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SHERIFF'S PROBE FINDS OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE 'FAKE' Years of forensics [W:3,129]

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Fishking said:
To be fair, I could say the same for "the majority of scientists say AGW is real", which there is no names or comprehensive list.
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Actually, you can give you names and a comprehensive list. Here is a list of agencies that have come up with definitive statements about it.. and if you look at each
of their list of employees that are scientists, that will give you names and a list

Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Scientific Consensus

You can also look at the papers being published about it, and 97% confirm their conclusion for AWG.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scien...rveys_of_scientists_and_scientific_literature

A 2010 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States (PNAS) reviewed publication and citation data for 1,372 climate researchers and drew the following two conclusions:

(i) 97–98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field support the tenets of ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change) outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and (ii) the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC are substantially below that of the convinced researchers.[116]
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So, yes.. a definitive list can be made from the scientific literature that gets published.
 
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Cardinal said:
Seriously, why is WND in your news feed?
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It wasn't WND in my news feed. I was tagged by someone with a video from a normal local news outlet.

 
Re: Birther Redux

Matters not at this point.

Obama just acknowledged he won't be a politician in about 34 days.
 
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notquiteright said:
Au contraire mon frere... there have been REPEATED lists of scientists who back climate change... your Google is weak if you have never brought up thousands of refences to the various lists, meetings, seminars and study group reports, conferences, and peer reviewed papers by thousands of scientists.

They put their names on their reports... do the forensic 'experts' do the same???
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This is a list of all scientists?

Global Warming Petition Project
 
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Fishking said:
It wasn't WND in my news feed. I was tagged by someone with a video from a normal local news outlet.

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But you defended WND. Why would you do that if not because you respect it?
 
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RAMOSS said:
Actually, you can give you names and a comprehensive list. Here is a list of agencies that have come up with definitive statements about it.. and if you look at each
of their list of employees that are scientists, that will give you names and a list

Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Scientific Consensus

You can also look at the papers being published about it, and 97% confirm their conclusion for AWG.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scien...rveys_of_scientists_and_scientific_literature

So, yes.. a definitive list can be made from the scientific literature that gets published.
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That's not a list of all of them. Funny how different standards exists for different things.
 
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Cardinal said:
But you defended WND. Why would you do that if not because you respect it?
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Nope. Didn't defend WND. I'm saying it's a breaking news story and that is a fact.
 
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notquiteright said:
Truth- i don't think it means what you think it means...

For some truth appears to be in the dark recesses of their minds like beauty is in the eye of the beholder... :peace
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Yeah huh. No offense, but that post of yours might better have remained in one of those dark recesses ...maybe to sit there until in grew up into a, you know, mature thought that might be worth posting? Maybe?

Or, how about flesh it out for me, what is it you think I am thinking that, according to you, it doesn't mean?
 
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Fishking said:
Nope. Didn't defend WND. I'm saying it's a breaking news story and that is a fact.
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The OP linked to WND.
 
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Cardinal said:
...which was linked to WND.
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Which was also announced on a news outlet. This isn't confusing.
 
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Fishking said:
Which was also announced on a news outlet. This isn't confusing.
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Then person starting the thread can link to the news outlet. Yet he chose to link to WND. Since he's clearly a consumer of conspiracy theory outlets I'm just wondering why anybody would do that to themselves.
 
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WCH said:
Matters not at this point.

Obama just acknowledged he won't be a politician in about 34 days.
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Agreed. It's just something that came up and will be talked about. There's already a thread on it so it doesn't matter here.
 
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Fishking said:
Agreed. It's just something that came up and will be talked about. There's already a thread on it so it doesn't matter here.
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I'll definitely heck it out.:)
 
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Fishking said:
This is a list of all scientists?

Global Warming Petition Project
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30,000 Scientists Reject Anthropogenic Climate Change? : snopes.com

Not All Climatologists
More than 30,000 people may have signed a petition challenging the veracity of anthropogenic global warming, but you don’t have to be a climate scientist, or even a practicing scientist, to sign that document.
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Gaugingcatenate said:
Damn that is just lame, c'mon now.

Most of us can walk, chew gum, scratch our balls if we got em and even talk on our cell phones at the same time TD. I am not a birther, his mother was an American citizen for chissakes. But if he is lying about the certificate, which most forensics experts seem to agree that he was, hell, I want to know.

Then I want to know why. I am a curious person AND there must be some reason he is covering up the fact. That you don't give a **** is glaringly obvious. I am convinced you don't, was already convinced.
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NIMBY said:
Though these birthers still make up the original foundation of support for our mandateless PEOTUS .
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You have no proof of that.
 
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Fishking said:
That's not a list of all of them. Funny how different standards exists for different things.
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Well. ... you know what..how about if you randomly take , oh, 10 names from that list, and show 1) the field in which they are currently working, and 2) the papers they wrote on climate.

Show that the signers are actually scientists that are working in the field. Let' see you come up , out of that list, 10 ones that are actively working in the field, and have a peer reviewed article on global warming , published in a journal that is relevant to the study of climate.

If the list is as valid as you think it is, that should be EASY.
 
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Cardinal said:
The OP linked to WND.
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And? I just gave you a video for a regular news outlet. What's your point? You realize that there are different sources on this, right? That WND doesn't claim some kind of intellectual property rights on the story, right?
 
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Cardinal said:
Then person starting the thread can link to the news outlet. Yet he chose to link to WND. Since he's clearly a consumer of conspiracy theory outlets I'm just wondering why anybody would do that to themselves.
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*shrug* I dunno. The only time I get exposed to WND is in political forums and such. I mean, if you're going to get stuck on that I'm afraid any point you're trying to make is going to fall flat as we can pick from any number of sources. USA Today is covering it as well.
 
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RAMOSS said:
Well. ... you know what..how about if you randomly take , oh, 10 names from that list, and show 1) the field in which they are currently working, and 2) the papers they wrote on climate.

Show that the signers are actually scientists that are working in the field. Let' see you come up , out of that list, 10 ones that are actively working in the field, and have a peer reviewed article on global warming , published in a journal that is relevant to the study of climate.

If the list is as valid as you think it is, that should be EASY.
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Yeah...cuz that's a great idea if they want to get grant money. However, there have been plenty of examples of experts in the field that don't agree with the supposed consensus.

Usually comes with the person resigning.

Climate Professor Quits Biased Global Warming IPCC - Principia Scientific International
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. Yet more unhinged BS. No, no credible forensic expert agrees that he was.
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Links, sources, facts regarding credible experts? Anything at all besides your regular BS?

No, you will come back with your random bad adjective generator to call me who knows what, guess we will wait and see, eh? But, frankly, who cares? Its your banal schtick... oops, forgot an adjective, your worthless banal schtick. I quit keeping count that one thread of just how many substance-less posts, like this one, in a row. :roll:

If nothing else, you are persistent with your worthless banal schtick. :lamo
 
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Fishking said:
And that proves....?
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The Global warming deniers use misleading tactics , also known as 'lying'.
 
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Arpaio and his aides
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In 2012 Trump promised to send a 'team' to Hawaii to 'investigate' the birth certificate. Maybe this moron and his 'aides' are that team. Next they can go to the moon and prove we didn't land there.

You just can't make this stuff up.
 
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