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How to Respond to an Anti-'Conspiracy Theorist'

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Right on!

"You sound like a conspiracy theorist."

RESPONSE: "Conspiracy Theorist?" Now tell me the truth, where did you hear that term...on TV? (Laugh) ... The label of "Conspiracy Theorist" is tactic used to discredit those of us who can see through the government/media-bull**** that you, evidently, cannot. Let me get this straight. Are you saying that men in high positions of power are not capable of criminal activity and telling lies to the general public to cover that up? Are you really that naive?" (Laugh as you say this.)

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Pin dÁr said:
Right on!
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Who's 'they'? I mean, there's lots of 'they's, but who's the 'they' that controls the major networks and newspapers? And which conspiracy are 'they' involved in? All of them?
 
And so it is....

"I'm not saying that governments don't lie, but a conspiracy like that would have to involve 100's of people. You can't hide something like that."

RESPONSE: "You're absolutely right. I agree with you 100%. It is impossible to totally cover up a conspiracy so massive. That's why I know about it! What you must understand is that they don't have to cover it up totally. Even a bucket that has a few leaks can still do the job of carrying water from here to there! They only need to fool 80% of the public, which isn't hard to do when you control the major networks and newspapers. The 10-20% that do figure it out (and the fewer still who will dare to speak their minds about it) can be very easily marginalized with the propaganda label "conspiracy theorist." The 80% + never take us critical thinkers seriously because they want to be part of the majority. This is known as groupthink. (*Note: When saying "conspiracy theorist", always hold your two hands up as you make sarcastic quote marks with your fingers.)
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Indeed!

(The Ridicule Trick) "That's ridiculous (as he rolls his eyes). Do you really believe that nonsense?"

RESPONSE: "Can I ask you an honest question?" (Wait for "yes") Do you consider yourself an open minded, critical thinking person - yes or no? (Wait for "yes") Then how can you possibly ridicule an opinion when you haven't even done 10 minutes of research into the matter? That's kind of ignorant don't you think?" (Wait for response.)
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yeap, yeap

"Not everything that happens in the world is a conspiracy!"

RESPONSE: "Not everything is a conspiracy, but nor is NOTHING a conspiracy either. Wouldn't you agree that we should evaluate each case independently and with an open mind?" (Wait for response.)
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And so it is

THE POWER OF GROUPTHINK!

A variation of the "80-20 Rule" applies to pulling off huge conspiracies. If only 80% of the public can be fooled (not hard to do when academia, the government and the media are so corrupted), then the remaining 20% can be intimidated, ridiculed and marginalized into silence.

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Grand Mal said:
Who's 'they'? I mean, there's lots of 'they's, but who's the 'they' that controls the major networks and newspapers? And which conspiracy are 'they' involved in? All of them?
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Who do you mean? The "men in high positions of power"?
 
Pin dÁr said:
Who do you mean? The "men in high positions of power"?
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"They only need to fool 80% of the public, which isn't hard to do when you control the major networks and newspapers."

That 'they'. Who are 'they' and which conspiracy are 'they' involved in? All of them?
 
Grand Mal said:
"They only need to fool 80% of the public, which isn't hard to do when you control the major networks and newspapers."

That 'they'. Who are 'they' and which conspiracy are 'they' involved in? All of them?
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if you say 'all of them you are aware of conspiracies. to which conspiracies are you referring?
 
Pin dÁr said:
if you say 'all of them you are aware of conspiracies. to which conspiracies are you referring?
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That's my question to you. Which conspiracies are referred to?
 
Grand Mal said:
Who's 'they'? I mean, there's lots of 'they's, but who's the 'they' that controls the major networks and newspapers? And which conspiracy are 'they' involved in? All of them?
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The conspiracy they are engaged in is the manipulation of the public perception through the media.
 
Thoreau72 said:
The conspiracy they are engaged in is the manipulation of the public perception through the media.
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Wait a minute. Do you mean that the people who control the various news media are conspiring to engage in a conspiracy?
Once again, third time, which conspiracy are they conspiring to engage in?
 
Grand Mal said:
Wait a minute. Do you mean that the people who control the various news media are conspiring to engage in a conspiracy?
Once again, third time, which conspiracy are they conspiring to engage in?
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How does one get to be one of them? Sounds like a job I could do.
 
zyzygy said:
How does one get to be one of them? Sounds like a job I could do.
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It's a closed society. They have to approach you, and if they ever do you'd better say "Yes" or your loved ones will be stapling pictures of you to telephone poles.
 
Light has dawned. Queen Elizabeth, they call her Liz. Lizard! It was there all the time staring us in the face.
 
Grand Mal said:
Wait a minute. Do you mean that the people who control the various news media are conspiring to engage in a conspiracy?
Once again, third time, which conspiracy are they conspiring to engage in?
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They have committed overt acts in furtherance of their conspiracy to manipulate the public perception. Under criminal rules, the overt act in furtherance of the plan is an essential part.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Right on!
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A silly response.

"Are you saying that men in high positions of power are not capable of criminal activity" is a straw man argument.

"Anti-conspiracy theorist" types aren't under the impression the government tells no lies. We just need, you know, evidence to support some of the wild ideas that come up.

I've often remarked that conspiracy theories aren't usually based on things that are wrong, rather that they are based on absurd interpretations of things that are true. (or are based on incomplete understanding of the facts)

Example:
True Fact: Numerous witnesses observed large aircraft striking WTC towers.
Simple conclusion: aircraft struck WTC towers.
Absurd conclusion: holographic aircraft struck WTC towers to cover up a controlled demolition

Example:
True fact: Flight 77's flight data recorder shows that the cockpit door never opened during the final flight
Conclusion based on incomplete information: The aircraft could not have been hijacked if the door never opened, therefore there were no hijackers.
Additional information: 757-223 model aircraft not equipped with cockpit door sensors. The flight data recorder was designed to include newer -300 series aircraft that have additional sensor inputs, including a cockpit door microswitch.

The absurd conclusions often spiral into themselves. When holes are pointed out, increasingly absurd ideas are brought up to fill them. Things like nukes that don't have radiation, or x-ray cannons that are somehow subsonic and visible. Holographic airplanes.
 
Pin dÁr said:
And so it is....
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So when you tell us that chem-trails are real because you supposedly know a guy who works as a maintenance guy at an airport, that means that chem-trails are real. In spite of the FACT that a spraying effort at the altitudes airliners fly at would be completely ineffective. In spite of the fact that we've never seen one shred of evidence from any reliable source whatsoever (they are all unverified "friend of a friend who KNOWS"). In spite fo the FACT that the dimwits who first started this lie have openly admitted that it was all a big prank. All of these facts get to be argued away with a simple "That's what the gov't wants you to believe." :roll:
 
faithful_servant said:
So when you tell us that chem-trails are real because you supposedly know a guy who works as a maintenance guy at an airport, that means that chem-trails are real. In spite of the FACT that a spraying effort at the altitudes airliners fly at would be completely ineffective. In spite of the fact that we've never seen one shred of evidence from any reliable source whatsoever (they are all unverified "friend of a friend who KNOWS"). In spite fo the FACT that the dimwits who first started this lie have openly admitted that it was all a big prank. All of these facts get to be argued away with a simple "That's what the gov't wants you to believe." :roll:
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Ya-know, if Chemtrails were real, why the **** would the Illuminati put it in the air? They breathe the exact same air we do.
 
TheGoverness said:
Ya-know, if Chemtrails were real, why the **** would the Illuminati put it in the air? They breathe the exact same air we do.
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The real question is why cropdusters fly so low when chemicals can be accurately and effectively disbursed at 35,000 feet. Surely flying below treetop level is unnecessarily dangerous!

... unless...

The cropdusters are in on it.
 
Thoreau72 said:
They have committed overt acts in furtherance of their conspiracy to manipulate the public perception. Under criminal rules, the overt act in furtherance of the plan is an essential part.
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Once more, which conspiracy is referred to that the news media is involved in?
 
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