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New Book About Aliens In Space

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Book Title: "Aliens:The Worlds Leading Scientists on the Search for Extraterrestrial Life" by Sarah Begley

Five Myths Debunked:

1. "Aliens would eat us." Not so in this book, amino acids and sugar and stuff like that..
2. "Aliens would breed with us. Not so as we can't even breed with monkeys.
3. "Aliens would look like us." They would most likely look nothing like humans.
4. "Aliens would be living creatures." No, most likely they would be robots capable of living forever.
5. "Aliens would steal our water and metals." No, asteroids would most likely be their target for that.
 
rhinefire said:
Book Title: "Aliens:The Worlds Leading Scientists on the Search for Extraterrestrial Life" by Sarah Begley

Five Myths Debunked:

1. "Aliens would eat us." Not so in this book, amino acids and sugar and stuff like that..
2. "Aliens would breed with us. Not so as we can't even breed with monkeys.
3. "Aliens would look like us." They would most likely look nothing like humans.
4. "Aliens would be living creatures." No, most likely they would be robots capable of living forever.
5. "Aliens would steal our water and metals." No, asteroids would most likely be their target for that.
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"Myths debunked", that's a wildly inaccurate choice of words.

Since we know nothing whatsoever about what aliens are like, we cannot dismiss any of those possibilities.
 
rhinefire said:
1. "Aliens would eat us." Not so in this book, amino acids and sugar and stuff like that..
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If the current experiments on the beginnings of life prove themselves...then similar chemicals would produce similar amino acids. So it's possible that if/when we get out to other worlds...those world might have food that we can eat. And if that's a possibility, then aliens could eat us. But it is highly unlikely.

I think it's highly unlikely since any species that has the ability to travel interstellar distances would likely have sorted out how to bring enough nibbles for the trip. Traveling half a gazilion miles just to pick up a 10-piece Human McNugget combo...doesn't make much sense.

2. "Aliens would breed with us. Not so as we can't even breed with monkeys.
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Perhaps not, but I'm sure that there are some kinksters who would love to bump uglies with the aliens...assuming that everyone's wedding tackle was compatible.

3. "Aliens would look like us." They would most likely look nothing like humans.
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This I do believe in. Star Trek and their hard-on for spirit gum and latex notwithstanding. The odds are that alien life would evolve following different lines to adapt to the conditions on their planet. Which could be wildly different.

4. "Aliens would be living creatures." No, most likely they would be robots capable of living forever.
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That one I'm calling Horse Hockey on. They would be alive, and would likely be mortal.

5. "Aliens would steal our water and metals." No, asteroids would most likely be their target for that.
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This one I've argued many times. What would aliens need that would be worth schlepping across half-a-gazillion miles for that they can't find in abundance in space? Diamonds? There's a collapsed stellar remnant out there that's a huge-ass diamond. Alcohol? There's a whole nebula of the stuff. Slaves? Not worth it in an industrialized society since it's going to take more effort to manage and control them than it is to make the product. Humans as food? Likely not compatible when it comes to the amino acids and even if they were...is it worth the trip when they can take a food species native to their world and transplant some to another world and create the largest schnagglemorph ranch in the cosmos? Iron? Hit the Oort Cloud and any asteroid belt. Tons of it out there.

There's nothing that can't be found in great abundance somewhere other than here.
 
The aliens are already here on earth. and of course there are aliens out there in space and also in other dimensions.
 
Pin dÁr said:
The aliens are already here on earth. and of course there are aliens out there in space and also in other dimensions.
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americanwoman said:
Of course.
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Now hold on, this point of view does have some merit.

Why would aliens come to this planet? There is one reason and it's a reason that we would want to go to another planet with alien life.

Because of curiosity. We'd be different from what they know and so curiosity might cause them to want to take a peek and see what we're doing.

I'm not going to take the conspiracy theorist point of view and think that the Umptyscrunchians from Omicron Persei 8 are wearing human skins and are ruling from behind the scenes (although that might explain Lord Damp Nut). Nor do I believe that everyone who claims to have run into the aliens were actually anally probed by them.

But they may have come to visit from time to time.

Aliens on other worlds is almost a guarantee if you just look at the sheer math of it all. That's a lot of universe out there for there to be life on only one miserable rockball in the middle of the arse end of space.

And science is postulating other dimensions in a multiverse theory...so if there's life in this one...why not others?
 
Hypnotoad said:
Now hold on, this point of view does have some merit.

Why would aliens come to this planet? There is one reason and it's a reason that we would want to go to another planet with alien life.

Because of curiosity. We'd be different from what they know and so curiosity might cause them to want to take a peek and see what we're doing.

I'm not going to take the conspiracy theorist point of view and think that the Umptyscrunchians from Omicron Persei 8 are wearing human skins and are ruling from behind the scenes (although that might explain Lord Damp Nut). Nor do I believe that everyone who claims to have run into the aliens were actually anally probed by them.

But they may have come to visit from time to time.

Aliens on other worlds is almost a guarantee if you just look at the sheer math of it all. That's a lot of universe out there for there to be life on only one miserable rockball in the middle of the arse end of space.

And science is postulating other dimensions in a multiverse theory...so if there's life in this one...why not others?
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You might be interested in a book I'm reading...

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3319132350/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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rhinefire said:
Book Title: "Aliens:The Worlds Leading Scientists on the Search for Extraterrestrial Life" by Sarah Begley

Five Myths Debunked:

1. "Aliens would eat us." Not so in this book, amino acids and sugar and stuff like that..
2. "Aliens would breed with us. Not so as we can't even breed with monkeys.
3. "Aliens would look like us." They would most likely look nothing like humans.
4. "Aliens would be living creatures." No, most likely they would be robots capable of living forever.
5. "Aliens would steal our water and metals." No, asteroids would most likely be their target for that.
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Addressing... 4. "Aliens would be living creatures." No, most likely they would be robots capable of living forever.

I haven't read the book and don't know the specifics of what was discussed under that point... but I assume this is rooted in Singularity expectations.

I am more than a little skeptical of the Singularity for a number of very good reasons but don't want to derail the thread.

I doubt the actual aliens themselves would be anything we'd recognize as "robots" or "machines". They might well be heavily genetically engineered, or possibly even use artificially crafted bodies (and transfer their minds or brains to new ones when the old one was worn out), but I suspect they'd have more in common with biological organisms than actual machines.

Now it could certainly be argued that we'd be more likely to encounter an ETC's robotic probes than the aliens themselves...
 
Hypnotoad said:
I'll give it a look...thanks.
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The book might sound biased against ETC but actually it is addressing 75 possible solutions to the Fermi Paradox postulated by a variety of scientists, futurists and etc.


The ideas are presented in three broad categories, only one of which is variations on "we are alone".


Most of the themes involve versions of "space is big and traveling/communicating light-years is hard."
 
Hypnotoad said:
Now hold on, this point of view does have some merit.

Why would aliens come to this planet? There is one reason and it's a reason that we would want to go to another planet with alien life.

Because of curiosity. We'd be different from what they know and so curiosity might cause them to want to take a peek and see what we're doing.

I'm not going to take the conspiracy theorist point of view and think that the Umptyscrunchians from Omicron Persei 8 are wearing human skins and are ruling from behind the scenes (although that might explain Lord Damp Nut). Nor do I believe that everyone who claims to have run into the aliens were actually anally probed by them.

But they may have come to visit from time to time.

Aliens on other worlds is almost a guarantee if you just look at the sheer math of it all. That's a lot of universe out there for there to be life on only one miserable rockball in the middle of the arse end of space.

And science is postulating other dimensions in a multiverse theory...so if there's life in this one...why not others?
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Good point, just waiting for confirmation!
 
Hypnotoad said:
If the current experiments on the beginnings of life prove themselves...then similar chemicals would produce similar amino acids. So it's possible that if/when we get out to other worlds...those world might have food that we can eat. And if that's a possibility, then aliens could eat us. But it is highly unlikely.

I think it's highly unlikely since any species that has the ability to travel interstellar distances would likely have sorted out how to bring enough nibbles for the trip. Traveling half a gazilion miles just to pick up a 10-piece Human McNugget combo...doesn't make much sense.



Perhaps not, but I'm sure that there are some kinksters who would love to bump uglies with the aliens...assuming that everyone's wedding tackle was compatible.



This I do believe in. Star Trek and their hard-on for spirit gum and latex notwithstanding. The odds are that alien life would evolve following different lines to adapt to the conditions on their planet. Which could be wildly different.



That one I'm calling Horse Hockey on. They would be alive, and would likely be mortal.



This one I've argued many times. What would aliens need that would be worth schlepping across half-a-gazillion miles for that they can't find in abundance in space? Diamonds? There's a collapsed stellar remnant out there that's a huge-ass diamond. Alcohol? There's a whole nebula of the stuff. Slaves? Not worth it in an industrialized society since it's going to take more effort to manage and control them than it is to make the product. Humans as food? Likely not compatible when it comes to the amino acids and even if they were...is it worth the trip when they can take a food species native to their world and transplant some to another world and create the largest schnagglemorph ranch in the cosmos? Iron? Hit the Oort Cloud and any asteroid belt. Tons of it out there.

There's nothing that can't be found in great abundance somewhere other than here.
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Point 4. Is a no brainer as if they had the tech to get here they would have the tech to send drones/robots just like we would do and have done reducing the risk of harm to humans. Hell, we have robots here much less n planets light years away!!
 
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