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manufactured terrorism?

Do you think that terrorism is manufactured?

  • yes

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • no

    Votes: 9 69.2%

  • Total voters
    13
if this gets out. we are finished

It's been out, for years. There will always be somebody with slightly different numbers, and the exact number is difficult to calculate for a number of reasons, but it's been out for years, to any person curious and familiar with free fall and building fires, that the collapse of the buildings was so complete and so quick that there is no way it could have been caused by office fires burning on the 80th floor. :mrgreen:
 
do you think that terrorism is manufactured by those (CIA/DoD) that profit from insecurity (militarization of the police, mass surveillance, etc)?

The Intercept published database of manufactured terrorism in the USA: The U.S. government has prosecuted 796 people for terrorism since the 9/11 attacks. Most of them never even got close to committing an act of violence: https://trial-and-terror.theintercept.com/

I believe they manufacture terrorism by bullying people (mostly immigrants and Muslims) and if bullying is not enough to produce the hate and attack, they poison them, to make them suicidal and not to care if they will be arrested/imprisoned.

1) all attackers in Paris and elsewhere were 2 years in the prison, after that they made attacks, they were already known to the secret service (that surely set them up to be arrested and poisoned them in the prison), for those who don't know, spies destroy your private life when they observe you, they call it sabotage of your life, not only of your political activities that they found dangerous

2) all attackers were Muslims who broke rules and never cared so much for all religious rules, they drank, sold drugs, etc. it means, they attacked because they were bullied and poisoned and not because of Islam, I believe they were chosen by spies because criminals are easier to make them hot/nervous to kill. if you bully Muslim criminals, they can get an idea to kill

3) they made wider definition of terrorism in the law, in many countries, now they arrest people for terrorism just because they express their opinion, they don't try to kill anyone, and each arrest is followed by the media paranoia about terrorism, to justify building a totalitarian state i.e abolishing civil and workers rights as it happened in France.

they manufacture terrorism to profit from insecurity but also to turn the system back to 19th century in Europe and the USA.

In Asia, they manufacture terrorism to make or prolong the war, to profit from the war and insecurity,
the biggest buyer of arms from Lockheed Martin is Saudi Arabia and the CEOs give technical help to Saudis to locate targets in Yemen, Saudis are the public face for the war, but behind Saudis are CEOs of Lockheed Martin and American intelligence. They use Saudi Arabia to kill masses of civilians and produce more jihadists, to help to Al Qaeda to get more people, the same as they did with ISIS in the last 4 years. In that way, they produce and prolong the war i.e. they profit.

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/03...onviction-in-canada-citing-police-entrapment/
https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/

The ACLU of Massachusetts’s Kade Crockford notes this extraordinarily revealing quote from former FBI assistant director Thomas Fuentes, as he defends one of the worst FBI terror “sting” operations of all:
If you’re submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you’re not going to submit the proposal that “We won the war on terror and everything’s great,” cuz the first thing that’s gonna happen is your budget’s gonna be cut in half. You know, it’s my opposite of Jesse Jackson’s ‘Keep Hope Alive’—it’s ‘Keep Fear Alive.’ Keep it alive.

That is the FBI’s terrorism strategy — keep fear alive — and it drives everything they do.

Yes. The CIA is bullying people with hate so that they become suicidal and want to blow up innocent children. Good job.

:roll:
 
It's been out, for years. There will always be somebody with slightly different numbers, and the exact number is difficult to calculate for a number of reasons, but it's been out for years, to any person curious and familiar with free fall and building fires, that the collapse of the buildings was so complete and so quick that there is no way it could have been caused by office fires burning on the 80th floor. :mrgreen:

Your lack of knowledge about building collapses is almost as great as your lack of knowledge about avaiation
 
It's been out, for years. There will always be somebody with slightly different numbers, and the exact number is difficult to calculate for a number of reasons, but it's been out for years, to any person curious and familiar with free fall and building fires, that the collapse of the buildings was so complete and so quick that there is no way it could have been caused by office fires burning on the 80th floor. :mrgreen:


Been "out for years" and yet here all you truthers are achieving NOTHING ... truthism IS one abject FAIL.

The "official story" REMAINS wholly UNCHALLENGED AND UNCHANGED by a single word DESPITE all the truther hot air over the years ... imagine that !!!

REALITY CHECK too ... the Towers most certainly were NOT freefall ... FACT.

As for WTC7 it ONLY HAD ONE BIT OF ONE WALL be at freefall for a FEW SECONDS ... an entirely meaningless event really in engineering or science ... FACT.

As for the fires ... they were NOT your typical "office fires" ... so that attempt at SPIN fails too ... FACT.
 
WTC7 fell at free fall for 2.25 seconds, for 105 feet, 8 storeys.

WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part I) by David Chandler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGMvnwjUizY

Watch Shyam Sunder, NIST's lead liar, squirm as he fails to answer the question. Around 2:40
 
WTC7 fell at free fall for 2.25 seconds, for 105 feet, 8 storeys.

WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part I) by David Chandler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGMvnwjUizY

Watch Shyam Sunder, NIST's lead liar, squirm as he fails to answer the question. Around 2:40

False WTC7 did NOT fall at free fall, parts of WTC7 for part of the collapse fell at those rates and there is nothing special about that.
 
WTC7 fell at free fall speed, going from total support, the same as it had been since it was built, into free fall. Across the entire width of the building.

The only way that is possible, the only way known to mankind for that to happen is controlled demolition.

Controlled demolition, of course, occurred. That is seen in the molten and vaporized steel that FEMA describes in their report.
 
WTC7 fell at free fall speed, going from total support, the same as it had been since it was built, into free fall. Across the entire width of the building.
That, my friend, is a huge friggin lie.
 
More of the typical nothingness from the supporters of the oh so lame US government conspiracy theory.
 
More of the typical nothingness from the supporters of the oh so lame US government conspiracy theory.
I'll prove you wrong tomorrow in another post. Be patient.
 
I'll prove you wrong tomorrow in another post. Be patient.

Sad that we have to go over the same things again. Truthers seem to have an incredibly short memory
 
WTC7 fell at free fall speed, going from total support, the same as it had been since it was built, into free fall. Across the entire width of the building.

The only way that is possible, the only way known to mankind for that to happen is controlled demolition.

Controlled demolition, of course, occurred. That is seen in the molten and vaporized steel that FEMA describes in their report.

Bolded is untrue.
 
WTC7 fell at free fall for 2.25 seconds, for 105 feet, 8 storeys.

WTC7 in Freefall: No Longer Controversial



HUGE FAIL ... for ONLY ONE BIT OF ONE WALL was in freefall.

NOT the entire building as you are so desperately trying to allude to.


ONE BIT of ONE WALL ... and is MEANINGLESS in science and engineering.

It does NOT help your "explosive" fanaticism ... NOT your thermite ones ... it JUST means ONE BIT of ONE UNSUPPORTED WALL fell.

And the REASON that bit of the wall was unsupported is BECAUSE the PENTHOUSE had already fallen in RIPPING the floors away FROM the walls.

That a BIT of an UNSUPPORTED wall fell a bit faster means NOTHING in science or engineering.

And NO dumb truther videos are NOT evidence nor proof either ... they are JUST dumb OLD videos made by NON-EXPERTS that achieved NOTHING.

Truthers ... ALWAYS barking up the WRONG trees
 
WTC7 fell at free fall speed, going from total support, the same as it had been since it was built, into free fall. Across the entire width of the building.


WRONG ... WTC7 did NOT fall at freefall ... ONE BIT of ONE WALL did.


Details MATTER ... which must be why the likes of you DON'T bring any.

Utter bull**** too on the "entire width" ... WHY do you lie ???

Not like you won't get caught out camlok !!!

The only way that is possible, the only way known to mankind for that to happen is controlled demolition.


Yet MORE lies and ignorance of truthism on display.

Freefall is NOT a characteristic of explosive and/or controlled demolition ... FACT !!!

Controlled demolition, of course, occurred. That is seen in the molten and vaporized steel that FEMA describes in their report.

WRONG ... NO such thing as ANY kind of demolition occurred ... total LIES.

MORE FACT for you to ignore.

FEMA were NOT the agency tasked with an official report ... and they do NOT refer to molten metal as from HEAT ... but as a CORROSION ATTACK BY SULPHUR ... RUSTING fast due to the sulphur and water acting together.

Sulphur was in ABUNDANT supply due to the DRYWALL present on EVERY FLOOR.

Molten metal is also NOT a characteristic of explosive and/or controlled demolition ... FACT !!!
 
WTC7 fell at free fall speed, going from total support, the same as it had been since it was built, into free fall. Across the entire width of the building.
So camlok. Let's first start out with a video of the complete collapse of WTC7.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqbUkThGlCo

Here is a timeline that shows the three stages of the collapse. Take note that this graph starts AFTER the whole penthouse collapse and when the roofline of what reamained of WTC7 starts to drop.


The video linked above is 23 seconds long. The collapse starts at 3 seconds in with the mechanical penthouse falling into the building. Below is a screenshot. The part of the collapse is NOT part of the graph above.


At 10 seconds into the video, what was left of the penthouse collapses into the building. Screenshot below.


Immediately AFTER the the remaining portion of the penthouse starts to collapse, the roofline starts to drop. That's where the graph above starts.

So using your claim that "going from total support, the same as it had been since it was built, into free fall", you think that the WTC7 building was undamaged at the time the remaining structure went into free fall for 2.25 seconds. That means that you think WTC7 was undamaged and pristine at about 11 seconds into the video linked above because that's when the roofline started to drop and it fell for 2.25 seconds at free fall.

Also, please explain the 1.75 seconds of non free fall of the roofline (leading up to the 2.25 seconds of free fall) shown in the graph above in stage one. You said WTC7 went immediately into free fall when the supposed explosives went off.

As I said, what you claimed above is a friggin' huge lie.
 
WTC7 fell at free fall for 2.25 seconds, for 105 feet, 8 storeys.

WRONG ... WTC7 itself did NOT freefall ... ONLY ONE BIT OF ONE WALL DID.

Details MATTER ... you must be scared of them then !!!


WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part I) by David Chandler

WHY do you continue to lie ... you were SHOWN on the other threads (which you have now seem to have conveniently abandoned) that Chandler did NOT made NIST "finally admit" ANY such thing.

For NIST had ALREADY referred to that BIT of freefall in their DRAFT ... which was published BEFORE Chandler ever spewed.

Did you really think nobody would notice how dishonest you are and so CONTINUE to push this OUTRIGHT LIE about Chandler.

Is it willful of you then ... or can you just not help it !!!

https://www.debatepolitics.com/cons...ave-been-done-were-told-2.html#post1059126613

Watch Shyam Sunder, NIST's lead liar, squirm as he fails to answer the question. Around 2:40

HUGE FAIL ... not Only does he actually answer but he is NOT squiming to avoid anything but just nervous about PUBLIC SPEAKING.

As many people ARE.

Truthers ... BLIND to reality and factual truth !!!
 
More of the typical nothingness from the supporters of the oh so lame US government conspiracy theory.
I suppose my post above is more of the "nothingness" right camolok?

:lamo
 
HUGE FAIL ... for ONLY ONE BIT OF ONE WALL was in freefall.

NOT the entire building as you are so desperately trying to allude to.


Nobody, not even NIST would suggest such a goofy thing. You don't even understand what 'allude' means either.

If only one bit of one wall, dog almighty that is nuts, was in free fall the other three sides and the "more" you somehow imagined, would be left above the roof line of the descending building for all to see. That did not happen.

What the hell were you gazing at?

Here's a video that shows for those who are legally blind, that the entire building, tied together as it was descended in free fall.

WTC Building 7 Collapse - 23 angles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnLcUxV1dPo

We must make note here that NIST at first denied free fall. A large number of scientists should not make such an amateur mistake. When they were caught out on their lie, they were like deer caught in headlights. It was completely apparent that they were lying from their discombobulated speech, like children caught in a known lie.

We must make note here that the usual US government conspiracy theory theorists have been denying all along that free fall even existed.
 
FEMA were NOT the agency tasked with an official report ... and they do NOT refer to molten metal as from HEAT ... but as a CORROSION ATTACK BY SULPHUR ... RUSTING fast due to the sulphur and water acting together.

Your first sentence makes zero sense. It doesn't matter if FEMA were tenth. They did a scientific study, in a manner of speaking.

The attack on the steel came from a thermitic reaction, that of thermate, a substance that has sulfur in the mix, a eutectic mix, whose design, with the addition of the sulphur is to lower the melting point of the steel.

That created the molten and vaporized steel. It also created the molten molybdenum, the vaporized lead, the iron microspheres, a product of thermitic reactions.

The molten steel seen by myriad firemen, first responders, scientists, clean up workers, Leslie Robertson, Rudy Guiliani, Ken Holden, ... for months after 9-11.
 

You seem to think that yelling and stamping your feet, big bold letters, huge print, ... is an effective way to get a point across. It isn't. It simply illustrates how childish you are.
 
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