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Trump is now a war criminal

Pin dÁr

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After less then 100 days trump is a warcriminal!

Surprised? I am not.
 
Pin dÁr said:
After less then 100 days trump is a warcriminal!

Surprised? I am not.
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After 100 days a thread from a Trump hater calling him a war criminal!

Surprised? I am not.
 
Pin dÁr said:
you really have no idea????
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Perhaps if provided a link or any other kind of documentation, proof or intellectual support...

The Tourette poster is always a curiosity to me.
 
Wonder if the OP thinks there is any US president that isn't a war criminal?
 
Pin dÁr said:
After less then 100 days trump is a warcriminal!

Surprised? I am not.
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I'd say, you hate him and have lost all perspective.
 
joG said:
I'd say, you hate him and have lost all perspective.
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I don't hate him at all. But he is a very sick psychopathic madman,
 
Pin dÁr said:
I don't hate him at all. But he is a very sick psychopathic madman,
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When I was a British schoolboy in the - very - distant past there was a useful all purpose rejoinder to such claims. I went like this: "Take's one to know one!"
 
Sweden said:
When I was a British schoolboy in the - very - distant past there was a useful all purpose rejoinder to such claims. I went like this: "Take's one to know one!"
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oh, another cheap shot/ well , mate I don't kill people! The narcistic psychopathic Trump does!
 
holbritter said:
Ok, why is Trump a war criminal?
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Crimes of War – Aggression

Check this out. By definition and consensus, because of his attack against Syria, he is a war criminal.

Certainly not pleasant to contemplate that so many US presidents have been war criminals, but sometimes life is not pleasant.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Crimes of War – Aggression

Check this out. By definition and consensus, because of his attack against Syria, he is a war criminal.

Certainly not pleasant to contemplate that so many US presidents have been war criminals, but sometimes life is not pleasant.
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Yep a simple definition of mind over matter - if the UN does not mind gassing one's citizens to death then it does not matter. Then again, if the UN does not have an enforcement mechanism then is anything really a crime? The US has an enforcement mechanism, which it used, to punish (spank?) Syria for its alleged crime - placing the US in a much better position to make "law".
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep a simple definition of mind over matter - if the UN does not mind gassing one's citizens to death then it does not matter. Then again, if the UN does not have an enforcement mechanism then is anything really a crime? The US has an enforcement mechanism, which it used, to punish (spank?) Syria for its alleged crime - placing the US in a much better position to make "law".
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Do you mean to say that crimes do not exist unless they are described on paper? Were our efforts at Nuremberg just bureaucratic nonsense, a waste of time and effort?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Do you mean to say that crimes do not exist unless they are described on paper? Were our efforts at Nuremberg just bureaucratic nonsense, a waste of time and effort?
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Nope, my point is that without enforcement then rules (or laws), written or otherwise, are mere behavioral suggestions.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nope, my point is that without enforcement then rules (or laws), written or otherwise, are mere behavioral suggestions.
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Well, I do see your point, and recognize its practical implications. Yes, when offenders are not punished, it is clear that the rule of law is nonexistent.

But that does not negate the fact that certain actions in and of themselves are crimes, whether they are punished or not. That the enforcement mechanism is corrupt does not mean that crimes against humanity do not happen.

If you will engage in a hypothetical, would you agree that if a man rapes another, whether he is caught and punished by the authorities OR NOT, he has committed a crime, he has violated another's dignity and body?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Well, I do see your point, and recognize its practical implications. Yes, when offenders are not punished, it is clear that the rule of law is nonexistent.

But that does not negate the fact that certain actions in and of themselves are crimes, whether they are punished or not. That the enforcement mechanism is corrupt does not mean that crimes against humanity do not happen.

If you will engage in a hypothetical, would you agree that if a man rapes another, whether he is caught and punished by the authorities OR NOT, he has committed a crime, he has violated another's dignity and body?
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OK, but if enforcement is totally up to the victims and their friends (or some other disinterested third party like the UN) then who was going to prevent Assad's next gassing of those he chose as deserving of it?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but if enforcement is totally up to the victims and their friends (or some other disinterested third party like the UN) then who was going to prevent Assad's next gassing of those he chose as deserving of it?
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In the first place, you've conveniently completely ignored my hypothetical regarding rape. I must be on the right track....;)

In the second place, neither you nor the US nor anybody else can prove that Assad has gassed anybody at all. You make that assumption, but you do not know how to prove it.

Considering that relatively speaking Assad has been winning against ISIS now that Russia is helping him, why on God's Green Earth would the man suddenly gas children? There is no strategic or tactical advantage to doing that? Why would he do it?

And why would our Resident Hot Head in Chief want to send 59 Tomahawk missiles to retaliate for a crime that has not even been examined yet. Columbo he is not. Screw proper forensics, screw any investigation at all, let's just fire the missiles.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but if enforcement is totally up to the victims and their friends (or some other disinterested third party like the UN) then who was going to prevent Assad's next gassing of those he chose as deserving of it?
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If you default on your car loan, the govt will not repossess your car. The lender will hire a private firm to repossess it.

That does not mean there is no enforcement mechanism for the loan.
 
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Thoreau72 said:
Considering that relatively speaking Assad has been winning against ISIS now that Russia is helping him, why on God's Green Earth would the man suddenly gas children? There is no strategic or tactical advantage to doing that? Why would he do it?
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To drive a wedge between the US and Russia.

Trump had been pushing a plan to work with Russia to set up safe zones in Syria, which would be the equivalent of divying up Syria. By enticing the US into bombing Syria, he has scuttled those plans, leaving himself in control of all of Syria
 
Thoreau72 said:
In the first place, you've conveniently completely ignored my hypothetical regarding rape. I must be on the right track....;)

In the second place, neither you nor the US nor anybody else can prove that Assad has gassed anybody at all. You make that assumption, but you do not know how to prove it.

Considering that relatively speaking Assad has been winning against ISIS now that Russia is helping him, why on God's Green Earth would the man suddenly gas children? There is no strategic or tactical advantage to doing that? Why would he do it?

And why would our Resident Hot Head in Chief want to send 59 Tomahawk missiles to retaliate for a crime that has not even been examined yet. Columbo he is not. Screw proper forensics, screw any investigation at all, let's just fire the missiles.
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I noticed no need for independent confirmation of the rape allegations to make that rape become a crime in your hypothetical.
 
holbritter said:
Ok, why is Trump a war criminal?
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Why??????????????????

'I've rarely felt more fearful for the future': PETER OBORNE, the first journalist to visit the Syrian village hit by Trump's missiles, says peace has been set back years in a war where truth and logic have gone to hell
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And, of course, psychpaths LIE all the time:

For it is less than three months since he took office and pledged non-intervention in Syria.
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For it is less than three months since he took office and pledged non-intervention in Syria. Read more: [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4413520/I-feel-fearful-future-says-PETER-OBORNE.html#ixzz4eKwt0WF4]PETER OBORNE visits Syrian village hit by Trump's missiles | Daily Mail Online Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook[/URL]
 
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