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Feminism is reactive with latent misandry in both men and women

That sounds fine by me, but I wouldn't put it past Hillary Clinton to - oh wait, that feminist thinks Hillary Clinton is a disaster. I see.

This is going to be a horrible four years for everybody. :shock:

Although she's ridden coattails all her life, Clinton is no feminist. She's a Hillaryist.
 
https://youtu.be/Ekq3OLRz1ls

here's a video addressing sexual assault on campuses in response to another wrong person on the internet, since you think AEI videos are to be taken serious

Argumentum ad lapidem and shouting over people seems to be your side's specialty. You know, not only does it make you wrong, it's downright rude.
 
Although she's ridden coattails all her life, Clinton is no feminist. She's a Hillaryist.

That's true that she's ridden coattails. But if cruelty magnifies one beauty, then can we either conclude that adage is false, or that Hillary is not cruel?

I really have to wonder how many souls of men she had to broker to get to where she is today. I'm guessing somewhere between 1-50, but not more than 200, not counting Benghazi. Maybe that was Beelzebub's doing and she just sat by idly, I don't know the whole story.

But how Hillary doesn't represent feminism is beyond me. She (or a surrogate, or her campaign) has repeatedly played identity politics and promised to equalize the playing field when it comes to the "wage gap." I doubt that she is a true narcissist, because she seems genuinely interested in improving the way of American life, but at what cost to men? Is she hiding latent misandry from us, even if she's not a feminist? Then the question becomes, can a person be a feminist if they don't harbor feelings of resentment toward men?
 
If I had to pick between categorizing Feminism as a cruel joke, or indiscriminate sexism, I think I'd go with cruel joke. How is feminism not sexist only in womyn's favor?
Im not even sure if its sctually going to end up being in their favor once the uncle tims and white Knights turn on them.

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Im not even sure if its sctually going to end up being in their favor once the uncle tims and white Knights turn on them.

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Whites knights and male feminists want something in return and always have. For example, male feminists were rather important in getting feminists into the idea of free love under the idea of sexual freedom. Their support for the idea was a complete scam of course, but most feminists never figured that out.
 
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I saw an atrractive girl at a bar last night and i walked over and struck up a conversation. She offered to buy me a beer to which i had a full one already. I suggeseted we have shots. I buy hers and she buys mine. No mysogyny or misandry at play. Totaly equal and comfortable for both.

I flag thebartender over and explain we are buying eachother shots. Bartender started verbaly attacking us wsnting to know why she was buying me a shot instead of me buying them both. I told her welcome to equality. She than argued with me and i cancelled the drinks alltogether and appologized to the girl i was flirting with who was openly embarassed by bartender.

If that was not misandry i dont know what is

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I saw an atrractive girl at a bar last night and i walked over and struck up a conversation. She offered to buy me a beer to which i had a full one already. I suggeseted we have shots. I buy hers and she buys mine. No mysogyny or misandry at play. Totaly equal and comfortable for both.

I flag thebartender over and explain we are buying eachother shots. Bartender started verbaly attacking us wsnting to know why she was buying me a shot instead of me buying them both. I told her welcome to equality. She than argued with me and i cancelled the drinks alltogether and appologized to the girl i was flirting with who was openly embarassed by bartender.

If that was not misandry i dont know what is

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It's not just the vaunted chauvinism you and I see online - this is real and happens in everyday occurrences. My guess is that some places are more intolerant of men than others, and it seems like women in general want men to do things for them. The transparent chauvinism we see in real life when men are attacked for their biological identity is real and dangerous to the people.

I have to wonder if this gets worse as we grow older, and I tend to think that it doesn't. I think men and women eventually grow out of their resentment for people who are belong to a group which has historically held more power than a group to which they belong. It just doesn't pay to constantly be fighting battles about one's identity, but rather it can be incredibly physiologically and psychologically distressing for all parties involved.

One exception, of course, would be radical Islam. I think Jihad really is about a spiritual identity, at its core.
 
But how Hillary doesn't represent feminism is beyond me.

Clinton pays lip service when it suits her to women and also children. All hat, no cattle.

Then the question becomes, can a person be a feminist if they don't harbor feelings of resentment toward men?

How can a woman not be a feminist if she respects herself and other women?

I was a daddy's girl, and I love men. No resentment at all...but that doesn't mean that I don't want and deserve equal opportunity and equal pay for equal work.
 
Most cases of sexual harassment are guys approaching women like a doofus? In what world

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I'll side with you on this one. It's not them being a doofus but them not respecting the woman they are harassing.
 
Clinton pays lip service when it suits her to women and also children. All hat, no cattle.



How can a woman not be a feminist if she respects herself and other women?

I was a daddy's girl, and I love men. No resentment at all...but that doesn't mean that I don't want and deserve equal opportunity and equal pay for equal work.

But she went to China to say that women's rights are human rights? That sounds like a feminist agenda to me.

Even the ever nebulous Donald Trump has said that women deserve equal pay for equal work.
 
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I saw an atrractive girl at a bar last night and i walked over and struck up a conversation. She offered to buy me a beer to which i had a full one already. I suggeseted we have shots. I buy hers and she buys mine. No mysogyny or misandry at play. Totaly equal and comfortable for both.

I flag thebartender over and explain we are buying eachother shots. Bartender started verbaly attacking us wsnting to know why she was buying me a shot instead of me buying them both. I told her welcome to equality. She than argued with me and i cancelled the drinks alltogether and appologized to the girl i was flirting with who was openly embarassed by bartender.

If that was not misandry i dont know what is

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That's traditionalism, not some kind of hate. She expected the man to treat the woman because that is what she believes the man should do.
 
That's traditionalism, not some kind of hate. She expected the man to treat the woman because that is what she believes the man should do.
True but i did not comply and thats when she became hateful. Funny part is that it was not even any of the bartenders buisiness to begin with

In the end i took the girl to the bar nextdoor so she lost 2 customers

Oh and she had two girlfreinds with her that joined us about an hour later, so she losr 4 customers total

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True but i did not comply and thats when she became hateful. Funny part is that it was not even any of the bartenders buisiness to begin with

In the end i took the girl to the bar nextdoor so she lost 2 customers

Oh and she had two girlfreinds with her that joined us about an hour later, so she losr 4 customers total

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All I can tell from your story is that she asked a question that doesn't indicate any sort of hate, but just disagreement with how you were doing things. Now saying that, you're right that it wasn't her business and she shouldn't have said anything.

Anyway, if you ask me I find equality thing in dating unnecessary and I would prefer to just pay for it myself, but then again, I'm kind of old school with that kind of stuff.
 
All I can tell from your story is that she asked a question that doesn't indicate any sort of hate, but just disagreement with how you were doing things. Now saying that, you're right that it wasn't her business and she shouldn't have said anything.

Anyway, if you ask me I find equality thing in dating unnecessary and I would prefer to just pay for it myself, but then again, I'm kind of old school with that kind of stuff.
I lile buying each others drinks sometimes. It can be a nice icebreaker.

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I lile buying each others drinks sometimes. It can be a nice icebreaker.

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Fair enough. Btw, the woman was likely someone that prefers the old way of doing things and recently ran into a man that didn't like that arrangement. I would imagine she was taking out a bit of frustration on you because it.
 
It's not just the vaunted chauvinism you and I see online - this is real and happens in everyday occurrences. My guess is that some places are more intolerant of men than others, and it seems like women in general want men to do things for them. The transparent chauvinism we see in real life when men are attacked for their biological identity is real and dangerous to the people.

I have to wonder if this gets worse as we grow older, and I tend to think that it doesn't. I think men and women eventually grow out of their resentment for people who are belong to a group which has historically held more power than a group to which they belong. It just doesn't pay to constantly be fighting battles about one's identity, but rather it can be incredibly physiologically and psychologically distressing for all parties involved.

One exception, of course, would be radical Islam. I think Jihad really is about a spiritual identity, at its core.
I run into this stuff all the time sometimes its very blstant and other times its more subtle but it does prrminate our society. Negotiating through it isban art form.

I could probably start a whole thread on it lol

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I run into this stuff all the time sometimes its very blstant and other times its more subtle but it does prrminate our society. Negotiating through it isban art form.

I could probably start a whole thread on it lol

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I don't mean to dwell on hate, but I think it should be diagnosed and treated when feminism as a respectable form of promoting woman's rights is carrying female chauvinism with it undetected.

Kind of like how one wants to go see one's doctor about a lump on a breast while it's still benign.
 
I don't mean to dwell on hate, but I think it should be diagnosed and treated when feminism as a respectable form of promoting woman's rights is carrying female chauvinism with it undetected.

Kind of like how one wants to go see one's doctor about a lump on a breast while it's still benign.
I dont dwell on the hate but i do avoid those who dwell in the best i can if they react with hostility when its points out to them.

For instance the other night i invited the lady to join me for a drink across the street. Next time that baretenders serves me i ecpext she will be more polite and respectful toward me.

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Women commonly consider themselves part of a minority group. Statistically, females consist of approximately half of the population, while they have been historically underrepresented in various fields, offices and vocations. And that is true - women consist of a minority of disconnected workers and students. The number of women who are unemployed and not in school has steadily decreased since the 1960's. Some would say that the first wave feminists succeeded in their dream of realizing equality of the sexes and/or, did the very best for women that anyone could have done under those circumstances, regardless of whether or not they were actively discriminated against by men. Perhaps the best measure of improvement is not by how much money one takes, or how powerful one is, but by whether or not one is more educable and more employable.

Likewise, tolerance of men is perhaps the best measure of how equal a feminist society is. For example, the measure of success is not how much money that women make for themselves, but how much they are willing to calculate as an hourly wage for breakfast, lunch dinner, and raw materials when calculating alimoney. There may be no better arena for this measure than sexual intercourse. But do feminists tolerate male sexuality? Yes, to an extent. When sperm enters a woman's vagina, on the other hand, not all feminists can resist throwing men under the bus. This is the line that is drawn in the sand. So, in other words, "my body, my choice," is not about equality at all. In fact, it's not just about bodies, either. We act with our bodies in the world. We make sounds with our mouths so we may socialize. And while it might seem like a crazy conspiracy that men should enjoy equal protection under the law, men also make choices with their bodies. One of those choices is sexual intercourse, of which the goal for many men is orgasm, which is commonly achieved via ejaculation.

How does this all relate to feminism? Well, feminism is no longer about equality of the sexes. In theory, we have passed that point. But unless women are equal to men in all things except greediness, then they will continue to want more, and more. Therefore, feminists are interested in promoting women's rights, advocating for women's issues in various academic and business arenas, and improving conditions for women at the expense of men.

It doesn't seem so bad, does it? But wait, there's more. If we are to be a competitive society, then it makes sense that women should be able to stab just as many people in the back as men do, and minimize the ratio of backstabbing to pie in the sky. Greed is just a part of a capitalist society, who is to tell women that they shouldn't be greedy? Well, they are, but that's not the point. The point is that some of these women harbor feelings of resentment against men which are exhibited in latent female chauvinism.

And if you thought that was scary, I'm going to dress up as a feminist for Halloween.
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Like this guy. Chicks dig Ryan Gosling. #SheKnows

A long time ago the Feminist Movement stopped being about "Equality" and started being about "Power and Control" (the same thing they were fighting against).

Much damage to equality was done and a whole bunch more damage to individual rights and freedoms for all. When the basic principles of Justice are violated, it is a long slide down the slippery slope of unintended consequences.
 
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