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Television is here to LIE to us

why do this corrupt govt owned by the corrupt media and entertainment industry.. why do they want muslims? and the muslims are the democrats very worst nightmare slamming women and gays..... but the democrats who scream they help women are trying to run in muslims?? why because the more people the more the media can brainwash and fool to get more rich... same thing with running in illegals..... the IQ expert shows that groups ig in in the 80's so that group would be more easy to fool by the crooks

its the MEDIA folks as america's number 1 enemy !! trying to drug out the low IQ population
 
SailaWay said:
why do this corrupt govt owned by the corrupt media and entertainment industry.. why do they want muslims? and the muslims are the democrats very worst nightmare slamming women and gays..... but the democrats who scream they help women are trying to run in muslims?? why because the more people the more the media can brainwash and fool to get more rich... same thing with running in illegals..... the IQ expert shows that groups ig in in the 80's so that group would be more easy to fool by the crooks

its the MEDIA folks as america's number 1 enemy !! trying to drug out the low IQ population
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And with your poor grammar and mechanics, we are to not lump you in with the low IQ population .... Why?
 
maquiscat said:
And with your poor grammar and mechanics, we are to not lump you in with the low IQ population .... Why?
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question.. is enstein more wise than parrots?? why was einstein so down on education and grammar rememberers who he horse laughs out of the building for thinking they are wise?

this is a wisodm test in itself this difference and understanding the value
 
SailaWay said:
question.. is enstein more wise than parrots?? why was einstein so down on education and grammar rememberers who he horse laughs out of the building for thinking they are wise?

this is a wisodm test in itself this difference and understanding the value
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Einstein and many others of high IQ, and even most of moderate IQ, can write and speak, and clearly make a point in comprehendable English. Even most of the people here, whom have positions I disagree with, can present their arguments, yes with the occasional typo, and will agree I can present mine in plain and proper English, with proper mechanics. No none of us are perfect, but at least we can hit the 90% mark.
 
maquiscat said:
Einstein and many others of high IQ, and even most of moderate IQ, can write and speak, and clearly make a point in comprehendable English. Even most of the people here, whom have positions I disagree with, can present their arguments, yes with the occasional typo, and will agree I can present mine in plain and proper English, with proper mechanics. No none of us are perfect, but at least we can hit the 90% mark.
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you are fooling yourself if you don't understand what logic does and what memory copying does


einstein was down on knowledge in many of his quotes... he saw them as wannabes ...like he says knowledge can get you from point a to point b but immagination can get you everywhere.. he also says we read too many books... your low logic may not can understand WHY he says we read too many books and einstein was at first a poor student because he saw more valuable things to learn than copying grammar
 
Thoreau72 said:
My only point is your statement is too broad.
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That's ok, We differ on that point. I really really think yours is too small.


E.g. I don't trust ANY documentary on tv, because I see it all used for propaganda.

Even worse, the more it looks like it is no propaganda at all, it is used all the more for propaganda


But let's respect each other differences in this area. It's ok with me, that we differ on this.

(This could be discusses as a whole topic all by itself, you studied drama. I am a film freak and have worked in cinemas and
had enough time then to analyse the movies, I am not saying I am an expert on that, but I have seen enough to draw some conclusions.)


But to me the whole point here is that you have not seen how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Even the children programs (entertainment) are filled with subliminal messages and propaganda.


E.g. Walt Disney who was, if I recall correctly, a high level freemason and a pedophile.
Once it is pointed out you can see many many sexual subliminals in programs for children.

and 'programs' is a perfect name, because it is 'programming' the children.

Furthermore a lot of NLP , and ericksonian hypnosis is used on tv for this programming and it is
way more anvanced most people realise.

And another important point is about what is left out of the programs.

That is mostly, telling a lot.
 
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SailaWay said:
question.. is enstein more wise than parrots?? why was einstein so down on education and grammar rememberers who he horse laughs out of the building for thinking they are wise?

this is a wisodm test in itself this difference and understanding the value
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einstein was an idiot! Look up Tesla, who laughed Einstein out of the room!
 
Pin dÁr said:
That's ok, We differ on that point. I really really think yours is too small.


E.g. I don't trust ANY documentary on tv, because I see it all used for propaganda.

Even worse, the more it looks like it is no propaganda at all, it is used all the more for propaganda


But let's respect each other differences in this area. It's ok with me, that we differ on this.

(This could be discusses as a whole topic all by itself, you studied drama. I am a film freak and have worked in cinemas and
had enough time then to analyse the movies, I am not saying I am an expert on that, but I have seen enough to draw some conclusions.)


But to me the whole point here is that you have not seen how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Even the children programs (entertainment) are filled with subliminal messages and propaganda.


E.g. Walt Disney who was, if I recall correctly, a high level freemason and a pedophile.
Once it is pointed out you can see many many sexual subliminals in programs for children.

and 'programs' is a perfect name, because it is 'programming' the children.

Furthermore a lot of NLP , and ericksonian hypnosis is used on tv for this programming and it is
way more anvanced most people realise.

And another important point is about what is left out of the programs.

That is mostly, telling a lot.
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I completely agree that children are certainly indoctrinated in many ways, but I feel I'm just stating the obvious about that. One of the main goals of school is teaching the children to submit to authority. Ditto religion.

I'll go back to my previous example, Netflix and its documentary about Steven Avery. In that case the documentary served a good and valid purpose--shining a very public light on the travesty and injustice delivered by Manitowoc County authorities. Shining the light was all they could do, and now a federal judge has ordered that one of the men be released.

If the documentary was propaganda, it was propaganda that delivered justice and good. Is "propaganda" the right word to describe that?
 
Thoreau72 said:
I completely agree that children are certainly indoctrinated in many ways, but I feel I'm just stating the obvious about that. One of the main goals of school is teaching the children to submit to authority. Ditto religion.

I'll go back to my previous example, Netflix and its documentary about Steven Avery. In that case the documentary served a good and valid purpose--shining a very public light on the travesty and injustice delivered by Manitowoc County authorities. Shining the light was all they could do, and now a federal judge has ordered that one of the men be released.

If the documentary was propaganda, it was propaganda that delivered justice and good. Is "propaganda" the right word to describe that?
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Thoreau72, In all fairness, I dom't know about "Steven Avery", so it is difficult to comment on that for me now.
However, the sheer fact that it was shown on netflix is a red flag for me, because I very simply don't trust netflix.
What might be possible is that Netflix has put in some 'truths', Just like the intelligence agencies do.
But to know for sure I have to investigate this first.

Bottomline, I still don't trust netflix one bit.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Thoreau72, In all fairness, I dom't know about "Steven Avery", so it is difficult to comment on that for me now.
However, the sheer fact that it was shown on netflix is a red flag for me, because I very simply don't trust netflix.
What might be possible is that Netflix has put in some 'truths', Just like the intelligence agencies do.
But to know for sure I have to investigate this first.

Bottomline, I still don't trust netflix one bit.
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Yes, in order to offer an intelligent response, you must familiarize yourself with the Avery case, and that takes time. Watch it with an open mind, and make up your own mind.

Guns and televisions are both inanimate objects, neither good nor evil. How those objects are used by humans is what is important.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Yes, in order to offer an intelligent response, you must familiarize yourself with the Avery case, and that takes time. Watch it with an open mind, and make up your own mind.
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Ok, I will but be patient, I am very busy.

Guns and televisions are both inanimate objects, neither good nor evil. How those objects are used by humans is what is important.
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well, yes and no. I really recommend the book I mentioned earlier. I now think guns are safer then tv in a way.
 
Pin dÁr said:
well, yes and no. I really recommend the book I mentioned earlier. I now think guns are safer then tv in a way.
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There is no yes or no here. Unless you want to claim TV's as sentient creatures, capable of independent thought. A TV simply cannot lie, nor tell the truth. It can be used for these purposes by sentient creatures, there is no argument there. To lie, the ability to choose, and think, must be present.
 
maquiscat said:
There is no yes or no here. Unless you want to claim TV's as sentient creatures, capable of independent thought. A TV simply cannot lie, nor tell the truth. It can be used for these purposes by sentient creatures, there is no argument there. To lie, the ability to choose, and think, must be present.
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Please read the book "Four arguments against television' to understand where I am coming from.
 
Pin dÁr said:
Please read the book "Four arguments against television' to understand where I am coming from.
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How about you just briefly summarize where you are coming from so none of us have to go out and buy and then read some :censored book?

Or is being able to state what you actually mean with any degree of specificity beyond your ability?
 
its the media and entertainment industry as the greatest harm..... this filters down to all the other harms like education... the media reports education help or harm based on how it affects their money agenda and in time the nation falls
 
Pin dÁr said:
Please read the book "Four arguments against television' to understand where I am coming from.
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There is nothing that it can possibility say that will change that fact. If you want to make the argument that nothing but lies are being broadcast over the TV, then you have an actual argument rooted in reality. That argues to who is currently using the tool. But any claim that the tool only has that one purpose is simply and wholly false. At some other point, it could be turned around and used only for truth and anything false, even fictional entertainment, might not be shown. If you want to talk about the people currently behind something then do so. Otherwise your whole premise is false.
 
maquiscat said:
There is nothing that it can possibility say that will change that fact. If you want to make the argument that nothing but lies are being broadcast over the TV, then you have an actual argument rooted in reality. That argues to who is currently using the tool. But any claim that the tool only has that one purpose is simply and wholly false. At some other point, it could be turned around and used only for truth and anything false, even fictional entertainment, might not be shown. If you want to talk about the people currently behind something then do so. Otherwise your whole premise is false.
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It is rather difficult to explain here, hence I refer to the book that shows that is , all by itself, a very dangerous technology.
 
Pin dÁr said:
It is rather difficult to explain here, hence I refer to the book that shows that is , all by itself, a very dangerous technology.
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yes the media and entertainment industry that pushes liberalism uses tv and the internet to drug out the unwise... so yes it is very dangerous to THE UNWISE.... and like FREEDOM and Voting by the unwise is very dangerous for all
 
TV and the internet are a gold mine to enrich and sell products or to drug out a population if the population is UNWISE

america is losing productivity fast from being drugged out.. wasting time and not being productive

china stops their unwise from using the internet to waste time and lose productivity and their GDP scores are 4 times higher
 
SailaWay said:
TV and the internet are a gold mine to enrich and sell products or to drug out a population if the population is UNWISE

america is losing productivity fast from being drugged out.. wasting time and not being productive

china stops their unwise from using the internet to waste time and lose productivity and their GDP scores are 4 times higher
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ah well, the plam is that China willl be a superstate and the USA a third world country.

Sp, they are right on track!
 
SailaWay said:
yes the media and entertainment industry that pushes liberalism uses tv and the internet to drug out the unwise... so yes it is very dangerous to THE UNWISE.... and like FREEDOM and Voting by the unwise is very dangerous for all
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as I wrote, it is more complicated then that.

Besides, who determines who the 'wise' and the 'unwise' are?
 
Pin dÁr said:
as I wrote, it is more complicated then that.

Besides, who determines who the 'wise' and the 'unwise' are?
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check the IQ expert prof lyn... then check the SAT math test scores to see if they both agree and they DO .. a high logic ability test must be given to be able to vote... china may be doing this behind closed doors.. america's wise founders had also a wisdom test for voters and they called it a property test but it was not a property test because women could own property .... it was a wisdom test
 
SailaWay said:
check the IQ expert prof lyn... then check the SAT math test scores to see if they both agree and they DO .. a high logic ability test must be given to be able to vote... china may be doing this behind closed doors.. america's wise founders had also a wisdom test for voters and they called it a property test but it was not a property test because women could own property .... it was a wisdom test
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Judging by your grammar and inability to construct a coherent post you would fail the test.
 
zyzygy said:
Judging by your grammar and inability to construct a coherent post you would fail the test.
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and einstein would horse laugh you out of the building like he always have parrots and one who copy like parrots
 
SailaWay said:
check the IQ expert prof lyn... then check the SAT math test scores to see if they both agree and they DO .. a high logic ability test must be given to be able to vote... china may be doing this behind closed doors.. america's wise founders had also a wisdom test for voters and they called it a property test but it was not a property test because women could own property .... it was a wisdom test
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what does an iq test have to do with wisdom????

I have seen people with dysfunctional brains immensely more wise and loving then people with high scores on test.

Hell, the 'scientist' don't even exact;y know what they are measuring and so much to say about the stupidity of the test.

I have studied a lot of these testing in my clinical psychology class and I can tell you psychologists act as if they do

undertand these test, but I can assure you that they don't.
 
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