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iguanaman said:
In what election did we hack the political parties computers and release the dirt on the party we opposed?
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None that I know of, intelligence agencies would not announce it.

Also, I think you may be confusing WikiLeaks for Russia, correct me if i'm wrong, but is there any proof to that allegation?
 
camlok said:
This is always a really hilarious comment that you hear from Americans. There is no country on the planet that has overthrown more government and meddled in other countries' elections than the terrorist USA.
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Which has nothing to do with OP.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
None that I know of, intelligence agencies would not announce it.

Also, I think you may be confusing WikiLeaks for Russia, correct me if i'm wrong, but is there any proof to that allegation?
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Only the word of every intelligence agency in the US and Europe so in your mind no. Just like evolution if you can't see monkeys turning into humans then there is no proof.
 
iguanaman said:
Only the word of every intelligence agency in the US and Europe so in your mind no.
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Do you mean to say that intelligence agencies in the US and Europe are sources of truth?
 
iguanaman said:
Only the word of every intelligence agency in the US and Europe so in your mind no. Just like evolution if you can't see monkeys turning into humans then there is no proof.
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I see, just some allegations they refuse to back with a shred of proof. Proof, phtt! we don't need no stinking "proof" Trust us!
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I see, just some allegations they refuse to back with a shred of proof. Proof, phtt! we don't need no stinking "proof" Trust us!
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camlok said:
Now that is hilarious.

Can you say gullible?
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Just because Putin lies about everything is no reason to assume all do. We all know why Putin lies...and how he got to be the richest man in the world. It's because he is the biggest thief of all time and he has stolen it from you too. I do feel sorry.....for having your country stolen out from under you. He will pay for that some day. Have heart.
 
iguanaman said:
Just because Putin lies about everything is no reason to assume all do. We all know why Putin lies....
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Again, the incredible disconnect from reality. The fingerpointing, the incredible, stunning hypocrisy!

Who lied about Iraq/WMDs, who lied about 911, who lied about the Taliban, who were actually very good friends of the USA - did you know that they were wined and dined in the US, taken on tours, including Mt Rushmore? [an area stolen by the grand purveyors of genocide].

Who has lied about the US genocides, who has spread the voluminous propaganda about the US being a force for good - just think of the number of lies this has taken.
 
iguanaman said:
In what election did we hack the political parties computers and release the dirt on the party we opposed?
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I'd say many, but the US's more favored tactics are to terrorize people into not voting, torturing dissidents, which means people who are fighting against rank, open US intrusions into their countries' affairs, disappearing people, CIA hiring and training proxies in the fine art of wrecking countries' infrastructures, training in the CIA specialty of the fine art of torture. Bringing the poor of the street in to practice their torture on, ... .

Is there anyone more depraved than this?
 
JamesBY said:
Which has nothing to do with OP.
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The topic is meddling in other countries' elections and you advance this ludicrous notion that US meddling, US torture in aid of that meddling, US doing all the things that the US/CIA does with its immense resources to meddle in other countries' elections and affairs has nothing to do with the OP.

At the least, the stunning, incredible, phantasmagorical HYPOCRISY should be noted. Would you like to do that, James?
 
camlok said:
This is always a really hilarious comment that you hear from Americans. There is no country on the planet that has overthrown more government and meddled in other countries' elections than the terrorist USA.
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camlok said:
The topic is meddling in other countries' elections and you advance this ludicrous notion that US meddling, US torture in aid of that meddling, US doing all the things that the US/CIA does with its immense resources to meddle in other countries' elections and affairs has nothing to do with the OP.

At the least, the stunning, incredible, phantasmagorical HYPOCRISY should be noted. Would you like to do that, James?
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The US does what it does. The OP is about Russia, and if it comes push to shove the Russia colluded with Americans, people will be going to prison. Any Russians who were identified will be rendered to America whenever possible. Watch.
 
JamesBY said:
The US does what it does.
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That would be war crimes, terrorism, rapes, stealing others' wealth, ... .


JamesBY said:
The OP is about Russia, and if it comes push to shove the Russia colluded with Americans, people will be going to prison. Any Russians who were identified will be rendered to America whenever possible. Watch.
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What the hell does the part in bold mean?

The OP is about meddling in other countries' affairs, including elections. It is about US's incredible hypocrisy, always pointing fingers at others for things they are much more guilty of. It's propaganda of the rankest variety.

It's the propaganda that has led to all the current world problems and myriad deaths and suffering of innocents around the world. It is the sickening greed of a country that wants to have all the wealth.
 
camlok said:
That would be war crimes, terrorism, rapes, stealing others' wealth, ... .





What the hell does the part in bold mean?

The OP is about meddling in other countries' affairs, including elections. It is about US's incredible hypocrisy, always pointing fingers at others for things they are much more guilty of. It's propaganda of the rankest variety.

It's the propaganda that has led to all the current world problems and myriad deaths and suffering of innocents around the world. It is the sickening greed of a country that wants to have all the wealth.
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Get off of it. Russia is the Sick Man of Europe and Putin is the Silly Leader of the World. When Trump is gone, sooner than later, there is no where for Russia to hide.
 
JamesBY said:
Get off of it. Russia is the Sick Man of Europe and Putin is the Silly Leader of the World. When Trump is gone, sooner than later, there is no where for Russia to hide.
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I like your sources. You folks who believe the propaganda are always great at sources. Have you noted that it is the US that has overthrown governments in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, ... ?
 
camlok said:
I'd say many, but the US's more favored tactics are to terrorize people into not voting, torturing dissidents, which means people who are fighting against rank, open US intrusions into their countries' affairs, disappearing people, CIA hiring and training proxies in the fine art of wrecking countries' infrastructures, training in the CIA specialty of the fine art of torture. Bringing the poor of the street in to practice their torture on, ... .

Is there anyone more depraved than this?
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I'de say you've got KGB man Putin described to a tee. Here's a link to some of the many men he has had murdered a lot of them journalists.. At least 5 of the recent ones were in response to the leaks contained in the "Trump Dossier".
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List of people Putin is suspected of assassinating - Business Insider
 
iguanaman said:
I'de say you've got KGB man Putin described to a tee. Here's a link to some of the many men he has had murdered a lot of them journalists.. At least 5 of the recent ones were in response to the leaks contained in the "Trump Dossier".


list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3]List of people Putin is suspected of assassinating - Business Insider
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Good Lord, "suspected". Suspected by a US rag. It is commonly known in even US "media" that it is the US that has torture chambers and gulags around the planet, in places where the US has its own installed vicious, brutal right wing dictators.

That the US has illegally invaded sovereign nations over 70 times since WWII is also known and described by US media and US government sources. That the US has made frequent use of death squads is also known and described by US media and US government sources.

The hypocrisy is absolutely stunning. Especially when one considers how all this depravity has been hidden by a wall of lies. In the most, supposedly, open country in the world. How crazy!
 
camlok said:
Good Lord, "suspected". Suspected by a US rag. It is commonly known in even US "media" that it is the US that has torture chambers and gulags around the planet, in places where the US has its own installed vicious, brutal right wing dictators.

That the US has illegally invaded sovereign nations over 70 times since WWII is also known and described by US media and US government sources. That the US has made frequent use of death squads is also known and described by US media and US government sources.

The hypocrisy is absolutely stunning. Especially when one considers how all this depravity has been hidden by a wall of lies. In the most, supposedly, open country in the world. How crazy!
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Suspected is used only because we do not find people guilty without trial. The reality is that no one but Putin is suspected for these murders and some could ONLY have been done under his direction. Watch yourself....you maybe next. How does it feel to have a mass murderer as your leader?
 
iguanaman said:
Suspected is used only because we do not find people guilty without trial. The reality is that no one but Putin is suspected for these murders and some could ONLY have been done under his direction. Watch yourself....you maybe next. How does it feel to have a mass murderer as your leader?
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Why would you leap to the ridiculous conclusion that he is "my leader"? Why would you ignore all the tens of millions the US has slaughtered - by each and everyone of its leaders?

Phony finger pointing evil!

And furthermore, why are you all so comfortable with having all US presidents since WWII as Class A war criminals, people who would have hung if the US established Nuremberg Principles had been followed.

And to be the only country ever to be convicted of international terrorism, the only country ever to be condemned 24 years in a row for international terrorism. Really, try to focus a wee bit. The US is deeply evil. Over 90% of its years as a "nation" spent at war. What's the stat? Not one "peacetime president" ever.
 
iguanaman said:
Suspected is used only because we do not find people guilty without trial. ... How does it feel to have a mass murderer as your leader?
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The anti-truthers march again. Osama binLaden, how many thousands murdered in drone strikes. The US holds the record for bombing funerals and weddings, doesn't it?

How many illegal invasions, with all the attendant US mass murders? Over 75, mass murder count in the tens of millions.

That doesn't even begin to address the count from the genocides that were carried out before WWII.

How does it feel to have every one of your US presidents as mass murderers, as your leaders?
 
JamesBY said:
The US does what it does. The OP is about Russia, and if it comes push to shove the Russia colluded with Americans, people will be going to prison. Any Russians who were identified will be rendered to America whenever possible. Watch.
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What sort of collusion would be a crime? I'm just curious. Would CNN be guilty for publishing an email that was stolen by Russians?
 
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