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Einstein was wrong!

Pin dÁr said:
You are just repeating the mainstream crap. it is worthless.
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You know...I tried. Yes I may be repeating the "mainstream crap", but all you're repeating is "Well you're wrong and stupid". I'm trying to discuss and debate, you're going "Nuh-uh". At least with the Flat Earthers, they'll make a counter argument.

I now leave you with a quote from one of my favorite Sci-Fi comedies. "You are a total, total... a word is yet to be invented to describe how totally whatever-it-is you are, but you are one. And a total, total one at that."
 
Quag said:
Computer simulation you say? Does that mean I am an android and I dream of electric sheep?
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Actually...according to the book, you're not even that real.

Pin has a tendency to pull his points from a book written by David Ickie called "Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion"

I haven't read the book, but the excerpts that I can read online as well as the all the synopsis...seem rather like Ickie watched the Matrix one too many times.
 
Hypnotoad said:
What?!? You want to retry that point? If there's no GPS, how does GPS work? That's like saying my TV works fine without TV.
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My bad, sorry was typo. Of course I ment gps can work fine without relativity. no problem at all.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Actually...according to the book, you're not even that real.

Pin has a tendency to pull his points from a book written by David Ickie called "Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion"

I haven't read the book, but the excerpts that I can read online as well as the all the synopsis...seem rather like Ickie watched the Matrix one too many times.
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I doubt Pin has read it either.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Actually...according to the book, you're not even that real.

Pin has a tendency to pull his points from a book written by David Ickie called "Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion"

I haven't read the book, but the excerpts that I can read online as well as the all the synopsis...seem rather like Ickie watched the Matrix one too many times.
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I hardly quote from that book at all. why do you say that then? lies?
 
Hypnotoad said:
You know...I tried. Yes I may be repeating the "mainstream crap", but all you're repeating is "Well you're wrong and stupid". I'm trying to discuss and debate, you're going "Nuh-uh". At least with the Flat Earthers, they'll make a counter argument.

I now leave you with a quote from one of my favorite Sci-Fi comedies. "You are a total, total... a word is yet to be invented to describe how totally whatever-it-is you are, but you are one. And a total, total one at that."
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ad hominems again?
 
Hypnotoad said:
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Here's the rub. A theory is a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena. A hypothesis is a guess that we test. A theory is a guess that we have tested and it seems to hold up. A theory is also something that we can change as more and more data comes in, replaced if needed.

Relativity explains too much and does it too well to be dismissed. However science is finding points and bits that are not working as well. This is causing a lot of scientists to take another look at Albert's works and start working on finding out what's up?
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Einstein himself would agree with this. I don't remember the exact quote but didn't say something to the effect that if relativity theory was found wanting it should be consigned to the garbage heap of history.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Yes of course he was. If he was not he would be in mainstream indoctri oeps ehh education.

He is wrong on all fronts and not only that he was a huge liar and plagiarist.


NONE of his theories have been proven to be right! NONE.
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Einstein's theories have been proven to predict what we see in the real to an astonishing degree of accuracy. It is perhaps the most proven theory in all of science. Does that mean it's "right"? Probably not. Eventually something will come along that's better
at explaining the universe but it will undoubtedly incorporate Einstein's work just as Einstein incorporates the work of Lorenz and Maxwell and Newton. That's the way science works.

Newton said it best when he said "if I have seen further than others it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."
 
Pin dÁr said:
ad hominems again?
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In the gravity is real thread I asked a question. I asked "if your belief that our universe is a simulation is correct, how can a phenomenon that was created within our simulation and is controlled by said simulation be in violation of the laws of that simulation?"

It was ignored and you made a few ad hominems yourself...directed at others. Granted they were pulling a few on you as well, but it's hard to take the moral high ground when you're doing the same thing.

I tried. I tried with that question and others like it to meet you halfway in discussion and debate. You declined the offer and went into the "We're all mindless sheeple indoctrinated into the global lie" mentality. So now I'm done with you.
 
Pin dÁr said:
moron einstein is an was promoted as a saint. As I said science is kind of a religion. One may not question a moron! lol


take the curving of space. what an idiotic idea. How can space be curved?????????????????????????? It can't.
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Space is curved by gravity. Picture this- a sheet stretched tight with a rock on the middle of it. The rock makes a dimple on the sheet. You roll a marble past the rock and the path of the marble curves as it goes by the dimple. That illustrates how gravity bends space. If the rock is heavy enough (gravity strong enough), what does the marble do? It spirals down the dimple (the gravity well) until it lands on the rock.

You're welcome.



edit- just in case you... well, it might be necessary for me to point out that this is an illustration, a way to think about the phenomenon. Space isn't really a sheet with rocks and marbles on it.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Space is curved by gravity. Picture this- a sheet stretched tight with a rock on the middle of it. The rock makes a dimple on the sheet. You roll a marble past the rock and the path of the marble curves as it goes by the dimple. That illustrates how gravity bends space. If the rock is heavy enough (gravity strong enough), what does the marble do? It spirals down the dimple (the gravity well) until it lands on the rock.

You're welcome.



edit- just in case you... well, it might be necessary for me to point out that this is an illustration, a way to think about the phenomenon. Space isn't really a sheet with rocks and marbles on it.
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"...what does the marble do? "

A smart one would go for a beer.
 
Gaius46 said:
Einstein's theories have been proven to predict what we see in the real to an astonishing degree of accuracy.
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Oh really? This is rather vague, can you be more concrete?

It is perhaps the most proven theory in all of science.
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Is it now? Can you be more concrete?
Does that mean it's "right"? Probably not. Eventually something will come along that's better
at explaining the universe but it will undoubtedly incorporate Einstein's work just as Einstein incorporates the work of Lorenz and Maxwell and Newton. That's the way science works.
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Are you sure?

Newton said it best when he said "if I have seen further than others it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."
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Yeeah, problem is einstein wasn't a 'giant' at all.
 
Grand Mal said:
Space is curved by gravity. Picture this- a sheet stretched tight with a rock on the middle of it. The rock makes a dimple on the sheet. You roll a marble past the rock and the path of the marble curves as it goes by the dimple. That illustrates how gravity bends space. If the rock is heavy enough (gravity strong enough), what does the marble do? It spirals down the dimple (the gravity well) until it lands on the rock.

You're welcome.



edit- just in case you... well, it might be necessary for me to point out that this is an illustration, a way to think about the phenomenon. Space isn't really a sheet with rocks and marbles on it.
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Exactly! so the analogy is wrong!


space cannot be curved. please define space!
 
Pin dÁr said:
Oh really? This is rather vague, can you be more concrete?



Is it now? Can you be more concrete?


Are you sure?



Yeeah, problem is einstein wasn't a 'giant' at all.
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I can but given everything else you've written it'd be a pointless exercise since you'd refuse to accept it so I'm not going to waste my time.
 
Gaius46 said:
I can but given everything else you've written it'd be a pointless exercise since you'd refuse to accept it so I'm not going to waste my time.
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that is your choice. I have no problem with that and respect your choice.
 
Cisero said:
:doh :doh
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Do you ever think that sometimes ignorance is deliberate, determined and premeditated?

"please define space"?
 
Pin dÁr said:
Exactly! so the analogy is wrong!


space cannot be curved. please define space!
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"Please define space"? Really?
Sorry, I don't know a simpler way to explain this. Sometimes you just have to settle for a 'way of thinking about it' when a precise definition isn't possible, or available.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Exactly! so the analogy is wrong!


space cannot be curved. please define space!
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If you don't even know the definition of space, how can you assert it cannot be curved?

Why do you think gravity doesn't exist?
 
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Space is the final frontier.
 
time dilation seems to work OK.
 
Pin dÁr said:
well, let's start with the data at the solar eclipse (Edison), The data was heavily massaged in favor of the stupid relativity theory.

There was a professor who teached relativity bull****, until he found out it to be logical incorrect.and wrote a book about it.
called "Science at the crossroads". Just read it.

Space can't be curved, How the hell do you want to do that?

GPS can work fine without gps

E=mc^2 was known Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before there was any ****ing relativity

His wife did his math!



and on and on it goes..


relativity is one big joke! it stalled physics for more then 100 years.
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^ pure gibberish
 
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