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Wisconsin Company To Implant Microchips In Employees

no way in hell is anyone implanting any chip in me or my family.
they cannot force their employee's to implant these chips either.

this is just the start of this though. it will get worse.
 
Helix said:
Will you be refusing piss tests and consumer history checks at your next job? If so, how does that work?

I live in a state in which my employer has all of the rights, and I have almost no power to negotiate terms. If I want to pay my bills, I have to jump through their hoops. It's not much of a stretch to envision them deciding that network access is moving from badges to chips. Probably the only thing stopping them from doing it now is upgrade costs.
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if you seriously don't know the difference between a drug test and implanting something in someone's body that is not relevant to the job that they do
then well no one can help you.

this company cannot force someone to get an implant chip put in their body.
that is a violation of personal rights.
 
ludin said:
if you seriously don't know the difference between a drug test and implanting something in someone's body that is not relevant to the job that they do
then well no one can help you.

this company cannot force someone to get an implant chip put in their body.
that is a violation of personal rights.
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At this point, there would be a backlash. In twenty years when we already use chips to unlock everything and pay bills, maybe not. Either way, it could be a condition of employment, especially in my state. We're "right to work" and fire at will here.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Drug testing is not a bad thing...
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1.Sure if privacy and innocent till proven guilty means nothing.

2.Micro chipping proponents probably say the same thing about micro chipping people.
 
Helix said:
At this point, there would be a backlash. In twenty years when we already use chips to unlock everything and pay bills, maybe not. Either way, it could be a condition of employment, especially in my state. We're "right to work" and fire at will here.
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a company cannot force you to undergo a surgery to implant a chip i don't care if they are right to work or not. there are limitations on that just like anything else.
good in 20 years you can do that i will not nor will my family.
 
jamesrage said:
1.Sure if privacy and innocent till proven guilty means nothing.

2.Micro chipping proponents probably say the same thing about micro chipping people.
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no there is a huge difference. drug abuse affects your job performance and safety issues of those around you.
microchip does no such thing.
 
ludin said:
a company cannot force you to undergo a surgery to implant a chip i don't care if they are right to work or not. there are limitations on that just like anything else.
good in 20 years you can do that i will not nor will my family.
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They'll be able to make a key chip a condition of employment if they want, especially in states like mine. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see it happen in my lifetime, and almost certainly in my eventual kid's lifetime.
 
truthatallcost said:
I posted this in CT because I thought it'd get more interest here. Why does a company involved in selling potato chips and bagged peanuts need to microchip their employees? We're living in bizarre times.

Of course the company reps have said there'll be no GPS monitoring of employees, but nearly every technological breakthrough is exploited for tracking purposes. Just ask Edward Snowden.

You phone is tracking you. Your apps have permission to record you. And now some companies want to microchip you. Where is this coming from? CIA? NSA?
What's your opinion.
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This has been coming. RFID's have been around a long time. They have been used to track merchandise. Some people have been putting them have been putting them in their pets. I don't recall seeing this particular application before, but I wouldn't submit to it.

Add this to the recent story of businesses being paid by credit card companies to stop accepting cash. It's pretty easy to see where this is eventually headed.

I'm one of those people that carefully looks at what permissions any app I put on my phone is requesting. If it seems out of line (the app doesn't have a need to know), I don't install it.
 
ludin said:
a company cannot force you to undergo a surgery to implant a chip i don't care if they are right to work or not. there are limitations on that just like anything else.
good in 20 years you can do that i will not nor will my family.
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You do realize companies require that you unzip your pants and piss in a bottle or some other means of obtaining a sample for drug testing?

Plus a chip requires an injection. I could be wrong but child immunizations require shots.As far as I know they don't come in Flinstone vitamins or gummie vitamins.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hell no, no way!

That about sums up my feelings. ;)
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You have a better chance of confiscating my guns than planting a chip up my butt.

And you have no chance at all of confiscating my guns.
 
ludin said:
no there is a huge difference. drug abuse affects your job performance and safety issues of those around you.
microchip does no such thing.
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It does not change the fact that chipping can become the norm just like drug tests are. Just because you say will refuse the job if they "ask" you to be chipped doesn't mean you will and doesn't mean the next person will either. Money doesn't talk, it screams. And I am sure chip proponents can find "legitimate" reasons for implanting employees with chips.
 
jimbo said:
You have a better chance of confiscating my guns than planting a chip up my butt.

And you have no chance at all of confiscating my guns.
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Unless legislation is enacted preventing companies from doing this enough people will say yes and you won't have a choice.
 
Redress said:
Are you aware that the word "offer" is not the same as "require"? They are offering it.

And why do libertarians and conservatives so fear technology?
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I fear big brother, not technology.

Actually you can already do what this plan purports to do using your cell phone. Why the need for a semi permanent chip?
 
jamesrage said:
Unless legislation is enacted preventing companies from doing this enough people will say yes and you won't have a choice.
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I'll have a choice.
 
truthatallcost said:
I posted this in CT because I thought it'd get more interest here. Why does a company involved in selling potato chips and bagged peanuts need to microchip their employees? We're living in bizarre times.

Of course the company reps have said there'll be no GPS monitoring of employees, but nearly every technological breakthrough is exploited for tracking purposes. Just ask Edward Snowden.

You phone is tracking you. Your apps have permission to record you. And now some companies want to microchip you. Where is this coming from? CIA? NSA?
What's your opinion.
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Here, gimme your hand...
 
jamesrage said:
1.Sure if privacy and innocent till proven guilty means nothing.
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It's company policy and health issues. If you don't want to work at a company that drug tests you don't have to. if a company doesn't want to hire drug users they don't have to.
 
Helix said:
Will you be refusing piss tests and consumer history checks at your next job? If so, how does that work?

I live in a state in which my employer has all of the rights, and I have almost no power to negotiate terms. If I want to pay my bills, I have to jump through their hoops. It's not much of a stretch to envision them deciding that network access is moving from badges to chips. Probably the only thing stopping them from doing it now is upgrade costs.
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Sounds like a job for a union... ;)

Seriously, though, this represents a major infringements on your privacy rights, and if corporations in your state have such power, I'm not sure why there isn't activism around it. I mean, it may be easier to just take it, but you can see in this case what a slippery slope that is. I have never taken a piss test, ever, nor would I work for a company that demanded it. I'm not sure it's even allowed up here - it's definitely not common, that's for sure.
 
Grand Mal said:
It is if it's mandatory.
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No nothing is forcing you to work at company ABC, therefore, it is not mandatory. What's more questionable is if you already work at company ABC and they implement a drug testing policy, but if you don't do drugs, why should it bother you so much?
 
ModerateGOP said:
No nothing is forcing you to work at company ABC, therefore, it is not mandatory. What's more questionable is if you already work at company ABC and they implement a drug testing policy, but if you don't do drugs, why should it bother you so much?
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One of the things I hate about conservatism is the, "What are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide?" attitude.
It's the camel's nose. You're used to it being in the tent now. That means that you'll get used to the ears in time and next thing you know your grandkids all have chips implanted in them. Sound paranoid? So did objecting to mandatory drug testing, not long ago.
 
Helix said:
Will you be refusing piss tests and consumer history checks at your next job? If so, how does that work?

I live in a state in which my employer has all of the rights, and I have almost no power to negotiate terms. If I want to pay my bills, I have to jump through their hoops. It's not much of a stretch to envision them deciding that network access is moving from badges to chips. Probably the only thing stopping them from doing it now is upgrade costs.
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That sucks. I wouldn't work for any company that wanted to do that.
 
OlNate said:
Sounds like a job for a union... ;)

Seriously, though, this represents a major infringements on your privacy rights, and if corporations in your state have such power, I'm not sure why there isn't activism around it. I mean, it may be easier to just take it, but you can see in this case what a slippery slope that is. I have never taken a piss test, ever, nor would I work for a company that demanded it. I'm not sure it's even allowed up here - it's definitely not common, that's for sure.
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When I worked in Fort McMurray drug testing was mandatory for everyone who was even remotely involved in an accident or 'incident'. I don't know if that was ever tested in court but it was a union environment, pretty strong Building Trades unions, too, so it probably was perfectly legal.
That was a unique, even bizarre, working environment though. For example, there was no such thing as being off on worker's compensation. If you were hurt on the job, you hobbled your way to the office and sat there, collecting your wages doing crossword puzzles or reading trash novels or something. The sign at the entrance to the jobsite said, "5 Million man-days accident free!" or something equally as ridiculous. It was a joke.
 
Grand Mal said:
When I worked in Fort McMurray drug testing was mandatory for everyone who was even remotely involved in an accident or 'incident'. I don't know if that was ever tested in court but it was a union environment, pretty strong Building Trades unions, too, so it probably was perfectly legal.
That was a unique, even bizarre, working environment though. For example, there was no such thing as being off on worker's compensation. If you were hurt on the job, you hobbled your way to the office and sat there, collecting your wages doing crossword puzzles or reading trash novels or something. The sign at the entrance to the jobsite said, "5 Million man-days accident free!" or something equally as ridiculous. It was a joke.
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lmao...wow, that's shady AF!!

Maybe I'm just in different industries / circles, I've never been asked to do a drug test, nor have I heard of any of my friends doing one.
 
OlNate said:
lmao...wow, that's shady AF!!

Maybe I'm just in different industries / circles, I've never been asked to do a drug test, nor have I heard of any of my friends doing one.
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Fort Mac was unique in that way, back in the low single-digit years, but it's not uncommon in heavy construction now.
 
Grand Mal said:
One of the things I hate about conservatism is the, "What are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide?" attitude.
It's the camel's nose. You're used to it being in the tent now. That means that you'll get used to the ears in time and next thing you know your grandkids all have chips implanted in them. Sound paranoid? So did objecting to mandatory drug testing, not long ago.
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I don't think that's a conservative tenant, at all! Cons tend to be fearful of any and every technology.
 
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