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Woman Claims Her Daughter's Photo was used for a Sandy Hook Shooting Victim

Tell me who was so efficient to open a donation account in Credit Union for poor Emily and then set up a page in facebook the same day of her death? Even two hours before poice confimed the death?

Joined Facebook 12/14/2012

Native of Utah, Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting at Sandy Hook Elem. We are seeking to assist the Parkers by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah.
Description
Instructions on the Emilie Parker Memorial Account at America First Credit Union (account #5001359). For AFCU members making a transfer, select the Savings as the type of account, and the last name on the account is Parker. For non AFCU members, the AFCU routing number is 324377516. This account has been shared by several Utah media outlets and can be trusted. Thank you.

A PAYPAL account is also available if you use the email brookeprothero@yahoo.com

https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund/info
 
Tell me who was so efficient to open a donation account in Credit Union for poor Emily and then set up a page in facebook the same day of her death? Even two hours before poice confimed the death?

That facebook account does not exist, so why are you linking us to something that does not exist?

This one does though and proves you are wrong. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Emilie-Parker-Fund/475476179175096?sk=info

Basic Info
Joined Facebook 01/17/2013



Do you always just make up crap like this?
 
That facebook account does not exist, so why are you linking us to something that does not exist?

This one does though and proves you are wrong. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Emilie-Parker-Fund/475476179175096?sk=info

Basic Info
Joined Facebook 01/17/2013



Do you always just make up crap like this?

Why when you click the link you give does it come to a blank page and the ONLY info on it is; Basic Info Joined Facebook 01/17/2013

Do you have to "like" the page to see whats on it?
 
Why when you click the link you give does it come to a blank page and the ONLY info on it is; Basic Info Joined Facebook 01/17/2013

Do you have to "like" the page to see whats on it?

I havent liked the page. All that you need to do is click the link in top left corner..
 
I havent liked the page. All that you need to do is click the link in top left corner..

The "top left corner" is rather vague, but I found if I clicked on the flag or the "Emilie Parker Fund" text, it'd take me to the page.. pretty basic, just some comments from some people, no place I could see to donate anything (maybe you need to like the page to see that part?). There's only 15 likes on it as of this writing apparently. Anyway, I think we're getting distracted from a more important issue: why did they take down the original Emilie Parker Fund page? Was it because it was made before Emilie Parker was officially pronounced dead? Not to mention the fact that whether she's dead at all has been contested:
Sandy Hook: The curious case of Emilie Parker | Fellowship of the Minds
 
The "top left corner" is rather vague, but I found if I clicked on the flag or the "Emilie Parker Fund" text, it'd take me to the page.. pretty basic, just some comments from some people, no place I could see to donate anything (maybe you need to like the page to see that part?). There's only 15 likes on it as of this writing apparently. Anyway, I think we're getting distracted from a more important issue: why did they take down the original Emilie Parker Fund page? Was it because it was made before Emilie Parker was officially pronounced dead? Not to mention the fact that whether she's dead at all has been contested:
Sandy Hook: The curious case of Emilie Parker | Fellowship of the Minds

Its not vague it was direct instructions.


And perhaps the first account was a fraud. Its not unheard of after all or maybe the owner didnt like being spammed by truthers? BTW were you aware that there is an actual website that was made for the Emilie Parker Fund It has a link to the facebook page that I linked not \he one that you linked. Emilie Parker Fund

And it has a different email for the paypal donation.

N.Y. woman arrested over Newtown massacre scam
 
Its not vague it was direct instructions.

Direct, sure, but I still maintain they were vague.

And perhaps the first account was a fraud.

A fraud that knew of Emilie's death before the police announced it? A pretty prescient fraud there. Unless, ofcourse, Emilie Parker's alleged death was known well in advance of it being announced by the police by those who put up the page. In which case, it makes sense. There are multiple anomalies in the Parker family; people have suspicions on her alleged father's mood shortly before giving a speech on her death, as well as the notion that she died at all, as you know. One anomaly is one thing, but multiple anomalies stretches credulity to its limit.

Its not unheard of after all or maybe the owner didnt like being spammed by truthers?

Or maybe the fact that the page was created before Emilie Parker was pronounced dead looked suspicious. I hope that you are atleast considering that possibility.

BTW were you aware that there is an actual website that was made for the Emilie Parker Fund It has a link to the facebook page that I linked not the one that you linked. Emilie Parker Fund

And it has a different email for the paypal donation.

It doesn't take away from the fact that a facebook page was apparently up before Emilie Parker was pronounced dead.


Well, atleast you can concede that there was atleast one scam in this event.
 
Direct, sure, but I still maintain they were vague.
sigh...



A fraud that knew of Emilie's death before the police announced it? A pretty prescient fraud there. Unless, ofcourse, Emilie Parker's alleged death was known well in advance of it being announced by the police by those who put up the page. In which case, it makes sense. There are multiple anomalies in the Parker family; people have suspicions on her alleged father's mood shortly before giving a speech on her death, as well as the notion that she died at all, as you know. One anomaly is one thing, but multiple anomalies stretches credulity to its limit.


Or maybe the fact that the page was created before Emilie Parker was pronounced dead looked suspicious. I hope that you are atleast considering that possibility.



It doesn't take away from the fact that a facebook page was apparently up before Emilie Parker was pronounced dead.
This isnt any real proof that anyone has shown that confirms the exact actual time that the page was made. The fathers behavior isnt proof of anything. Nor do notions add up to proof. ANd do you think that the police only notified the families of their loved ones death in a single public speech? Why would you even assume such a thing? Left and Right the authorities have been providing grief counselors. Were any on the family still hanging around the fire department when it was announced who was dead?


See its endless assumptions like that that truthers make that remove all logic from the conversation.


Well, atleast you can concede that there was atleast one scam in this event.
Thats a scam which is not the same as a hoax or a conspiracy theory.
 
A fraud that knew of Emilie's death before the police announced it? A pretty prescient fraud there. Unless, ofcourse, Emilie Parker's alleged death was known well in advance of it being announced by the police by those who put up the page. In which case, it makes sense. There are multiple anomalies in the Parker family; people have suspicions on her alleged father's mood shortly before giving a speech on her death, as well as the notion that she died at all, as you know. One anomaly is one thing, but multiple anomalies stretches credulity to its limit.

Or maybe the fact that the page was created before Emilie Parker was pronounced dead looked suspicious. I hope that you are atleast considering that possibility.

It doesn't take away from the fact that a facebook page was apparently up before Emilie Parker was pronounced dead.

This isnt any real proof that anyone has shown that confirms the exact actual time that the page was made.

I never said I personally had proof, though it may exist. I'm simply asking you to consider the possibility that the datestamp was legitimate.

The fathers behavior isnt proof of anything.

Again, I never said it was. I and others simply find it to be suspicious.

Nor do notions add up to proof.

First of all, I'd call these points evidence, not notions. One can, ofcourse, debate the importance and validity of evidence, but I believe that the evidence strongly suggests that the official story is false regarding these points. And these are only a few of the many points that suggest this.

ANd do you think that the police only notified the families of their loved ones death in a single public speech? Why would you even assume such a thing?

It's a good point, but how likely do you think it would be that the family would immediately go to work creating a facebook page?

Well, atleast you can concede that there was atleast one scam in this event.

Thats a scam which is not the same as a hoax or a conspiracy theory.

I agree, but they all involve deception. My understanding is that the difference between a scam and a hoax is that a scam involves money while a hoax does not. Both are generally considered to be minor crimes. Conspiracy theories are generally to be reserved for larger ones.
 
If you cant figure it out something as simple as using facebook then its not my problem.

my point was it is a blank page with no information on it besides the created date is what you linked. Sorry you didnt get that....we need a sarcasm font...LOL
 
my point was it is a blank page with no information on it besides the created date is what you linked. Sorry you didnt get that....we need a sarcasm font...LOL

Did you click on the flag or the Emilie Parker Fund button, both on the left hand side? That should get you a little box of text on the right hand side with comments from people regarding Emilie Parker's death. Apparently, that's all there is on the page.
 
I never said I personally had proof, though it may exist. I'm simply asking you to consider the possibility that the datestamp was legitimate.



Again, I never said it was. I and others simply find it to be suspicious.
lol well of course I knew that you had no proof. ANd no I will not submit to your paranoia thank you.



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irst of all, I'd call these points evidence, not notions. One can, ofcourse, debate the importance and validity of evidence, but I believe that the evidence strongly suggests that the official story is false regarding these points. And these are only a few of the many points that suggest this.

Nope they are notions and fantasies. lol you already admitted to that.

It's a good point, but how likely do you think it would be that the family would immediately go to work creating a facebook page?

Does not matter how likely just that its likely. You cant say that it is 100% unlikely so that leaves you again with just a notion followed by fantasy.

I agree, but they all involve deception. My understanding is that the difference between a scam and a hoax is that a scam involves money while a hoax does not. Both are generally considered to be minor crimes. Conspiracy theories are generally to be reserved for larger ones.
The existence of prior conspiracies does not prove that all notions are real conspiracies. Curious though you seem to believe the official story on this New York womens scam, why is that? Why are you not suspicious about that story and are about just certain stories? Why not every gun related story that arises? Was it because you were not told to talk about those other stories? I mean you tried to make it clear that you have importance in posting here at DP right? Is that importance being a paid poster for the truther movement?
 
I never said I personally had proof, though it may exist. I'm simply asking you to consider the possibility that the datestamp was legitimate.

lol well of course I knew that you had no proof.

How?

ANd no I will not submit to your paranoia thank you.

You offer no proof that the datestamp was not legitimate, but you have no problem claiming that I'm paranoid for pointing out the possibility that it may be. Your confirmation bias is so obvious, why can't you see it?

First of all, I'd call these points evidence, not notions. One can, ofcourse, debate the importance and validity of evidence, but I believe that the evidence strongly suggests that the official story is false regarding these points. And these are only a few of the many points that suggest this.

Nope they are notions and fantasies. lol you already admitted to that.

I admitted that the evidence, in this case a timestamp, may be messed up. This does not mean I'm saying it actually is messed up. Do you see the difference?

It's a good point, but how likely do you think it would be that the family would immediately go to work creating a facebook page?

Does not matter how likely just that its likely.

I see no evidence that it would be likely at all. If your daughter had just died, would you get cracking on a facebook page where people could donate money?

I agree, but they all involve deception. My understanding is that the difference between a scam and a hoax is that a scam involves money while a hoax does not. Both are generally considered to be minor crimes. Conspiracy theories are generally to be reserved for larger ones.

The existence of prior conspiracies does not prove that all notions are real conspiracies.

We can agree on that at any rate.

Curious though you seem to believe the official story on this New York womens scam, why is that?

Just because I'm willing to accept that it is true doesn't mean I'm completely sure.

Why are you not suspicious about that story and are about just certain stories?

It seems like a straightforward scam. If one day I heard that it was her sister that did the scam, then her, or that first she used her brother's computer to do it, then her sister's, then hers, that first she did it the day before the event, then the day after, the first page was deleted for some unknown reason... well then, yes, I think I'd be a little more suspicious. But most important of all, no one is claiming that she killed anyone, let alone 20 children. People only have so much time in a given day; I'd rather focus mine on issues that are more important then where or not a person wanted to score some money off of the Sandy Hook event.

Why not every gun related story that arises?

Same deal as above.

Was it because you were not told to talk about those other stories? I mean you tried to make it clear that you have importance in posting here at DP right? Is that importance being a paid poster for the truther movement?

Whatever FFA -.-
 
Did you click on the flag or the Emilie Parker Fund button, both on the left hand side? That should get you a little box of text on the right hand side with comments from people regarding Emilie Parker's death. Apparently, that's all there is on the page.

Nope, all I did was click the link FreedomFromAll gave and it brought me to a blank page.
 
Nope, all I did was click the link FreedomFromAll gave and it brought me to a blank page.

Yes, that's what you get initially. You have to click on the flag or the Emilie Parker Fund button to see the box of comments that people have put up. Even then, it's not exactly a very full facebook page, but atleast it has those comments.
 
Yes, that's what you get initially. You have to click on the flag or the Emilie Parker Fund button to see the box of comments that people have put up. Even then, it's not exactly a very full facebook page, but atleast it has those comments.

Thats because the information is here Emilie Parker Fund ANd now that facebook page that linked is gone as well,

Most likely truthers spammed it with idiotic claims of assholeness.
 
Woman Claims Her Daughter's Photo wasused for a Sandy Hook Shooting Victim

Published on Jan 2, 2013
Sandy Hook Shooting Victim Allison Wyatt does not exist. Her photo wasstolen from her mother's Flickr page. The girl's name is Lily Gaubert and sheis alive and well.


A 'fortunate group' to know 'Allie'

Amanda Cuda

Updated 10:37 pm, Thursday, December 20, 2012
"You are a very fortunate group," said the Rev. Walter L. Pitman, who led the service. "At some point over the past six years, Allie Wyatt got in your way and you are better for it."

No family or friends spoke at the service, attended by several hundred people. It was only Pitman, who is actually a senior pastor at another church in Southbury.

He said he didn't know the Wyatt family before last week's tragedy, but has spent some time over the past few days getting to know them and their beloved Allie.

Read more: A 'fortunate group' to know 'Allie' - Connecticut Post
 
Wow, so similar to the biographies related to the passengers on 11 September. A eulogy given, a story told, by a man who did not even know her. Seems odd that the family would not speak. :confused:
 
Wow, so similar to the biographies related to the passengers on 11 September. A eulogy given, a story told, by a man who did not even know her. Seems odd that the family would not speak. :confused:

I agree. I think we should be clear, a girl named Allyson Wyatt may exist; but the picture in the OP of this thread was a picture of a girl named Lily Gaubert. It had been been taken from her mother's flicker page, and used in a mainstream media article. The media outlet later switched Gaubert's picture for another. The question is, why did they put in that picture of a girl by another name to begin with? And why didn't they apologize for the mistake? It also gets one to think; if the first one was fake, who's to say that the second one isn't as well? And the possibility that no girl named Allyson Wyatt died at Sandy Hook is also certainly possible as far as I can tell.
 
With the pictures, you describe a process that also played out with some of the pax. Random posting of "accidental" pictures. :doh
 
With the pictures, you describe a process that also played out with some of the pax. Random posting of "accidental" pictures. :doh

What's "pax"? Also, could you elaborate on this random posting of "accidental" pictures?
 
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