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Bazant Misconduct website is launched[W:111]

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Annnnnnd there was no flammable material in the core structure.

WTF are you talking about?

Nor is there in the elevator shafts of any building.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?

And no evidence that there was an opening for fires to have even gotten near core structure.

The people who investigated disagree.

The official story is a progressive collapse from the east to the west, not a symmetrical takedown of the core.

There was no "takedown of the core". You are simply regurgitating Tony Szamboti.

A poor choice.
 
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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?

Some engineers think that was due to fire....

Well, practically all of them.

ETA - The challenge was "Got an intelligent theory for CD yet?"
There has never been a legitimate mechanism provided for a fire induced collapse of WTC 7.
 
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Annnnnnd there was no flammable material in the core structure. Nor is there in the elevator shafts of any building. And no evidence that there was an opening for fires to have even gotten near core structure. The official story is a progressive collapse from the east to the west, not a symmetrical takedown of the core.

Please describe the "core structure" of WTC7.

Please.

Your words.

The "core structure".
 
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WTF are you talking about?



Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?



The people who investigated disagree.



There was no "takedown of the core". You are simply regurgitating Tony Szamboti.

A poor choice.

Fire needs stuff to burn in order to continue being fire.
 
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So effing what?

Intelligent and educated people made intelligent and educated predictions.

Do you have a point?

Be blunt.

Intelligent and educated predictions are based on precedent. Nobody had a legitimate basis or precedent for predicting a natural collapse of WTC 7.

The 1:00 PM prediction that the building was going to collapse could only have been based on foreknowledge of intentional demolition.
 
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Please describe the "core structure" of WTC7.

Please.

Your words.

The "core structure".

wtc-7-supports-lg-0808.jpg

The core structure is the small rectangle inside of the big trapezoid.
 
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Intelligent and educated predictions are based on precedent. Nobody had a legitimate basis or precedent for predicting a natural collapse of WTC 7.

Precedent not required....

Simple understanding of the effects of fire on steel combined with observable instability = Intelligent prediction.
 
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And...

You contend no combustibles?

WTH did you get that from?

You see, the core structure had the elevator shafts and a lot of the giant steel columns, which were coated with fireproofing.

It would be a bad idea to have office furnishings in the core structure because the elevators zipping up and down all around you would drive you nuts. Also, it's very dark in there so you couldn't see what you were doing. So, there wouldn't be any carpets, paper, or furniture in the core structure because there would not have been anybody doing office work in there. If there are no office furnishings, there's nothing for an office fire to burn.
 
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Precedent not required....

Simple understanding of the effects of fire on steel combined with observable instability = Intelligent prediction.

That is baloney. The understanding prior to 911 is that fires do not generate enough energy to heat the massive steel structure to the point of failure. That is why no steel framed high rise has ever come down due to fire. The Cardington tests proved this in no uncertain terms.

There were no visuals which would have indicated instability. If you try to say something about an alleged "bulge" you need to say how that would indicate instability.

The truth is that there was no basis for predicting a natural collapse of WTC 7. Therefore, any prediction of an imminent collapse could only have been based on the foreknowledge that the building was going to be demolished.
 
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You see, the core structure had the elevator shafts and the structural steel, which was coated with fireproofing.

It would be a bad idea to have office furnishings in the core structure because the elevators zipping around all around you would drive you nuts. Also, it's very dark in there so you couldn't see what you were doing. So, there wouldn't be any carpets, paper, or furniture in the core structure because there would not have been anybody doing office work in there. If there are no office furnishings, there's nothing for an office fire to burn.

And yet fires burned and the "core" was impacted by the heat.

Seems everyone who investigated disagree with your claim.

Where did you get this new rabbit hole from?

http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861611

Page 385 for example....
 
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That is baloney. The understanding prior to 911 is that fires do not generate enough energy to heat the massive steel structure to the point of failure. That is why no steel framed high rise has ever come down due to fire. The Cardington tests proved this in no uncertain terms.

There were no visuals which would have indicated instability. If you try to say something about an alleged "bulge" you need to say how that would show instability.

There was no basis for predicting a natural collapse of WTC 7. Therefore, any prediction could only be based on the foreknowledge that the building was going to be demolished.

Your OPINION that people cannot make intelligent predictions without precedent is noted. And laughed at.

Your OPINION that a bulge would not show instability is too noted. And laughed at as well.

So, intelligent CD theory yet?
 
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And yet fires burned and the "core" was impacted by the heat.

Seems everyone who investigated disagree with your claim.

Where did you get this new rabbit hole from?

http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861611

Page 385 for example....

You see, NIST thinks that WTC 7 was brought down by a fire-induced progressive collapse from the east to the west starting with column 79. Column 79, the seventy-ninth of the giant columns coated with fireproofing, was not in the core structure. It was near the north-west corner of the building.

But you also see, when NIST made a computer model of Building 7 to try to figure out how it collapsed, they took out important parts of the building that made it stronger. So, what NIST has to say about the actual collapse of the building is irrelevant because they lied about how strong the building was. So, anybody who agrees with the official story of a collapse from fire because of what they read from NIST is wrong because they just read a bunch of lies.
 
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You see, the core structure had the elevator shafts and a lot of the giant steel columns, which were coated with fireproofing.

It would be a bad idea to have office furnishings in the core structure because the elevators zipping up and down all around you would drive you nuts. Also, it's very dark in there so you couldn't see what you were doing. So, there wouldn't be any carpets, paper, or furniture in the core structure because there would not have been anybody doing office work in there. If there are no office furnishings, there's nothing for an office fire to burn.

Get a clue about the elevators...

Elevators.JPG
 
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You see, NIST thinks that WTC 7 was brought down by a fire-induced progressive collapse from the east to the west starting with column 79. Column 79, the seventy-ninth of the giant columns coated with fireproofing, was not in the core structure. It was near the north-west corner of the building.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?

Since the eastern penthouse went first... Take a guess which column was associated with it.

But you also see, when NIST made a computer model of Building 7 to try to figure out how it collapsed, they took out important parts of the building that made it stronger. So, what NIST has to say about the actual collapse of the building is irrelevant because they lied about how strong the building was. So, anybody who agrees with the official story of a collapse from fire because of what they read from NIST is wrong because they just read a bunch of lies.

Wow... MORE CLAIMS..... MORE RABBIT HOLES....

You are now in full WHACK-A-MOLE mode now.
 
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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?

Since the eastern penthouse went first... Take a guess which column was associated with it.



Wow... MORE CLAIMS..... MORE RABBIT HOLES....

You are now in full WHACK-A-MOLE mode now.

You see, there were some people standing around Building 7 taking videos with their cameras. Before the East Penthouse caved in, the cameras recorded some loud rumbling sounds. Play this video and listen real closely for the low "boom" sound before the East Penthouse caves in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqbUkThGlCo

Also, this nice man listened real closely to another video of the collapse of Building 7 and found that you can hear the exact same rumbling sound before the East Penthouse caved in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhoNYj9_fg

One man named "Deryll" that was hundreds of feet away from the building said on the radio that he heard something that sounded like a "clap of thunder" before the entire thing fell to the ground. So, of course, there must have been some really heavy stuff going on in the building a few moments before the East Penthouse caved in. Some people like to say that this is just the sound of small parts of the building collapsing before the East Penthouse came along with it, but they forget that it makes no sense for the rumbling noises that happened before the East Penthouse caved in to be louder than the rest of the collapse. In fact, in the CBS video, you can't hear the rest of the collapse after that low "boom" sound at first.

The reason why a lot of people think that the building was making these loud sounds before it fell down is because little bombs were going off to make the building weaker, before more little bombs made the entire thing fall down to the ground.
 
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You see, there were some people standing around Building 7 taking videos with their cameras. Before the East Penthouse caved in, the cameras recorded some loud rumbling sounds. Play this video and listen real closely for the low "boom" sound before the East Penthouse caves in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqbUkThGlCo

Also, this nice man listened real closely to another video of the collapse of Building 7 and found that you can hear the exact same rumbling sound before the East Penthouse caved in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhoNYj9_fg

One man named "Deryll" that was hundreds of feet away from the building said on the radio that he heard something that sounded like a "clap of thunder" before the entire thing fell to the ground. So, of course, there must have been some really heavy stuff going on in the building a few moments before the East Penthouse caved in. Some people like to say that this is just the sound of small parts of the building collapsing before the East Penthouse came along with it, but they forget that it makes no sense for the rumbling noises that happened before the East Penthouse caved in to be louder than the rest of the collapse. In fact, in the CBS video, you can't hear the rest of the collapse after that low "boom" sound at first.

The reason why a lot of people think that the building was making these loud sounds before it fell down is because little bombs were going off to make the building weaker, before more little bombs made the entire thing fall down to the ground.

More CLAIMS..... Precious little understanding.

Do you REALLY think the collapse of WTC7 would be silent?

There were rumbles... SO WHAT?

CLUE: CONTROLLED DEMOLITION IS NOT LOW RUMBLING SOUNDS.....

Your understanding of explosives appears the same as many Truthers.... Comic Book/Hollywood level of understanding.

Now "little bombs" are going off to weaken a structure that showed signs of instability HOURS before....

Where were these "little bombs" and who planted them?

And why didn't the fires set off the "little bombs"?

Do you have ANY clue what preparation goes into a REAL CD?
 
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