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Was the "New World Order" an Illuminati project?

The ACTUAL Illuminati disbanded in 1786, due to Karl Theordor of Bravaria banning all secret societies. They are no longer around anymore.

What remains of the "Illuminati" today, is the ficticious conspiracy theorist version of the Illuminati.

I'm sure there remains another version of the Illuminati today just under different names. Illuminati would have been a former name.
 
No, because the Illuminati isn't ****ing real.

That is all that needs to be said.

The Illuminati is most certainly real, only problem is they are misrepresented as being "nefarious" or "evil".
They are not the bad guys. The bad guys are most governments, whom the Illuminati are/were opponents of (at the time governments/monarchs/rulers were mainly instrumental appendages of the Christian church and were all based around suppression and domination of the people therein).
 
The Illuminati is most certainly real, only problem is they are misrepresented as being "nefarious" or "evil".
They are not the bad guys. The bad guys are most governments, whom the Illuminati are/were opponents of (at the time governments/monarchs/rulers were mainly instrumental appendages of the Christian church and were all based around suppression and domination of the people therein).

I know about the actual Illuminati, and I know they held many views that I'd agree with.

I'm just referring to the fictitious version of the Illuminati.
 
What remains of the "Illuminati" today, is the ficticious conspiracy theorist version of the Illuminati.

I'm not exactly sure that is correct, either. Again, I think modern-day groups exist, but much in the capacity that the Freemasons do:
- no positions of power.
- no real influence.
Just groups around the world that regularly indulge in whatever anti-clerical activities they may, just for the sake of nostalgia and not for anything nefarious like what traditional mainstream conspiracy-theorists assert.
 
I would place the CIA at the top of that pyramid. It used to be prohibited to operate domestically (inside the USA)but then that changed and in the Church Ccmmittee Senate investigation in 1977 it was revealed that the CIA had over 400 agents in newsrooms in the USA. So the CIA can operate inside the USA. Iran Contra, a CIA treason type deal, with drugs, Panama banks, arms deals, attempted regime change in Nicaragua and sitting Vice Presidents and Govenors. The CIA operates the drone program. The CIA has its' own military forces. The CIA hires hundreds of thousands(?) of MICs for nefarious operations. The CIA Media program is larger that ever. I think William Colby, ex CIA head, had stated that a successful PR program was when "everthing the people believed to be true was a lie (paraphased)." The CIA has thousands of employees in State Department billets to insert them into foreign locations covertly. The CIA Director, Clapper, lies to Congress with impunity. The CIA had originally been joined at the hip with USA Corporations, especially banks, operating Internationally and adjusting (overthrow, assasination) governments to help them operate their "banana republics." That would be the largest Corporations and the natural allies in a New World Order Corporate economic alignment, which does seem to be the current agenda.

hillary must be the head of CIA
 
They seem to be based somewhere in Germany most likely Bavaria, their founding place. It has changed hands a few times, it was in London once.

Because those are khazar jews that founded this org
 
I have no clue to be honest. The Bavarians helped Britain conquer the world though.

They are remarkable, those Bavarians in short buckskin pants.
 
They are remarkable, those Bavarians in short buckskin pants.

Okay, since you asked, it looks like the headquarters went back to Bavaria (probably Munich) in the 1990's when East and West Germany were reunited and the USSR was no more. These guys still exert their influence through NATO and the EU.
 
I would even be bold as to say that the Illuminati are interested in uniting the world and preventing world war III from breaking out.

Of course power elites don't like war (no one should), but it's not for benevolent reasons. Wars have a tendency to overturn power structures, which could come back to bite them. It's much better to have a generally stable environment so they consolidate and keep their power.

That aside, people, as in this thread, get caught up too much over names and misconstrued ideas. Is there an Illuminati? No. Are there huge multi-national bank organizations, companies, and elite politicians that operate behind the scenes to influence/instigate many things around the world? I don't think anyone could deny that. I think it's interesting how the very same people can complain about the undue influence money has on elections, and call for campaign finance reform, somehow can't imagine there being influence on a much larger scale by bigger organizations.

Naw, that's not possible. Now I'm going to complain about undue influence of the Koch brothers.
 
hillary must be the head of CIA

Hillary most certainly has been joined at the hip with the CIA since Arkansas Financial Development Corpora;tion laundered the money for the Iran Contra arms for cocaine that was then retailed in California. Documented by Congressional testimony. The San Jose Mercury News and Gary Webb. Mena, Arkansas, training ground for Contras, transhipment of gune form the likes of Iver Johnson (famous parking meter company), and the movement of cocaine and arms by Eugene Hasenfus, Barry Seal, Terry Reed, and others. It was a CIA operation connected to GWHBush and Slick Willie Clintoon, and Hillary at AFDC. Then the CIA is at Benghazi. Connect the dots.
 
Hillary most certainly has been joined at the hip with the CIA since Arkansas Financial Development Corpora;tion laundered the money for the Iran Contra arms for cocaine that was then retailed in California. Documented by Congressional testimony. The San Jose Mercury News and Gary Webb. Mena, Arkansas, training ground for Contras, transhipment of gune form the likes of Iver Johnson (famous parking meter company), and the movement of cocaine and arms by Eugene Hasenfus, Barry Seal, Terry Reed, and others. It was a CIA operation connected to GWHBush and Slick Willie Clintoon, and Hillary at AFDC. Then the CIA is at Benghazi. Connect the dots.

I was just joking but she has such a potential really
 
I'm pretty sure the CIA does whatever it wants. They don't care who's 'in charge'.
 
If you ever want 100% positive proof that someone is a conspiracy theory loon, the phrase "That's what they want you to believe" is it.

EVERYONE I FOUND A MEMBER OF THE ILLUMINATI!!!! lol jk
 
I would place the CIA at the top of that pyramid. It used to be prohibited to operate domestically (inside the USA)but then that changed and in the Church Ccmmittee Senate investigation in 1977 it was revealed that the CIA had over 400 agents in newsrooms in the USA. So the CIA can operate inside the USA. Iran Contra, a CIA treason type deal, with drugs, Panama banks, arms deals, attempted regime change in Nicaragua and sitting Vice Presidents and Govenors. The CIA operates the drone program. The CIA has its' own military forces. The CIA hires hundreds of thousands(?) of MICs for nefarious operations. The CIA Media program is larger that ever. I think William Colby, ex CIA head, had stated that a successful PR program was when "everthing the people believed to be true was a lie (paraphased)." The CIA has thousands of employees in State Department billets to insert them into foreign locations covertly. The CIA Director, Clapper, lies to Congress with impunity. The CIA had originally been joined at the hip with USA Corporations, especially banks, operating Internationally and adjusting (overthrow, assasination) governments to help them operate their "banana republics." That would be the largest Corporations and the natural allies in a New World Order Corporate economic alignment, which does seem to be the current agenda.

I think it was William Casey, and more like "everything the American people believe is false".

Yes, the program has succeeded beyond their wildest hopes.
 
I see that Round Table is at the center of the Think Tanks.

That's good because Round Table still makes a solid pizza and think tanking is hard work that deserves the reward of a solid pizza lunch break.
 
Um, I believe the proper term is "Sheeple of Earth."

You're welcome. ;)

The lizard men call humans sheeple because they wear human hides as clothes (thats how they walk among us unseen) and also as food.
So when you hear someone talking about sheeple 9X out of 10 they are actually a Lizard man

Yes I`m looking at you Opopanax
 
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