The Earth Is Flat!!![W:282]

[jrr777]

How would you respond to someone who tells you the earth is flat? Is it even possible for such a massive lie to be agreed upon and left unchecked? We are indoctrinated into the heliocentric model. We are shown since we could pretty much crawl, that where we live is on a sphere. We have no intelligence at that age to even bring an argument to the table. The best way to indoctrinate people no matter the cause (militarily, religiously, scientifically), is at a young age. If a group of people could get the majority to believe the earth is a sphere, when they know it's not, then they can get them to believe anything. All kings and queens throughout mankind have used the heavens to capture minds. With a flat earth cosmology they was able to predict eclipses, hold rituals for them, keep track of days, months, years, and all the seasons, they was able to navigate as well. And all civilizations even if they didn't know each-other, all agreed on a flat earth. Mayans using men of religion and science like all kingdoms, captured the minds of their people once they was able to predict eclipses. To the people the men of science and religion of the Mayans seemed all knowing or godly like. And all from using the heavens. If this took place with all kingdoms of history, why would people assume it no longer applies?

Most people believe that such a lie cannot take place, yet all through mankind's history kings, queens, or powers that be, have never given truth to the people. Battles, wars, all these was propagated with lies and deceptions, and then to cover them up, the people simply get more lies and deceptions. I think it's safe to say that we all live a life based on nothing but lies. Meaning we got to where we are today off of lies, kings and queens of the past telling nothing but lies, covering the lies with more lies. The people of all kingdoms never get the truth from the leaders. Today they call it, "classified" or "top secret", we don't get the truth. The truth should never be classified or top secret. And should be the only thing worth fighting for. Evil and wrong doings, is what's kept classified or top secret. They don't want us knowing what's truly going on for a reason. Why would religion, economics, or science be any different?

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

How would you respond to someone who tells you the earth is flat?

The Earth is not flat. This is a fact.

 

[mike2810]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

From the OP
"it's safe to say that we all live a life based on nothing but lies"

and this post is one of the lies. The earth is not flat. Way to much science that is not the "Govt" to hide what some deem is the world is flat.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

How would you respond to someone who tells you the earth is flat? Is it even possible for such a massive lie to be agreed upon and left unchecked? We are indoctrinated into the heliocentric model. We are shown since we could pretty much crawl, that where we live is on a sphere. We have no intelligence at that age to even bring an argument to the table. The best way to indoctrinate people no matter the cause (militarily, religiously, scientifically), is at a young age. If a group of people could get the majority to believe the earth is a sphere, when they know it's not, then they can get them to believe anything. All kings and queens throughout mankind have used the heavens to capture minds. With a flat earth cosmology they was able to predict eclipses, hold rituals for them, keep track of days, months, years, and all the seasons, they was able to navigate as well. And all civilizations even if they didn't know each-other, all agreed on a flat earth. Mayans using men of religion and science like all kingdoms, captured the minds of their people once they was able to predict eclipses. To the people the men of science and religion of the Mayans seemed all knowing or godly like. And all from using the heavens. If this took place with all kingdoms of history, why would people assume it no longer applies?

Most people believe that such a lie cannot take place, yet all through mankind's history kings, queens, or powers that be, have never given truth to the people. Battles, wars, all these was propagated with lies and deceptions, and then to cover them up, the people simply get more lies and deceptions. I think it's safe to say that we all live a life based on nothing but lies. Meaning we got to where we are today off of lies, kings and queens of the past telling nothing but lies, covering the lies with more lies. The people of all kingdoms never get the truth from the leaders. Today they call it, "classified" or "top secret", we don't get the truth. The truth should never be classified or top secret. And should be the only thing worth fighting for. Evil and wrong doings, is what's kept classified or top secret. They don't want us knowing what's truly going on for a reason. Why would religion, economics, or science be any different?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

 

[jrr777]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

From the OP
"it's safe to say that we all live a life based on nothing but lies"

and this post is one of the lies. The earth is not flat. Way to much science that is not the "Govt" to hide what some deem is the world is flat.

Tell me, how far away from "curvature" are you right now. Can you see the curvature? The argument is won and lost with curvature, so where is it.

They say standing at the beach looking out at a boat going over the horizon, the lost sight of the boat is a result of the curvature of earth. So any sort of elevation from that moment should start to reveal the curvature, yet when elevated it remains flat. Yet their saying the boat is behind the curve. That makes no sense whatsoever.

If the boat is blocked from the curvature of earth, then this should not be possible at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMImHOdr5iE

The curvature of the earth is symmetrical, if the boat is going over the curve in front of you, then the curvature should be noticed even more expanding from your left to right, in which a farther distance can be seen.

 

[jrr777]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

"It is much easier to fool a man, than to convince him he's been fooled." -Mark Twain-

 

[mike2810]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

As I posted, science is not on your side Jrr777. That said, what sources are you using to determine the earth is flat?

( you realize your MTwain quote could apply to flat earth believers as well .:mrgreen:

Flat Earthers debunked: How we know the Earth and Moon are spheres, not discs

"Anyone who has ever waited for a ship to dock will notice that a ship does not sporadically appear off the horizon but gradually emerges from beneath the ocean. The reason ships do not emerge from the ocean – nor fall off the edge of Earth – is because the planet is round. The fact that ships appear to emerge from the depths of the sea is an illusion cast by Earth’s curvature."

"If the Earth were flat, then we all would stand on an equal playing field. The problem, as anyone who has ever stood atop of a hill knows, is that the higher elevated you are, the more you can see. At certain heights, you can actually see the curvature of the Earth. This makes complete sense if the Earth is round and absolutely no sense if the Earth is flat.
Time Zones"

"Flat Earth theory is based upon an outdated understanding of gravity. Conventional understandings of gravity are incompatible with Flat Earth theory, because they require a spherical mass pulling all objects towards its center. Flat-Earthers propos that a disk-shaped Earth is accelerating “upward,” which gives the illusion of gravity. Of course, no explanation is given why or how the Earth is accelerating upwards.
As the noted list has shown, not only are Flat-Earthers misinformed – they’re square. Anyone who doubts the existence of gravity is invited to jump out of a three story building."

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=flat+earth+debunked&spf=378

 

[jrr777]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

The Earth is not flat. This is a fact.

You can do better than that can't you? Claiming something as fact and not backing it up. What's your solid proof of a ball earth? Or do you just go around regurgitating what you hear?

 

[mike2810]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

You can do better than that can't you? Claiming something as fact and not backing it up. What's your solid proof of a ball earth? Or do you just go around regurgitating what you hear?

Your claim of flat earth. It is yours to support and prove.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

Tell me, how far away from "curvature" are you right now. Can you see the curvature? The argument is won and lost with curvature, so where is it.

They say standing at the beach looking out at a boat going over the horizon, the lost sight of the boat is a result of the curvature of earth. So any sort of elevation from that moment should start to reveal the curvature, yet when elevated it remains flat. Yet their saying the boat is behind the curve. That makes no sense whatsoever.

If the boat is blocked from the curvature of earth, then this should not be possible at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMImHOdr5iE

The curvature of the earth is symmetrical, if the boat is going over the curve in front of you, then the curvature should be noticed even more expanding from your left to right, in which a farther distance can be seen.

The ancient Greeks knew that then Earth was round.

 

[11Bravo]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

Your claim of flat earth. It is yours to support and prove.

many research n science culd prove earth is flat. moon landin wuz fake so u cant prove n.e more than we can

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

You can do better than that can't you? Claiming something as fact and not backing it up. What's your solid proof of a ball earth? Or do you just go around regurgitating what you hear?

I am assuming that you are here to amuse yourself. Or that you are part of a college prank. The Earth is an oblate sphere.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

many research n science culd prove earth is flat. moon landin wuz fake so u cant prove n.e more than we can

We speak English here.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

You can do better than that can't you? Claiming something as fact and not backing it up. What's your solid proof of a ball earth? Or do you just go around regurgitating what you hear?

I own a telescope, you can see our brother and sister planets as well as some of their orbiting moons. Also from space we have images of our world.

Our understanding of rotation, day night cycles and orbits fit the theory, if the theory were not true then our satellites couldn't stay in orbit.

There is endless evidence of the shape of the world, including eyewitnesses. What evidence have you for your claim?

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

You can do better than that can't you? Claiming something as fact and not backing it up. What's your solid proof of a ball earth? Or do you just go around regurgitating what you hear?

*massive sigh*

We have satellite images that show that the Earth is round. If you want to deny photographic evidence then fine, that's your prerogative. I'll stick with reality.

 

[Fishking]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

How would you respond to someone who tells you the earth is flat? Is it even possible for such a massive lie to be agreed upon and left unchecked? We are indoctrinated into the heliocentric model. We are shown since we could pretty much crawl, that where we live is on a sphere. We have no intelligence at that age to even bring an argument to the table. The best way to indoctrinate people no matter the cause (militarily, religiously, scientifically), is at a young age. If a group of people could get the majority to believe the earth is a sphere, when they know it's not, then they can get them to believe anything. All kings and queens throughout mankind have used the heavens to capture minds. With a flat earth cosmology they was able to predict eclipses, hold rituals for them, keep track of days, months, years, and all the seasons, they was able to navigate as well. And all civilizations even if they didn't know each-other, all agreed on a flat earth. Mayans using men of religion and science like all kingdoms, captured the minds of their people once they was able to predict eclipses. To the people the men of science and religion of the Mayans seemed all knowing or godly like. And all from using the heavens. If this took place with all kingdoms of history, why would people assume it no longer applies?

Most people believe that such a lie cannot take place, yet all through mankind's history kings, queens, or powers that be, have never given truth to the people. Battles, wars, all these was propagated with lies and deceptions, and then to cover them up, the people simply get more lies and deceptions. I think it's safe to say that we all live a life based on nothing but lies. Meaning we got to where we are today off of lies, kings and queens of the past telling nothing but lies, covering the lies with more lies. The people of all kingdoms never get the truth from the leaders. Today they call it, "classified" or "top secret", we don't get the truth. The truth should never be classified or top secret. And should be the only thing worth fighting for. Evil and wrong doings, is what's kept classified or top secret. They don't want us knowing what's truly going on for a reason. Why would religion, economics, or science be any different?

You seem to be confusing ancient cultures being able to figure stuff out and thinking they thought the earth was flat and that they models were based off of flat earth calculations. This isn't true.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

I own a telescope, you can see our brother and sister planets as well as some of their orbiting moons. Also from space we have images of our world.

Our understanding of rotation, day night cycles and orbits fit the theory, if the theory were not true then our satellites couldn't stay in orbit.

There is endless evidence of the shape of the world, including eyewitnesses. What evidence have you for your claim?

None.

 

[jrr777]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

The ancient Greeks knew that then Earth was round.

How could they know the earth is round when it's flat?

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

How could they know the earth is round when it's flat?

Troll.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

If the Earth was flat then why would there be a centuries long conspiracy involving thousands of people with the objective of making us believe it was round?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

How would you respond to someone who tells you the earth is flat? Is it even possible for such a massive lie to be agreed upon and left unchecked? We are indoctrinated into the heliocentric model. We are shown since we could pretty much crawl, that where we live is on a sphere. We have no intelligence at that age to even bring an argument to the table. The best way to indoctrinate people no matter the cause (militarily, religiously, scientifically), is at a young age. If a group of people could get the majority to believe the earth is a sphere, when they know it's not, then they can get them to believe anything. All kings and queens throughout mankind have used the heavens to capture minds. With a flat earth cosmology they was able to predict eclipses, hold rituals for them, keep track of days, months, years, and all the seasons, they was able to navigate as well. And all civilizations even if they didn't know each-other, all agreed on a flat earth. Mayans using men of religion and science like all kingdoms, captured the minds of their people once they was able to predict eclipses. To the people the men of science and religion of the Mayans seemed all knowing or godly like. And all from using the heavens. If this took place with all kingdoms of history, why would people assume it no longer applies?

Most people believe that such a lie cannot take place, yet all through mankind's history kings, queens, or powers that be, have never given truth to the people. Battles, wars, all these was propagated with lies and deceptions, and then to cover them up, the people simply get more lies and deceptions. I think it's safe to say that we all live a life based on nothing but lies. Meaning we got to where we are today off of lies, kings and queens of the past telling nothing but lies, covering the lies with more lies. The people of all kingdoms never get the truth from the leaders. Today they call it, "classified" or "top secret", we don't get the truth. The truth should never be classified or top secret. And should be the only thing worth fighting for. Evil and wrong doings, is what's kept classified or top secret. They don't want us knowing what's truly going on for a reason. Why would religion, economics, or science be any different?

As soon as I understood that they believed the world to be flat, I'd simply chime in w/something like this:

"You are a stupid person. I try and talk to stupid people as little as possible. By the way, when will the Monkey People start the 2nd Spoon War?"

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

I own a telescope, you can see our brother and sister planets as well as some of their orbiting moons. Also from space we have images of our world.

Our understanding of rotation, day night cycles and orbits fit the theory, if the theory were not true then our satellites couldn't stay in orbit.

There is endless evidence of the shape of the world, including eyewitnesses. What evidence have you for your claim?

Also, the seasons are caused by the Earth's tilt on it's axis. How do the seasons occur if the Earth is flat? How is it possible to take a plane from Japan to California if the Earth is flat? And most of all: why haven't we found the edge of the Earth if it is supposedly flat?

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

Also, the seasons are caused by the Earth's tilt on it's axis. How do the seasons occur if the Earth is flat? How is it possible to take a plane from Japan to California if the Earth is flat? And most of all: why haven't we found the edge of the Earth if it is supposedly flat?

All the people in missing persons police files have fallen off the edge.

 

[jrr777]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

You seem to be confusing ancient cultures being able to figure stuff out and thinking they thought the earth was flat and that they models were based off of flat earth calculations. This isn't true.

That same experiment is done on a flat earth. Everybody wants to disregard their God given senses, and adhere to those who would have you destroyed for their benefit. And the boat over the curvature or horizon, was one of the main arguments for the earth being a ball. Let's dive into that, notice how this boat is not over a curve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_TTguKxnE

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The Earth Is Flat!!!

That same experiment is done on a flat earth. Everybody wants to disregard their God given senses, and adhere to those who would have you destroyed for their benefit. And the boat over the curvature or horizon, was one of the main arguments for the earth being a ball. Let's dive into that, notice how this boat is not over a curve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_TTguKxnE

Goodbye.