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MH17’s Shooting Down was the work of the CIA and Ukrainian secret service

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Malaysia Airlines airplane MH17 has not been set aside by a Book rocket, but by a Ukrainian jet fighter. This must be evident from a BBC documentary that will be broadcast next week.

The documentary reveals new evidence that the plane has been shot by a Ukrainian combatant. Another theory that is considered is that there were two bombs in a CIA-supported false flag operation.

Eyewitnesses said they had seen more than one plane in the sky. One witness said he had seen how the Boeing was shot down by two fighter planes, one of which turned off the crew. German research journalist Billy Six interviewed 100 witnesses, seven of whom said to themselves to be a fighter.

No trace

Private investigator Sergej Sokolov investigated the battlefield with a team of more than 100 people and found no track of a Book rocket. He claims that MH17 was taken down by the CIA in cooperation with the Ukrainian secret service.

He says to have phone tones from two CIA agents who would have placed the bombs on board MH17. Without the help of Dutch security services, Sokolov’s bombs could never have been put on board the device.

Nato presence

According to Sokolov, this false flag operation aimed to overcome Russia’s reputation so that sanctions could be imposed, show the world that Russia is a “barbarian country” and NATO presence in Europe, especially Ukraine, To reinforce.

The BBC also told Bellingcat civil journalists who believe Putin is behind. They rely on information on the Internet.

The Boeing 777 of Malaysia Airlines was shot on July 17, 2014 in eastern Ukraine. All 298 occupants were killed.

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robinfred said:
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Malaysia Airlines airplane MH17 has not been set aside by a Book rocket, but by a Ukrainian jet fighter. This must be evident from a BBC documentary that will be broadcast next week.

The documentary reveals new evidence that the plane has been shot by a Ukrainian combatant. Another theory that is considered is that there were two bombs in a CIA-supported false flag operation.

Eyewitnesses said they had seen more than one plane in the sky. One witness said he had seen how the Boeing was shot down by two fighter planes, one of which turned off the crew. German research journalist Billy Six interviewed 100 witnesses, seven of whom said to themselves to be a fighter.

No trace

Private investigator Sergej Sokolov investigated the battlefield with a team of more than 100 people and found no track of a Book rocket. He claims that MH17 was taken down by the CIA in cooperation with the Ukrainian secret service.

He says to have phone tones from two CIA agents who would have placed the bombs on board MH17. Without the help of Dutch security services, Sokolov’s bombs could never have been put on board the device.

Nato presence

According to Sokolov, this false flag operation aimed to overcome Russia’s reputation so that sanctions could be imposed, show the world that Russia is a “barbarian country” and NATO presence in Europe, especially Ukraine, To reinforce.

The BBC also told Bellingcat civil journalists who believe Putin is behind. They rely on information on the Internet.

The Boeing 777 of Malaysia Airlines was shot on July 17, 2014 in eastern Ukraine. All 298 occupants were killed.

TruthLibrary
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That sounds poorly argued, but let's wait for the BBC show. What do you say?
 
Seems Cters will buy any BS if it blames the ebil US govt
 
Quag said:
Seems Cters will buy any BS if it blames the ebil US govt
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This is true.
It's not ALWAYS the US gov't. though.
There was a guy running around here claiming that Malaysian flight 370 was hijacked by the Iranians so they could rig it with nukes.
In that case, the US gov't was only responsible for a coverup.
Coincidentally----at least that's what THEY want you to think----flight 370 and MH17 were both Malaysian Airlines jets.
 
robinfred said:
boeing-mh17.jpg


Malaysia Airlines airplane MH17 has not been set aside by a Book rocket, but by a Ukrainian jet fighter. This must be evident from a BBC documentary that will be broadcast next week.

The documentary reveals new evidence that the plane has been shot by a Ukrainian combatant. Another theory that is considered is that there were two bombs in a CIA-supported false flag operation.

Eyewitnesses said they had seen more than one plane in the sky. One witness said he had seen how the Boeing was shot down by two fighter planes, one of which turned off the crew. German research journalist Billy Six interviewed 100 witnesses, seven of whom said to themselves to be a fighter.

No trace

Private investigator Sergej Sokolov investigated the battlefield with a team of more than 100 people and found no track of a Book rocket. He claims that MH17 was taken down by the CIA in cooperation with the Ukrainian secret service.

He says to have phone tones from two CIA agents who would have placed the bombs on board MH17. Without the help of Dutch security services, Sokolov’s bombs could never have been put on board the device.

Nato presence

According to Sokolov, this false flag operation aimed to overcome Russia’s reputation so that sanctions could be imposed, show the world that Russia is a “barbarian country” and NATO presence in Europe, especially Ukraine, To reinforce.

The BBC also told Bellingcat civil journalists who believe Putin is behind. They rely on information on the Internet.

The Boeing 777 of Malaysia Airlines was shot on July 17, 2014 in eastern Ukraine. All 298 occupants were killed.

TruthLibrary
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Pschaw. Everyone familiar with the issue knows it was giant, radioactive spaces weasels again. This time under contract with Paraguay.
 
radioman said:
This is true.
It's not ALWAYS the US gov't. though.
There was a guy running around here claiming that Malaysian flight 370 was hijacked by the Iranians so they could rig it with nukes.
In that case, the US gov't was only responsible for a coverup.
Coincidentally----at least that's what THEY want you to think----flight 370 and MH17 were both Malaysian Airlines jets.
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Yeah I forgot about that crazy Iranian/Malaysian CT theory
It was a great example of someone with a lot of imagination and absolutely no knowledge about the subject he is talking about.
 
For those not familiar, the Dutch Joint Investigation Team (JIT - Netherlands/Australia/Belgium/Malaysia/Ukraine) conclusively determined that MH17 was shot down by a Russian BUK missile system (#332) transported into eastern Ukraine by Russia’s 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade on 17 July 2014 and returned to Russia that very night.

Dutch Inquiry Links Russia to 298 Deaths in Explosion of Jetliner Over Ukraine - The New York Times

Since Russia vetoed a UN Resolution to form a tribunal to prosecute the MH17 perpetrators, and all of the perpetrators fled to sanctuary in Russia, both Australia and the Netherlands have proposed a trial in absentia.

MH17 Plane Crash Suspects Could Face Trial in Absentia
 
MH17 was a publicity and propaganda stunt meant to vilify the Russians, so that yet another round of sanctions could be imposed.

The US never even tried to prove any of its claims, but that is how comfortable they are in the propaganda business, knowing that mainstream media will ask no meaningful questions.

2 fighters, probably one AAM, and certainly some gunfire, visible on the port side of the aircraft, concentrated on the cockpit.

Kiev's radar was inoperative that day, and some unknown party rerouted the flight and changed its altitude. Bellingcat is apparently a NATO propaganda group.

Veterans Today claims the pax were actually from MH370, but I'm most skeptical of that claim.
 
Thoreau72 said:
MH17 was a publicity and propaganda stunt meant to vilify the Russians, so that yet another round of sanctions could be imposed.

The US never even tried to prove any of its claims, but that is how comfortable they are in the propaganda business, knowing that mainstream media will ask no meaningful questions.

2 fighters, probably one AAM, and certainly some gunfire, visible on the port side of the aircraft, concentrated on the cockpit.

Kiev's radar was inoperative that day, and some unknown party rerouted the flight and changed its altitude. Bellingcat is apparently a NATO propaganda group.

Veterans Today claims the pax were actually from MH370, but I'm most skeptical of that claim.
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oh look everybody HD believes the already disproved CT because it blames the ebil EUS govt.
What a surprise!
 
Thoreau72 said:
MH17 was a publicity and propaganda stunt meant to vilify the Russians, so that yet another round of sanctions could be imposed.

The US never even tried to prove any of its claims, but that is how comfortable they are in the propaganda business, knowing that mainstream media will ask no meaningful questions.

2 fighters, probably one AAM, and certainly some gunfire, visible on the port side of the aircraft, concentrated on the cockpit.

Kiev's radar was inoperative that day, and some unknown party rerouted the flight and changed its altitude. Bellingcat is apparently a NATO propaganda group.

Veterans Today claims the pax were actually from MH370, but I'm most skeptical of that claim.
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Oh look Thoreau posting the same old BS of his that was disproven when he tried it the first time. And when his nonsense was shown to be just that he as usual ran away. You really need to try and find a new trick there Thoreau. This one is getting rather old
 
Thoreau72 said:
MH17 was a publicity and propaganda stunt meant to vilify the Russians, so that yet another round of sanctions could be imposed.

The US never even tried to prove any of its claims, but that is how comfortable they are in the propaganda business, knowing that mainstream media will ask no meaningful questions.

2 fighters, probably one AAM, and certainly some gunfire, visible on the port side of the aircraft, concentrated on the cockpit.

Kiev's radar was inoperative that day, and some unknown party rerouted the flight and changed its altitude. Bellingcat is apparently a NATO propaganda group.

Veterans Today claims the pax were actually from MH370, but I'm most skeptical of that claim.
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Trust me, no one has to "vilify" the Russians.
 
braindrain said:
Oh look Thoreau posting the same old BS of his that was disproven when he tried it the first time. And when his nonsense was shown to be just that he as usual ran away. You really need to try and find a new trick there Thoreau. This one is getting rather old
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Standard Cter tactic run away for a while then when you think everyone has forgotten come back with the same failed already disproven BS.
 
calamity said:
Trust me, no one has to "vilify" the Russians.
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My bet is that some people get paid to vilify the Russians, it's what they do. One of the clearest examples of it is the MH17 fiasco.

For those of us into behavioral patterns, it's very obvious. No facts, no evidence, but fantastic rhetoric, pure propaganda.

Some of us are able to connect dots and recognize certain behavior.
 
Thoreau72 said:
My bet is that some people get paid to vilify the Russians, it's what they do. One of the clearest examples of it is the MH17 fiasco.

For those of us into behavioral patterns, it's very obvious. No facts, no evidence, but fantastic rhetoric, pure propaganda.

Some of us are able to connect dots and recognize certain behavior.
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Do you get paid to vindicate Putin or do you do that as a freebie for your love bunny?
 
Quag said:
Do you get paid to vindicate Putin or do you do that as a freebie for your love bunny?
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HD never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Veterans Today claims the pax were actually from MH370, but I'm most skeptical of that claim.
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Veterans Today is a scumbag racist CT blog.
 
Rogue Valley said:
HD never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like.
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There are so many CT advanced by the mainstream media that we have a target rich environment. Deception and cover-up is how the MSM rolls. Don't blame me for taking advantage of the situation.
 
Rogue Valley said:
HD never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like.
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Actually he doesn't like any CT that makes his mancrush Bad Vlad look guilty. He just falls hook line and sinker for the ones that blame the ebil US govt.
 
Thoreau72 said:
To be "successful" in debate, always attack the messenger, and never offer substance.
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You cite horrible sources, get used to it.
 
Thoreau72 said:
To be "successful" in debate, always attack the messenger, and never offer substance.
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Post 2 provided a link that shows the images were faked.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/...ukraine-shot-dow?utm_term=.qklq30Eb#.woKXgn0z

Why don't you provide links to prove the analysis done is wrong.
It has also been shown Veterans Today editor admits that much of what VT post is faked. To paraphrase you, "why would someone believe a known liar?":peace

On another note and not wanting to derail this thread, but T72 why do you rarely, if ever, criticize other governments? Why is the Russian government so trustworthy that you believe them?
 
robinfred said:
boeing-mh17.jpg


Malaysia Airlines airplane MH17 has not been set aside by a Book rocket, but by a Ukrainian jet fighter. This must be evident from a BBC documentary that will be broadcast next week.

The documentary reveals new evidence that the plane has been shot by a Ukrainian combatant. Another theory that is considered is that there were two bombs in a CIA-supported false flag operation.

Eyewitnesses said they had seen more than one plane in the sky. One witness said he had seen how the Boeing was shot down by two fighter planes, one of which turned off the crew. German research journalist Billy Six interviewed 100 witnesses, seven of whom said to themselves to be a fighter.

No trace

Private investigator Sergej Sokolov investigated the battlefield with a team of more than 100 people and found no track of a Book rocket. He claims that MH17 was taken down by the CIA in cooperation with the Ukrainian secret service.

He says to have phone tones from two CIA agents who would have placed the bombs on board MH17. Without the help of Dutch security services, Sokolov’s bombs could never have been put on board the device.

Nato presence

According to Sokolov, this false flag operation aimed to overcome Russia’s reputation so that sanctions could be imposed, show the world that Russia is a “barbarian country” and NATO presence in Europe, especially Ukraine, To reinforce.

The BBC also told Bellingcat civil journalists who believe Putin is behind. They rely on information on the Internet.

The Boeing 777 of Malaysia Airlines was shot on July 17, 2014 in eastern Ukraine. All 298 occupants were killed.

TruthLibrary
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BULL ****, BULL CRAP, UTTER NONSENSE.

This was a BUK from Russia, and only people totally devoid of a sense reality/truth would say any different (or blind Putinocrats).
 
ecofarm said:
You cite horrible sources, get used to it.
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You believe anything at all the authorities tell you, no matter what others say, and you never question authority.

I've been over it for years. :mrgreen:
 
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