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Distribution of body parts[W:374]

Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Well Holy Cow, Horace!!! you've been watching the Science Channel I guess.

Now tell me something I don't already know, and offer a persuasive argument about what ACTUALLY moved those pieces and bodies out there. So far all you offer is experiments in a high school lab. Whoopee.

Maybe it's the cop in me Gam. I'm trying to analyze an historic event, you're playing tiddly-winks and dodging any honest debate. No sir, I am definitely NOT surprised.
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See post #50 above. You believe gravity cannot move things horizontally. So what moved those pieces horizontally so that they landed outside the footprint?
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

gamolon said:
See post #50 above. You believe gravity cannot move things horizontally. So what moved those pieces horizontally so that they landed outside the footprint?
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If it were a rainy day and I was bored Gam, I would love to sit here and entertain you by answering your frivolous and irrelevant questions, but it's not. I'm headed to the beach for a late afternoon walk and swim.

Hoping that your rational and analytical powers will return to the state they were in when you first analyzed trajectories all those years ago in such fine fashion. If you've recently changed your diet or lifestyle, it may have harmed your analytical powers. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Now tell me something I don't already know, and offer a persuasive argument about what ACTUALLY moved those pieces and bodies out there. So far all you offer is experiments in a high school lab.
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You can lead a horse to water...

Again, watch the videos I posted of the models very carefully. What moved certain pieces horizontally so that they moved OUTSIDE THE FOOTPRINT of the model when it was intact. Gravity is the only force, but you say that gravity cannot do that. So what did Mr. cop?
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
If it were a rainy day and I was bored Gam, I would love to sit here and entertain you by answering your frivolous and irrelevant questions, but it's not. I'm headed to the beach for a late afternoon walk and swim.

Hoping that your rational and analytical powers will return to the state they were in when you first analyzed trajectories all those years ago in such fine fashion. If you've recently changed your diet or lifestyle, it may have harmed your analytical powers. :mrgreen:
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You are in full retreat.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

zyzygy said:
You are in full retreat.
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Hit the nail on the head.

The answer is right there in front of him in those videos yet we wants to look away and declare my posts as irrelevant to the discussion and frivolous. Then he posts about my possible change in diet and him going for a walk and swim. And my posts are irrelevant?

:roll:

Go figure...
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

gamolon said:
Hit the nail on the head.

The answer is right there in front of him in those videos yet we wants to look away and declare my posts as irrelevant to the discussion and frivolous. Then he posts about my possible change in diet and him going for a walk and swim. And my posts are irrelevant?

:roll:

Go figure...
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As I said HD doesn't do logic/reason/facts or evidence with him it is all about emotional response based on his fear/hatred of the Ebil US govt.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

gamolon said:
Hit the nail on the head.

The answer is right there in front of him in those videos yet we wants to look away and declare my posts as irrelevant to the discussion and frivolous. Then he posts about my possible change in diet and him going for a walk and swim. And my posts are irrelevant?

:roll:

Go figure...
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Our truther is not interested in the truth.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
You're the one who did the superb diagrams and explanation regarding trajectory and final resting spot of the engine in downtown Manhattan, and that's not sarcasm. You do the math Gamolon, you're much better at that. I'm good at the big picture thing, you're into the math problems.

Let's assign an approximate mass to the structural piece impaled into the AMEX building, assign an approximate distance it was moved, and then calculate the energy required to move it. FYI, in years gone by other posters have done just that, and their calculations showed the energy required to be significant. I can't remember the number, but COMMON SENSE plays a role. If the piece were put on a low-boy trailer and moved by truck to the AMEX building, it would take a pretty good truck to pull it there.

Your lack of common sense does have validity.
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Go ahead. Do the math.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Impact of debris on what?

He calculated mass, distance, and energy required to move the mass that distance. WTF haven't you done the math?
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Why haven't you?
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
II'm headed to the beach for a late afternoon walk and swim.
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Wow is that one long swim/walk!!!

Figure out what forces caused those pieces of the models in the videos I posted earlier to move horizontally out beyond the original footprint?
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

gamolon said:
Wow is that one long swim/walk!!!

Figure out what forces caused those pieces of the models in the videos I posted earlier to move horizontally out beyond the original footprint?
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It's always fun to see him run away and hide. Unfortunately he will be back once he thinks people have forgotten all about his failure to back up any of his nonsense
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Deuce said:
Go ahead. Do the math.
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Gam is the math dude, not I. He doesn't want to do the math because he knows what it will show.

High Explosive devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces, not gravity as NIST claims. You know that too, whatever your math skills might be. If the math supported the NIST position, your position and Gam's position, you would embrace it.

The math works against your position, so you won't use it.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

gamolon said:
Wow is that one long swim/walk!!!

Figure out what forces caused those pieces of the models in the videos I posted earlier to move horizontally out beyond the original footprint?
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The demonstrations shown on your video are very nice, but they have no relevance to what happened at WTC. No bowling balls, no 2x4, no springs. All this shows is the desperation of your efforts to prop up the NIST conclusion, nothing more.

You refuse to show any relevance between your experiments and what was observed at WTC. Are you going to bring in The Science Guy next? :lol:
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Gam is the math dude, not I. He doesn't want to do the math because he knows what it will show.

High Explosive devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces, not gravity as NIST claims. You know that too, whatever your math skills might be. If the math supported the NIST position, your position and Gam's position, you would embrace it.

The math works against your position, so you won't use it.
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Why won't you use it? Post your calculations.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Gam is the math dude, not I. He doesn't want to do the math because he knows what it will show.

High Explosive devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces, not gravity as NIST claims. You know that too, whatever your math skills might be. If the math supported the NIST position, your position and Gam's position, you would embrace it.

The math works against your position, so you won't use it.
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High explosive devices, not nukes?
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Gam is the math dude, not I. He doesn't want to do the math because he knows what it will show.

High Explosive devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces, not gravity as NIST claims. You know that too, whatever your math skills might be. If the math supported the NIST position, your position and Gam's position, you would embrace it.

The math works against your position, so you won't use it.
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Apparently you are unfamiliar with math
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

zyzygy said:
High explosive devices, not nukes?
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High explosive + nanothermite +non exploding radioactive mini-nukes that explode and emit no radiation.
It required all 3 to bring down the towers!
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
The demonstrations shown on your video are very nice, but they have no relevance to what happened at WTC. No bowling balls, no 2x4, no springs. All this shows is the desperation of your efforts to prop up the NIST conclusion, nothing more.

You refuse to show any relevance between your experiments and what was observed at WTC. Are you going to bring in The Science Guy next? :lol:
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Funny. Let me ask you. In the opening of the OP vid, it shows bodies in rubble. It is clear that it was not a very tall structure nor was it from the WTC. Yet you seem to accept that the results of the collapse would be the same on a human body. You seem to believe that the size, weight, how violent the collapse plays no role in what happens to a body.

Funny, (different threads) you supported a poster who used his tube tower to explain why it had to be CD. So it was ok for that vid, because it supported your view, but vids showing your wrong are not. Got it. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Gam is the math dude, not I. He doesn't want to do the math because he knows what it will show.

High Explosive devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces, not gravity as NIST claims. You know that too, whatever your math skills might be. If the math supported the NIST position, your position and Gam's position, you would embrace it.

The math works against your position, so you won't use it.
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Please provide links to articles that support your claim of "high explosives devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces".
Failure to do so indicates it is your typical opinion trying to be presented as facts.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
You refuse to show any relevance between your experiments and what was observed at WTC.
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Oh I AM showing you the relevance. It's right there under your nose, but you want to instead play games and not answer any questions.

I'll ask you yet again. You made the statement that gravity cannot move things horizontally. So what force made some of those pieces fall outside of the original footprint? You not wanting to answer this speaks volumes.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

Thoreau72 said:
Gam is the math dude, not I. He doesn't want to do the math because he knows what it will show.
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So if your not the math dude, ho win the world do you know what can be shown by the math?

:lol:

Anyways, I don't need math to show your statement wrong. You claim that gravity cannot be responsible for moving pieces horizontally right? So for the umpteenth time, what caused some of the pieces to move horizontally and fall outside the original footprint in the videos I posted? We need to correct your supposed understanding of a a group of falling objects and how they can interact with each other. In order to do that, you need to be honest with yourself and answer the question I have posed to you.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

mike2810 said:
Funny. Let me ask you. In the opening of the OP vid, it shows bodies in rubble. It is clear that it was not a very tall structure nor was it from the WTC. Yet you seem to accept that the results of the collapse would be the same on a human body. You seem to believe that the size, weight, how violent the collapse plays no role in what happens to a body.

Funny, (different threads) you supported a poster who used his tube tower to explain why it had to be CD. So it was ok for that vid, because it supported your view, but vids showing your wrong are not. Got it. :mrgreen:
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Consistency is not his strong point.
 
Re: Distribution of body parts

mike2810 said:
Please provide links to articles that support your claim of "high explosives devices is what ejected those pieces and blew bodies into small pieces".
Failure to do so indicates it is your typical opinion trying to be presented as facts.
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Please explain your claim that those pieces and bodies thrown away from the towers were taken there by gravity, the NIST explanation.
 
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