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cellphone, wifi radiotion etc are extremely dangerous.

Pin dÁr said:
I a,m talling about the radiation. Very very dangerous indeed.
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I spent my entire adult life being radiated on by 100,000 watt X-band RADARS, 150 watt High power radios, and the like, and I turnedbALKJHCL..ok..njiojE :stars:

a 1/4 watt cellphone does not keep me awake at night.
 
Pin dÁr said:
I agree with you on that, alas. However I spend a lot of time in the woods, and I am also living in a very small town.

So, yes there is some, I whish it wasn't.

wifi even kills babies!
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I had no idea...:doh
 
i blame teh joos
 
IF THIS WERE ALL TRUE.....

Then how much radiation do you think the crew of an aircraft carrier are exposed to, day in and day out, during a six month deployment.

Every aircraft has a radar and a radio, and there are about 100 of them, then how about the antenna forest in the superstructure.

Don't you think these crewmen were exposed to quite a lot of radiation during their deployments?

And believe me, they are all more powerful than a 1/4 watt cell phone.

Why is not the entire crew dead within a week?
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
IF THIS WERE ALL TRUE.....

Then how much radiation do you think the crew of an aircraft carrier are exposed to, day in and day out, during a six month deployment.

Every aircraft has a radar and a radio, and there are about 100 of them, then how about the antenna forest in the superstructure.

Don't you think these crewmen were exposed to quite a lot of radiation during their deployments?

And believe me, they are all more powerful than a 1/4 watt cell phone.

Why is not the entire crew dead within a week?
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Now ,now,now,everyone here knows that pin'd air is immune to facts.
Or logic.
 
Just another electronics point.

Ever been on a sailboat? They sure are fun.

It is common practice to load the backstay guy line and use it as a Single Sideband Antenna (SSB) that transmits 150 watts about chest high starting aft and going up to the top of the mast.

How come millions of people enjoy their sailboat trips, and are not dead at sea the first time the SSB transmitter is keyed up, and someone talks over it.

You know, of course, no power is transmitted on an SSB system until you start talking. Then you get hit with up to 150 watts right in your face. Still a far cry from the 1/4 watt cell phone.

Just a thought.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Just another electronics point.

Ever been on a sailboat? They sure are fun.

It is common practice to load the backstay guy line and use it as a Single Sideband Antenna (SSB) that transmits 150 watts about chest high starting aft and going up to the top of the mast.

How come millions of people enjoy their sailboat trips, and are not dead at sea the first time the SSB transmitter is keyed up, and someone talks over it.

You know, of course, no power is transmitted on an SSB system until you start talking. Then you get hit with up to 150 watts right in your face. Still a far cry from the 1/4 watt cell phone.

Just a thought.
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As far as I know it is not , or not only, about the power (watts), but more important is the frequency.
Another thing is , is that people think that less power is less damage. This is very simply not the case.
The why of that is mentioned in the interviews.

Furthermore, it isn't a point that you don't suffer from it. That doesn't mean a thing by itself.
It's like the '' cigar' argument. "see my father smoked a lot and became very old".

Some will suffer a lot, some will not suffer, or suffer later, some will suffer less, etc. It's like the Bell Curve:

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That's why i wrote if you had watched the interviews.
 
Pin dÁr said:
As far as I know it is not , or not only, about the power (watts), but more important is the frequency.
Another thing is , is that people think that less power is less damage. This is very simply not the case.
The why of that is mentioned in the interviews.

Furthermore, it isn't a point that you don't suffer from it. That doesn't mean a thing by itself.
It's like the '' cigar' argument. "see my father smoked a lot and became very old".

Some will suffer a lot, some will not suffer, or suffer later, some will suffer less, etc. It's like the Bell Curve:

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That's why i wrote if you had watched the interviews.
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I do not have the time or inclination to watch several pages of interviews.

It would be better if you post the full interview, like you did, but ALSO post a summary of your opinion in the same box.

Chances are most people here will read your summary, then watch the interview if they are interested.

I am passionate about wildlife preservation, but if I posted 10 or 15 videos to make my point, no one would watch all of them. It bores people, and the main point gets lost in all the boring videos.

You have to understand, not everyone is passionate about a subject as much as another person....and that means they will NOT watch a series of boring videos about it.
 
Pin dÁr said:
As far as I know it is not , or not only, about the power (watts), but more important is the frequency.
Another thing is , is that people think that less power is less damage. This is very simply not the case.
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LOL i explained this to you in exquisite detail in #48. The frequency only becomes a problem if the electromagnetic waves are IONIZING which means a huge quantity of energy per particle. Ionization is the tearing off of well-bonded electrons. Nature becomes discrete at that level, so the frequency needs to be high.

And less power is obviously less damage. Don't be ridiculous.
 
Absentglare said:
LOL i explained this to you in exquisite detail in #48. The frequency only becomes a problem if the electromagnetic waves are IONIZING which means a huge quantity of energy per particle. Ionization is the tearing off of well-bonded electrons. Nature becomes discrete at that level, so the frequency needs to be high.

And less power is obviously less damage. Don't be ridiculous.
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You might as well ask water not to be wet.
 
Absentglare said:
And less power is obviously less damage. Don't be ridiculous.
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So, you haven't watched the video's? It is not true what you are writing here and has to do with the human body
Please watc videos of the intervieuws.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I do not have the time or inclination to watch several pages of interviews.

It would be better if you post the full interview, like you did, but ALSO post a summary of your opinion in the same box.

Chances are most people here will read your summary, then watch the interview if they are interested.

I am passionate about wildlife preservation, but if I posted 10 or 15 videos to make my point, no one would watch all of them. It bores people, and the main point gets lost in all the boring videos.

You have to understand, not everyone is passionate about a subject as much as another person....and that means they will NOT watch a series of boring videos about it.
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one, the first, will be enough,
 
Pin dÁr said:
So, you haven't watched the video's? It is not true what you are writing here and has to do with the human body
Please watc videos of the intervieuws.
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I don't consider any person on youtube to be a reputable source.

Instead, i have considerable education specifically on electromagnetic fields and waves. I know this stuff quite well. If your case had merit, you would be able to find evidence for it in a reputable source.
 
Pin dÁr said:
If one looks at the experiments done, the ones that say it is safe are the ones funded by the companies that explot these frquencies and technology.

The independant ones show it is much more dangerous then we think.
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What are you doing? Right now? At this very moment?
 
Absentglare said:
I don't consider any person on youtube to be a reputable source.

Instead, i have considerable education specifically on electromagnetic fields and waves. I know this stuff quite well. If your case had merit, you would be able to find evidence for it in a reputable source.
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Absentglare...I first got interested in this stuff when in the Navy hunting submarines with MAD gear, but then once we stopped off at Guadalcanal on some hush hush thingy, and I actually saw a handheld compass " dance ". It was awe inspiring, and I have been fascinated with magnetics of the earth ever since. My research later showed the Japanese and us both had to use natives to get around because of all the iron deposits there. I am sure back in 1942 it was much much worse.

On the America, I "fixed" a computer monitor by rotating it 90 degrees. It turns out there was a huge motor on the other side of the bulkhead that created a gargantuan magnetic field whose lines of flux cut through the monitor's color display. The display looked like swirling colors of ink all swirling around the display while the text was stable. Once I knew there was a huge motor on the other side, all I had to do was rotate the display 90 degrees and the lines of flux did not cut like they did before and the display was normal. Talk about really weird. But such is the world of magnetic fields.

E and H as it were.
 
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Absentglare said:
I don't consider any person on youtube to be a reputable source.

Instead, i have considerable education specifically on electromagnetic fields and waves. I know this stuff quite well. If your case had merit, you would be able to find evidence for it in a reputable source.
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but you can't proof any of it here. Why is the video not reputable?
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Absentglare...I first got interested in this stuff when in the Navy hunting submarines with MAD gear, but then once we stopped off at Guadalcanal on some hush hush thingy, and I actually saw a handheld compass " dance ". It was awe inspiring, and I have been fascinated with magnetics of the earth ever since. My research later showed the Japanese and us both had to use natives to get around because of all the iron deposits there. I am sure back in 1942 it was much much worse.

On the America, I "fixed" a computer monitor by rotating it 90 degrees. It turns out there was a huge motor on the other side of the bulkhead that created a gargantuan magnetic field whose lines of flux cut through the monitor's color display. The display looked like swirling colors of ink all swirling around the display while the text was stable. Once I knew there was a huge motor on the other side, all I had to do was rotate the display 90 degrees and the lines of flux did not cut like they did before and the display was normal. Talk about really weird. But such is the world of magnetic fields.

E and H as it were.
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SO? How is this relevant?
 
Absentglare said:
LOL i explained this to you in exquisite detail in #48. The frequency only becomes a problem if the electromagnetic waves are IONIZING which means a huge quantity of energy per particle. Ionization is the tearing off of well-bonded electrons. Nature becomes discrete at that level, so the frequency needs to be high.

And less power is obviously less damage. Don't be ridiculous.
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you are saying that the damage can only be done if the radiaton or EM wave is ionizing. Is that correct that you think that?
 
and Electromagnetic waves surpresses melatonine, which can cause cancer, among other things.
(the surpression that is)
 
And there is more..

A very recent discovery shows that microwave radiation changes the permeability ofthe blood brain barrier.
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Professor Salford at Lund University in Sweden has shown that suchpulsing as from mobile phones can alter the permeability of the blood brain barrier(Appendix 4, Reference 3). I will argue as TETRA pulses, which is arguably morepowerful than the average mobile phone, this situation could be worse with TETRA.


SmartMetersMurder
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