Wikileaks Reveals Seth Rich not the Russians was their source.[W:21]

Of all media sources involved in today's politics Wikileaks is the only one with a 100% record of accuracy and honesty. There is no credible information disputing this. Several times Julian Assange has stated the Russian Government was not one of their sources.

The Wikileaks shtick is to leak/release documents and information the power elite don't want you to see.

They are bipartisan, they were just as big a pain in the ass for Bush as Obama.

Wikileaks released information that was devastating to the Hillary campaign. Assange stated that Wikileaks also had negative information on Trump but they did not bother with releases because it was all already in the public eye.

MSM did their jobs getting the dirt out on Trump. With Hillary the MSM actually did their best to hide it and ironically Wikileaks revealed they were dishonestly colluding with her campaign. CNN gave Hillary debate questions prior to the debate, Many of the gocha interview questions to Trump were provided by the Hillary campaign, Etc.

Last summer shortly after Wikileaks started releasing information devastating to Hillary Clinton 28 year old DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered. This incident really grabbed the world's attention when Julian Assange offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in the case. Assange refused to confirm or deny Seth Rich was a source.

Even Pro Democrat Party publications like BuzzFeed have reported interviews with unnamed Seth Rich friends: They claim like at least half the Democrat party he was an idealist who despised the Clintons was thoroughly disgusted with their corruption, especially how they stole the primaries from Bernie.

Guccifer 2.0 is a Romanian hacker and a Wikileaks source. He has no known ties to Russia. Originally he claimed to have just hacked the DNC and Clinton foundation. Now he says Seth Rich was also one of his sources and he has produce communications from last summer that tend to prove it.

The Link is to a Youtuber named the Hard Bastard, he put together a very clear concise 8 minute presentation on this. He has also posted a link to his source, and they posted links to their sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGh9f0cCZoE

There is more evidence of Bigfoot than that the Trump Campaign colluded with the Russians. Comney, Clapper and Merrill have all said as much.

After their loss the Hillary campaign and the Obama holdovers within the US intelligence agencies started claiming "Russians Hacked the Election." when that lie fell apart they started the Liars Negotiation of reducing it down to "The Russians hacked the DNC." And now they are down to "Russians attempted to influence the election."

Their evidence that the Russians attempted to influence the election doesn't even rise to the level of pathetic:
1. RTV documentaries from 3 years ago.
2. Amature Hacking with a Russian IP address. Pro hackers would leave no trace. With my $150 used laptop I could hack almost anything and with a VPN make it look like I'm anywhere in the world.

If there was any other evidence it would have been leaked 20 times over and CNN would show it 24-7.

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Casca XV said:

Of all media sources involved in today's politics Wikileaks is the only one with a 100% record of accuracy and honesty. There is no credible information disputing this. Several times Julian Assange has stated the Russian Government was not one of their sources.

The Wikileaks shtick is to leak/release documents and information the power elite don't want you to see.

They are bipartisan, they were just as big a pain in the ass for Bush as Obama.

Wikileaks released information that was devastating to the Hillary campaign. Assange stated that Wikileaks also had negative information on Trump but they did not bother with releases because it was all already in the public eye.

MSM did their jobs getting the dirt out on Trump. With Hillary the MSM actually did their best to hide it and ironically Wikileaks revealed they were dishonestly colluding with her campaign. CNN gave Hillary debate questions prior to the debate, Many of the gocha interview questions to Trump were provided by the Hillary campaign, Etc.

Last summer shortly after Wikileaks started releasing information devastating to Hillary Clinton 28 year old DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered. This incident really grabbed the world's attention when Julian Assange offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in the case. Assange refused to confirm or deny Seth Rich was a source.

Even Pro Democrat Party publications like BuzzFeed have reported interviews with unnamed Seth Rich friends: They claim like at least half the Democrat party he was an idealist who despised the Clintons was thoroughly disgusted with their corruption, especially how they stole the primaries from Bernie.

Guccifer 2.0 is a Romanian hacker and a Wikileaks source. He has no known ties to Russia. Originally he claimed to have just hacked the DNC and Clinton foundation. Now he says Seth Rich was also one of his sources and he has produce communications from last summer that tend to prove it.

The Link is to a Youtuber named the Hard Bastard, he put together a very clear concise 8 minute presentation on this. He has also posted a link to his source, and they posted links to their sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGh9f0cCZoE

There is more evidence of Bigfoot than that the Trump Campaign colluded with the Russians. Comney, Clapper and Merrill have all said as much.

After their loss the Hillary campaign and the Obama holdovers within the US intelligence agencies started claiming "Russians Hacked the Election." when that lie fell apart they started the Liars Negotiation of reducing it down to "The Russians hacked the DNC." And now they are down to "Russians attempted to influence the election."

Their evidence that the Russians attempted to influence the election doesn't even rise to the level of pathetic:
1. RTV documentaries from 3 years ago.
2. Amature Hacking with a Russian IP address. Pro hackers would leave no trace. With my $150 used laptop I could hack almost anything and with a VPN make it look like I'm anywhere in the world.

If there was any other evidence it would have been leaked 20 times over and CNN would show it 24-7.

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You wouldn't expect the Russian to have been the identifiable source, would you? I mean, their boss was kgb.

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The Russians colaberated with Rich to help throw the election towards Trump. The narrative must go on.

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joG said:

You wouldn't expect the Russian to have been the identifiable source, would you? I mean, their boss was kgb.

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So far the only Identification cited is the IP address with a VPN that is meaningless. If there were any others Democrats would have leaked it a long time ago.

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Casca XV said:

Of all media sources involved in today's politics Wikileaks is the only one with a 100% record of accuracy and honesty. There is no credible information disputing this. Several times Julian Assange has stated the Russian Government was not one of their sources.

The Wikileaks shtick is to leak/release documents and information the power elite don't want you to see.

They are bipartisan, they were just as big a pain in the ass for Bush as Obama.

Wikileaks released information that was devastating to the Hillary campaign. Assange stated that Wikileaks also had negative information on Trump but they did not bother with releases because it was all already in the public eye.

MSM did their jobs getting the dirt out on Trump. With Hillary the MSM actually did their best to hide it and ironically Wikileaks revealed they were dishonestly colluding with her campaign. CNN gave Hillary debate questions prior to the debate, Many of the gocha interview questions to Trump were provided by the Hillary campaign, Etc.

Last summer shortly after Wikileaks started releasing information devastating to Hillary Clinton 28 year old DNC staffer Seth Rich was murdered. This incident really grabbed the world's attention when Julian Assange offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in the case. Assange refused to confirm or deny Seth Rich was a source.

Even Pro Democrat Party publications like BuzzFeed have reported interviews with unnamed Seth Rich friends: They claim like at least half the Democrat party he was an idealist who despised the Clintons was thoroughly disgusted with their corruption, especially how they stole the primaries from Bernie.

Guccifer 2.0 is a Romanian hacker and a Wikileaks source. He has no known ties to Russia. Originally he claimed to have just hacked the DNC and Clinton foundation. Now he says Seth Rich was also one of his sources and he has produce communications from last summer that tend to prove it.

The Link is to a Youtuber named the Hard Bastard, he put together a very clear concise 8 minute presentation on this. He has also posted a link to his source, and they posted links to their sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGh9f0cCZoE

There is more evidence of Bigfoot than that the Trump Campaign colluded with the Russians. Comney, Clapper and Merrill have all said as much.

After their loss the Hillary campaign and the Obama holdovers within the US intelligence agencies started claiming "Russians Hacked the Election." when that lie fell apart they started the Liars Negotiation of reducing it down to "The Russians hacked the DNC." And now they are down to "Russians attempted to influence the election."

Their evidence that the Russians attempted to influence the election doesn't even rise to the level of pathetic:
1. RTV documentaries from 3 years ago.
2. Amature Hacking with a Russian IP address. Pro hackers would leave no trace. With my $150 used laptop I could hack almost anything and with a VPN make it look like I'm anywhere in the world.

If there was any other evidence it would have been leaked 20 times over and CNN would show it 24-7.

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Seth rich was believed to be a leaker, not the leaker. This is because seth died mysteriously, in what police called a robbery, while not a thing was stolen from him, with the police refusing to investigate further. This was compounded by the fact wikileaks offered a reward to find his killer, then mentioned that is why he never reveals his sources.

Wikileaks had one of the dnc emails showing that the dnc knew someone was leaking, and for them to have a more agressive stance to find and punish leakers, seths name was never mentioned though. Seth also died right before the first batch of emails was even announced by assange.

However more came afterwards well after his death. There is belief he is responsible for the emails released around the conventions, however he died before they were released, which most likely means there were multiple leakers, and not just a single guy.

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beerftw said:

Seth rich was believed to be a leaker, not the leaker. This is because seth died mysteriously, in what police called a robbery, while not a thing was stolen from him, with the police refusing to investigate further. This was compounded by the fact wikileaks offered a reward to find his killer, then mentioned that is why he never reveals his sources.

Wikileaks had one of the dnc emails showing that the dnc knew someone was leaking, and for them to have a more agressive stance to find and punish leakers, seths name was never mentioned though. Seth also died right before the first batch of emails was even announced by assange.

However more came afterwards well after his death. There is belief he is responsible for the emails released around the conventions, however he died before they were released, which most likely means there were multiple leakers, and not just a single guy.

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All this that you post may very well be the truth. None of it shows any Russian involvement, and, as the OP shows, the Russian meme from the left grows ever weaker in its credibility every day.

So what to make of those that claimed Russian intrigue? Yet more lies for the public to consume? To believe? To integrate and flog on as truth?
Sounds like 1984's Ministry of Truth to me.

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beerftw said:

Seth rich was believed to be a leaker, not the leaker. This is because seth died mysteriously, in what police called a robbery, while not a thing was stolen from him, with the police refusing to investigate further. This was compounded by the fact wikileaks offered a reward to find his killer, then mentioned that is why he never reveals his sources.

Wikileaks had one of the dnc emails showing that the dnc knew someone was leaking, and for them to have a more agressive stance to find and punish leakers, seths name was never mentioned though. Seth also died right before the first batch of emails was even announced by assange.

However more came afterwards well after his death. There is belief he is responsible for the emails released around the conventions, however he died before they were released, which most likely means there were multiple leakers, and not just a single guy.

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Yes, it's possible and probably even likely Seth Rich was not the only leaker.

The Wikileaks release was probably not how the DNC discovered the leaks. Seth Rick being murdered was probably meant as a message to the other leakers.

Wikileaks meticulously verifies everything. They usually receive info months before releasing it.

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The OP story is recycled Russian propaganda from last summer....





Such desperate attempts to divert suspicion away from the Russia/Trump campaign connections highly suggests the FBI investigation is getting closer to the truth.

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Casca XV said:

Yes, it's possible and probably even likely Seth Rich was not the only leaker.

The Wikileaks release was probably not how the DNC discovered the leaks. Seth Rick being murdered was probably meant as a message to the other leakers.

Wikileaks meticulously verifies everything. They usually receive info months before releasing it.

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If Seth Meyer was the leaker...Assange would've said so a long time ago when he tried to pin his murder on the DNC....because like you know, Assange is so honest and all. Not.

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Casca XV said:

So far the only Identification cited is the IP address with a VPN that is meaningless. If there were any others Democrats would have leaked it a long time ago.

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That is much as I would suspect.

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It pretty much reduces down to this:

1. The "government" has been surveilling Trump and team for a minimum of 9 months.
2. The "government" has unmasked the names of protected American citizens AND leaked, that we so far know of, two of them. Flynn and Carter Page.
3. Both are very definitely white and male, so was this, in addition to being a national security breach of law, a hate crime, a backlash by a black male in ideological soul mate collusion with a white female, a willing black female singing backup to make the other two look good? Okay, so that part is only sarcasm, but it is a card, be it a joker, that must at least be laid down since we all know what the other side would be laying out there if the deck were from their "casino" instead of Trump's.
4. Confirmation that there was no, that there IS no smoking gun regarding ANY true collusion with the Russian government, or even minions doing its dirty work. Confirmation in the very fact that, with all federal resources legally and illegally at their disposal, that not a thing but mere innuendo has, despite leaks of felony proportions, been presented for view.
4a. Does any reasoning person believe for one second that if they, the Russian collusion accusers and especially those in control of the power, had anything, anything at all, that they would have allowed Trump to be elected, to be inaugurated, to be seated in the place where, if he can navigate the minefield laid down in the wake of former sinking ship of state firing all guns to the rear as it raced to Tahiti.
4b. That all that they have come up with is enough to embarrass Flynn with his non truthfullness, yet no illegality, to Pence to the point where they induced the right to give him consequences. Does anybody think that, after all that the IRS, the Justice Department, the State Department, the FBI, the DEA among others did while in the employ of the o bomb admin with no real consequences, that this was supposed to be some truly big big deal? This Carter Page dude seems like a hanger on, a nobody
5. That by playing this hand the O bomb administration, thinking there was NO way that Trump would win, that they could perform the magic of coincidental [read: synchronized] incidental surveillances with its ancillary unmaskings and leaks, because they rest assured that Hillary was the next cover- upperer- in- chief?
6. That the establishment, the parties they control, the media they control, the social influence peddling weight that they can bring to bear is to rip a Constitutionally elected President from his duly lawfully appointed post?
7. That this is, by definition, constitutes treason : the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
8. That because of this pushing, this vast overstepping when they thought they could get away with it, the left, and particularly O bomb and Rice, Farkus minimum, are now involved in a political life and death struggle, one side to go on to ignominius humiliating defeat a la Richard Milhous Nixon?
9. As a side bar, could it be that misDirector Comey in true tragic comedy fashion is hanging on to this 'cointel' investigation so that he can continue not answering any specifics... then with the incessant leaking left with more and deeper innuendo hoping for just enough economic, military, social unrest to make some headway Congressionally by midterms so that, keeping their fingers crossed, that newly elected allies and already allies in House and Senate can walk this back to the entrance of the nearest political maze that, in addition to the smoke, haze and mirrors, has no factual exit?

Two side things I wonder about. Comey lied, 'misspoke' perhaps but doubtful as careful as he is parsing his words so scrupulously, under oath in Congressional testimony saying there was no DNI in place to report to in 2016 when questioned by Republican Congresswoman Stefanik. Clapper, the DNI in 2016, seems to confirm that, at the very least, he was not reported to upon this FISA application when he had his March 5 exchange with Chuck Todd.

CLAPPER: I can deny it. TODD: There is no FISA court order? CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

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Moot said:

The OP story is recycled Russian propaganda from last summer....

"...Trump campaign surrogates are fueling a conspiracy theory that a murdered Democratic National Committee staffer was connected to the hacking of the DNC, a theory being pushed by WikiLeaks and the Russian state-controlled press. There’s a big problem, however, with the theory: it doesn’t make any sense when compared to all the available evidence....

Trump allies, Assange, and the Russian government are somewhat unlikely cohorts but they all have two things in common – hatred of Hillary Clinton and an interest in diverting suspicion away from the real culprits in the DNC hack, Russian intelligence services seeking to interfere in the U.S. election to Trump’s benefit.

Donald Trump’s longtime friend Roger Stone has been at the forefront of the Trump camp effort to try to connect the Russian hacking of the DNC to the tragic death of 27-year old Seth Rich, a DNC staffer who was shot and killed in early July in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington. Stone says his claims are based on statements by Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder who released the hacked DNC emails and is threatening to release more. Stone also claims to be in direct contact with Assange....

Rich’s family has publicly asked Assange and Trump not to use his death for their own political purposes. “Some are attempting to politicize this horrible tragedy, and in their attempts to do so, are actually causing more harm than good and impeding on the ability for law enforcement to properly do their job,” a spokesman for the family said Wednesday.

Assange and Stone responded Thursday by attacking Clinton and the Rich family...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-about-the-dnc-hacks/?utm_term=.854cdc7ad802​

Such desperate attempts to divert suspicion away from the Russia/Trump campaign connections highly suggests the FBI investigation is getting closer to the truth.

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All this from the same Washington Post that got caught lying about Russia hacking a US power grid.

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Moot said:

If Seth Meyer was the leaker...Assange would've said so a long time ago when he tried to pin his murder on the DNC....because like you know, Assange is so honest and all. Not.

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Assange never tried to pin the murder on anyone, he only offered the reward with no other comment. Feel free quote a lie Assange has ever been caught in.

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Casca XV said:

Assange never tried to pin the murder on anyone, he only offered the reward with no other comment. Feel free quote a lie Assange has ever been caught in.

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Sure, he did....and now he's trying to say that Rich was the leaker. But dead men tell no tales...and unfortunately, Rich isn't here to defend himself...but his family is and they've asked Assange and Stone to stop politicizing their son ....and in return Assange and Stone viciously attacked them.

Assange, Stone and Russian propaganda go together like three peas in a pod. All three are in cahoots to politicize Rich's murder to distract from the Russian hacking and interference in the election. Meanwhile, the investigation is moving ahead full throttle.

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My beef with wikileaks is that they only seem to target the U.S. and American politicians. There's plenty of evil done by other countries. It's almost like they're hacking/leaking activities are being directed by one of U.S.'s enemies.

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Moot said:

If Seth Meyer was the leaker...Assange would've said so a long time ago when he tried to pin his murder on the DNC....because like you know, Assange is so honest and all. Not.

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Ummm.. I think you meant Seth Rich. This is Seth Meyers:

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lurchadams said:

Ummm.. I think you meant Seth Rich. This is Seth Meyers:

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LOL Yes, I meant Seth Rich.

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eohrnberger said:

All this that you post may very well be the truth. None of it shows any Russian involvement, and, as the OP shows, the Russian meme from the left grows ever weaker in its credibility every day.

So what to make of those that claimed Russian intrigue? Yet more lies for the public to consume? To believe? To integrate and flog on as truth?
Sounds like 1984's Ministry of Truth to me.

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Russia likely did interfer, but I do not believe they hacked the dnc atleast to release the emails. If russia hacked them they would keep them to themselves to use as a bargaining chip against hillary if she won, while dnc staffers had no bargains to make, but many were outraged over how bernie was treated during the primaries, which is a more likely motive.

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beerftw said:

Russia likely did interfer, but I do not believe they hacked the dnc atleast to release the emails. If russia hacked them they would keep them to themselves to use as a bargaining chip against hillary if she won, while dnc staffers had no bargains to make, but many were outraged over how bernie was treated during the primaries, which is a more likely motive.

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Agreed. I'm left with the same impression. Yet there are many, who still swear that the truth is that the Russians hacked the DNC and passed them to WikiLeaks.

Even from my limited knowledge of intel, it doesn't seem likely that the Russians would allow it to be known that they hacked the DNC and had copies of those emails. When the opposition knows you know, the advantage of knowing it is negated. The advantage is knowing without the opposition knowing you know.

While we don't know for certain if the Russians hacked the DNC, if they had, they'd have left no traces for anyone else to find, again on the same principal outlined above.

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Because they have been prosecuted and persecuted by the government, I go with the several whistleblowers. Because of their collective experience and knowledge in the field, I go with the whistleblowers.

Ed Binney, career officer with NSA, pointed out from the beginning that this was a leak, not a hack. Only a few individuals within the mainstream media acknowledged that point.

Most americans are quite gullible, following the Pied Piper down to the sea to jump off the cliff, en masse.

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

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Moot said:

Sure, he did....and now he's trying to say that Rich was the leaker. But dead men tell no tales...and unfortunately, Rich isn't here to defend himself...but his family is and they've asked Assange and Stone to stop politicizing their son ....and in return Assange and Stone viciously attacked them.

Assange, Stone and Russian propaganda go together like three peas in a pod. All three are in cahoots to politicize Rich's murder to distract from the Russian hacking and interference in the election. Meanwhile, the investigation is moving ahead full throttle.

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Recorded communications from last summer do tell tales

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Gina said:

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Specify what makes this a conspiracy theory?

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Casca XV said:

Specify what makes this a conspiracy theory?

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Because you are relying on a what CIA director Pompeo calls a "hostile intelligence service" for your info. Wikileaks is nothing but an arm of Russian intelligence who's "job" is spreading fake news as well as illegal hacks against the west. Either you are a dupe or a paid troll for Putin. Take your pick.

Mike Pompeo, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, slammed WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange in a full-throated public denunciation Thursday before an audience for foreign policy specialists in Washington, D.C.

"WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service," he said in prepared remarks at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

"Assange is a narcissist who has created nothing of value," Pompeo said. "He relies on the dirty work of other to make himself famous. He is a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen.

"And in Kansas, we know something about false Wizards," said the former Kansas congressman in his first public remarks as CIA director.

Pompeo accused "Assange and his ilk" of making common cause with dictators as "they try unsuccessfully to cloak themselves and their actions in the language of liberty and privacy."
The CIA director said the U.S. intelligence community determined that Russian military intelligence used WikiLeaks to release information obtained through cyber operations against the Democratic National Committee. He also described the Russian state-owned television network, RT, as that country's "primary propaganda outlet" and said it actively collaborated with WikiLeaks.

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CIA Director Pompeo Denounces WikiLeaks As 'Hostile Intelligence Service' : The Two-Way : NPR