net security. A little wacky in some areas...perhaps. But he is ni friend of the GOP. He breaks down why the FBI reports on the 'hacking' are ridiculous.

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Honestly I'm not sure what to think of him.
I think he's on the border of genius and crazy.
Not clear which one he is.

Sometimes a person is both and makes it hard to find them credible.

Paperview said:

:screwy

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You can't debate and engage in personal attacks.
If that's all you got, well then you haven't a hill to stand on.

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Harry Guerrilla said:

Honestly I'm not sure what to think of him.
I think he's on the border of genius and crazy.
Not clear which one he is.

Sometimes a person is both and makes it hard to find them credible.

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Oh...he's defintiely on the border. No doubt. But his credentials are beyond question.

Im not at all surprised to see the muppets cling to the offered rhetoric from the nations 'intel' agencies. Who cares that the intel agencies are basing their analysis on a single report from a private company in Ukraine that hates Russia and has deep ties to the DNC. As long as their bull**** reports support their empty headed rhetoric...

Harry Guerrilla said:

You can't debate and engage in personal attacks.
If that's all you got, well then you haven't a hill to stand on.

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:screwy

Have fun in your CT world.

Ta!

Re: Was the DNC a Russian hack or not???

Harry Guerrilla said:

Dave you're not going to get any where using **** sources like you did.
There are much better articles like, Emails were leaked, not hacked - Baltimore Sun

Which won't get this auto flushed to the CT section.
Sources like the one you used make this whole thing, which is very real and very legitimate, look like dumb ass 911 truther crap.

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So, to counter claims that the OP source is a conspiracy site, you use an editorial by two conspiracy theorists....

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Redress said:

So, to counter claims that the OP source is a conspiracy site, you use an editorial by two conspiracy theorists....

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Bill Binney is an NSA whistle blower.
I don't need him though, I read the information directly from the source (the leaked info) and it doesn't describe what has been claimed.
It contradicts many things that were claimed.

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DaveFagan said:

Probably no future benefit to knowing the truth, eh?
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Some folks are allergic to the truth, there are certain truths and facts they would rather not hear, definitely rather not think about. That tendency is the foundation of cognitive dissonance, willful ignorance, whatever one wants to call it.

I'm sure the Russians are laughing, as to them the Americans come across as Nero fiddling as their government crumbles. I've already been through the crying phase, and moved on to just amusement at how gullible so many americans have become, how susceptible to what the MSM tells them.

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Thoreau72 said:

Some folks are allergic to the truth, there are certain truths and facts they would rather not hear, definitely rather not think about. That tendency is the foundation of cognitive dissonance, willful ignorance, whatever one wants to call it.

I'm sure the Russians are laughing, as to them the Americans come across as Nero fiddling as their government crumbles. I've already been through the crying phase, and moved on to just amusement at how gullible so many americans have become, how susceptible to what the MSM tells them.

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I'm perplexed why the post was moved to CT. It shows factually, verified by the speed of download, that a drive had to be attached to the DNC network to download that fast. No ambiguity, just a simple fact. No theory involved. No accusations. Just the certainty, verified by Eastern Daylight Timezone, that the individual was on the DNC computer, not in Russia. Interestingly, Assange always said that he was given the data by a disgruntled Dem. To date, Assange has not been shown to be a liar, just the opposite. Beyond the hack CT is a serious attempt to bury the truth. All US citizens should ask "Why?"

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DaveFagan said:

I'm perplexed why the post was moved to CT. It shows factually, verified by the speed of download, that a drive had to be attached to the DNC network to download that fast. No ambiguity, just a simple fact. No theory involved. No accusations. Just the certainty, verified by Eastern Daylight Timezone, that the individual was on the DNC computer, not in Russia. Interestingly, Assange always said that he was given the data by a disgruntled Dem. To date, Assange has not been shown to be a liar, just the opposite. Beyond the hack CT is a serious attempt to bury the truth. All US citizens should ask "Why?"

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The CT label is very much like the anti-Semitic label. It means that the subject matter is too close to the truth, and allows people to escape the implications of the subject matter were it to be true and accurate.

This entire Russiagate thing is simply the DNC and the Deep State's efforts to distract from Hillary's shortcomings and loss in the election. IMO the Seth Rich incident might explain the whole thing, and that's why it is hushed up. Somebody has something to hide.

I don't doubt that Russia would have preferred Trump to Hillary, and might have taken overt actions to assist Trump, just as we prefer and install candidates in the elections of other countries around the world. But the idea they hacked to achieve such a goal has not been proved, not by a long shot.