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Debunk This If You Can[W:107]

zyzygy said:
Dead thread.
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It ain't over, till it's over!

Thus far the consensus at this point in the thread has presented little opposition to the accusations presented by the OP.

So far we can assume by evidence delivered that the insinuation that Obama is a Muslim is highly suspect since evidence was provided that he eats bacon. Evidence has been provided that the original list of accusations attributed the the talk show host listed in the OP was not authored by that person.

Otherwise everything else posted in the OP still stands as unchallenged accusations against President Obama.
 
TheHammer said:
It ain't over, till it's over!

Thus far the consensus at this point in the thread has presented little opposition to the accusations presented by the OP.

So far we can assume by evidence delivered that the insinuation that Obama is a Muslim is highly suspect since evidence was provided that he eats bacon. Evidence has been provided that the original list of accusations attributed the the talk show host listed in the OP was not authored by that person.

Otherwise everything else posted in the OP still stands as unchallenged accusations against President Obama.
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Obama eats babies. Who will challenge that accusation?
 
"Obama's a MOOSLIM!"
"Trump's a RUSKIE!"
Jesus Christ, America. What next? JFK was a Communist?
 
Fishking said:
Obama, Kerry absent from unity rally in Paris - CNNPolitics.com

I know it's confusing because France has been attacked so many times.
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Good point. Obama indeed was not at the unity march in 2015 and it was a pretty big deal in ALL the media at that time. CNN and Fox reported it fairly objectively. MSNBC turned themselves on their heads trying to justify the absence.

But some thoughts about this thread.

You don't have to put all those quotes into context, most especially those that we all know by heart and know the circumstances of the event they were taken from. Most of us have seen the news clips and you tube videos again and again and again as the various components were discussed.

And all Gallagher, or whoever wrote that list, did was pull all those separate and unrelated events together into one list and suggested the inference that could be drawn from it. There was no need to reference most of them any more than it would be necessary to put "Remember Pearl Harbor" or "Remember the Alamo" into their full context. We know what the context is.

It would be like one of us saying "I am not a liberal" or "I am not a libertarian" or "I am not a conservative" and putting together a composite of the member's posts over a number of years that would suggest that indeed the person was what he claimed not to be.

Does Obama embrace the Muslim faith? I don't know for certain. If pressed to take a stand, I would say most likely not. But in all honesty, the list in the OP is mostly accurate regardless of the context and extenuating circumstances, and he has given people reason to to believe he is as drawn to Islam as he is to Christianity.

So just reading through the thread, I think most missed a great opportunity to have an honest and interesting discussion that could have been interesting and might even have educated some people. Instead, as usual, most of the usual suspects attacked the member who posted the OP and/or declared the OP invalid based on just as vague insinuations as some of the items on the list of the OP.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Good point. Obama indeed was not at the unity march in 2015 and it was a pretty big deal in ALL the media at that time. CNN and Fox reported it fairly objectively. MSNBC turned themselves on their heads trying to justify the absence.

But some thoughts about this thread.

You don't have to put all those quotes into context, most especially those that we all know by heart and know the circumstances of the event they were taken from. Most of us have seen the news clips and you tube videos again and again and again as the various components were discussed.

And all Gallagher, or whoever wrote that list, did was pull all those separate and unrelated events together into one list and suggested the inference that could be drawn from it. There was no need to reference most of them any more than it would be necessary to put "Remember Pearl Harbor" or "Remember the Alamo" into their full context. We know what the context is.

It would be like one of us saying "I am not a liberal" or "I am not a libertarian" or "I am not a conservative" and putting together a composite of the member's posts over a number of years that would suggest that indeed the person was what he claimed not to be.

Does Obama embrace the Muslim faith? I don't know for certain. If pressed to take a stand, I would say most likely not. But in all honesty, the list in the OP is mostly accurate regardless of the context and extenuating circumstances, and he has given people reason to to believe he is as drawn to Islam as he is to Christianity.

So just reading through the thread, I think most missed a great opportunity to have an honest and interesting discussion that could have been interesting and might even have educated some people. Instead, as usual, most of the usual suspects attacked the member who posted the OP and/or declared the OP invalid based on just as vague insinuations as some of the items on the list of the OP.
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The member does not know the meaning of the word discussion.
 
zyzygy said:
The member does not know the meaning of the word discussion.
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Anytime I get on my soap box like that though, I always have a glimmer of hope of winning one convert who is willing to learn the meaning of discussion though. :)
 
AlbqOwl said:
Anytime I get on my soap box like that though, I always have a glimmer of hope of winning one convert who is willing to learn the meaning of discussion though. :)
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A forlorn hope in his case.
 
zyzygy said:
A forlorn hope in his case.
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Don't know the member well enough to evaluate competently. Those who rarely have much of anything useful or interesting to contribute but spend most of their time insulting sources or insulting other members sooner or later give me opportunity to practice my scroll techniques. :)

The topic offered in the OP though was opportunity for an interesting discussion.
 
TheHammer said:
* It was you who . . . bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
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Sorry, pretty much all coprolite, but I am going to pick on this one in particular because I find that so silly.

Ike bowing to Charles De Gaulle:
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Nixon bowing to Emperor Showa:
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Nixon bowing to Chairman Mao:
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Ike bowing to the Pope:
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Reagan bows to his dog:

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Sorry, I see this as a complete non-issue. I myself am a proud American, and bow to no man. But I also recognize that cultures are different, and when I was in foreign countries where such was the culture, I did it to fit with the local cultural norm.
 
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