PNAC/Rebuilding America's Defenses and 9/11

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Now here is the actual PDF file of this written document published in Sept. 2000. "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Page 63 is where it says, and I quote, "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Unlike what other people say about switching planes, controlled demolitions, etc, this is a written document that clearly states that the goals laid out in it, wont be seen unless there is a new "Pearl Harbor."

Now it seems that PNAC may have been just a sideline interest for the events of the day.

According to work by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz, the main purpose of the attacks might very well have been to facilitate getting rid of evidence regarding $240 billion worth of US securities. And it seems to have worked quite well, considering that on that afternoon for the first time ever, certain emergency rules were invoked that allowed those securities to be cleared NOT in accordance with standard procedures.

Oh, the web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

Henry David said:

Now it seems that PNAC may have been just a sideline interest for the events of the day.

According to work by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz, the main purpose of the attacks might very well have been to facilitate getting rid of evidence regarding $240 billion worth of US securities. And it seems to have worked quite well, considering that on that afternoon for the first time ever, certain emergency rules were invoked that allowed those securities to be cleared NOT in accordance with standard procedures.

Oh, the web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

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So WHAT "evidence" ... from WHERE ... and WHOM are those people you name that they are right ???

Surely you have something approaching evidence or proof of what you say or is your words somehow supposed to be enough ???

"The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle. "

Since when is the Project setting US policy? Anyone can write a paper and put it out on the internet. Many think tanks write letter to Congress or the President.

Welcome to the Project for the New American Century

I'm not saying I totally believe this, but I do understand where some conspiracy theorists come from.

Think about it, Project for a New American Century, New World Order (Novus Ordo Seclorum on the US currency), One World Government, etc. It's not like the term New World Order was something crazy people thought up. Guys like George HW Bush, GWB, even Obama has mentioned the need for a NWO, or One World Government in the world.

I had always been more inclined to think that the Bush regime criminals simply ignored clear intelligence and allowed 9/11 to take place to further their imperialist ambitions. However, as I've looked into 9/11 more in recent days, I cannot get over some aspects of that day.

For example, Project Abel Danger was going on that morning, and it took most of our fighter jets far from the attack sites. On top of that, look at building 7. How on earth did that building collapse? I can almost get behind the two towers collapsing naturally, and even that's a stretch. Plus, other buildings closer to the two towers were hit by debrie far more severely than building 7, and yet building 7 collapsed at free fall into its own footprint. Add to that the countless eye-witness reports of explosions going off in the building and you have an very sinister scenario.

Oh and why is it that many of the alleged hijackers of that day are alive and well? And how did one of these hijacker's passports fly out of a 2000 degree fireball of jet fuel and land on the street nearly perfectly intact? And why did that plane hit the pentagon at the exact and only spot that was constructed to withstand something like that? And how did the pentagon hijacker pull off such an astonishing and difficult manoever to smash the plane into that exact spot, when his own flight instructors said he couldn't fly? And why on earth were nearly all these hijackers connected to American intelligence? There are WAY too many anomalies and inconsistencies in the official story, so as a critical thinker, I must remain skeptical.

Oh and if you don't think the state can stoop so low as to murder its own citizens for political gain, take a look at the Northwoods document, where they actually PLANNED to stage terror attacks to justify war against Cuba.

Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The whole New World Order thing is not a conspiracy theory anymore, almost all of it is openly admitted now, though it is certainly spoken of as something great for humanity. The fact is, a small number of elite international bankers have overwhelming influence on all of society and they are consciously and consistently working, through round-table groups like the CFR and Builderberg, and through the control of currencies and financial systems, to bring the world together into a global system of governance with them at the helm. We are in very dark times right now, and I'm hoping people will wake up and do something to stop this.

I_Gaze_At_The_Blue said:

So WHAT "evidence" ... from WHERE ... and WHOM are those people you name that they are right ???

Surely you have something approaching evidence or proof of what you say or is your words somehow supposed to be enough ???

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Not that you would understand or believe madam.

It is nearly impossible to reason with people too deep in denial.

mike2810 said:

"The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle. "

Since when is the Project setting US policy? Anyone can write a paper and put it out on the internet. Many think tanks write letter to Congress or the President.

Welcome to the Project for the New American Century

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Since the US government was taken over by special interests Mike, that's when.

Ike even warned about it in 1961, perhaps before you were born. Powerful men behind the scenes hijack the control of government.

Henry David said:

Not that you would understand or believe madam.

It is nearly impossible to reason with people too deep in denial.

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So you have NOTHING then ... figures !!!

Intricate said:

I had always been more inclined to think that the Bush regime criminals simply ignored clear intelligence and allowed 9/11 to take place to further their imperialist ambitions. However, as I've looked into 9/11 more in recent days, I cannot get over some aspects of that day.

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Simple ineptitude and incompetence is NOT deliberate will.

Intricate said:

For example, Project Abel Danger was going on that morning, and it took most of our fighter jets far from the attack sites.

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Nope ... wrong ... sorry.

No such "project" took place ... there WAS a military drill called Vigilant Guardian, a regular ANNUAL one done since the Cold War which shadowed a similar Russian one, testing NUCLEAR preparadness as it simulated a Russian nuclear bomber threat out over the ARCTIC CIRCLE.

A NORAD sponsored yearly drill involving NORAD air bases ... which are ringed on the landmass perimeter, so DIDN'T "take" anything away.

Intricate said:

On top of that, look at building 7. How on earth did that building collapse?

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Simple ... it was SEVERELY damaged by falling debris from the Towers which started MULTIPLE fires on MULTIPLE floors and which were left UNFOUGHT for near SEVEN HOURS ... a state of affairs which gradually weakened the structure until it was no longer able to withstand the stresses and so collapsed.

Truther claims seem to ignore that WTC was an IRREGULAR TRAPEZOID structure with uneven column layout built OVER an electric sub-station and which was LARGER than originally planned for ... that it fell from so much damage is NOT so hard to see, understand and accept.

Fire Fighters KNEW it was going to collapse, having monitored its slow weakening throught the day, measuring it with transits and seeing it fail slowly ... the FDNY were NOT surprised it fell and they understand how structures respond to fire.

THEY have no problem with it ... funny how truthers whom were NOT there and have ZERO expertise in fire or structures are the only one that do !!!

Here ... ASK them ...

FDNY Companies with Websites

For surely IF you are genuine and an honest person you understand that speaking directly to the people MOST intimately involved is the best way possible to find answers ... will you be as spineless as every truther before you and not do any such honest or direct thing ...

Course you will !!!

Intricate said:

I can almost get behind the two towers collapsing naturally, and even that's a stretch.

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Why ... do you just not get kinetics and gravity then ???

Intricate said:

Plus, other buildings closer to the two towers were hit by debrie far more severely than building 7,

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Most of which were beyond repair and demolished ... that is STILL a building failure.

Intricate said:

and yet building 7 collapsed at free fall into its own footprint.

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Is this old lie still doing the rounds ???

Free-fall is 32 feet per second squared ... which would have worked out at about 9.2 seconds for the much higherTowers !!!

Seismic evidence puts the timings at around 15 seconds for WTC2 and 22 for WTC1 ... that is therefore some 75% longer than free-fall for WTC1 ... and 200% longer than free-fall for WTC2.

WTC7 took 18 seconds which is almost 300% longer than actual free-fall for the building !!!

AND it did NOT fall into its "own footprint" either ... unless you call it falling all over Barcley Street ACROSS THE STREET "own footprint" ...



But pray do tell me WHY truthers are so suggestible and gullible enough to fall for this whole "own footprint" mantra ... when EVEN just plain old-fashioned common sense tells you that a debris field of around 18 acres for buildings that had architectural footprint of around just THREE ACRES makes that claim a total falsehood ... please explain to me the mental gymnastics truthers need do to make that seem even rational ???

Intricate said:

Add to that the countless eye-witness reports of explosions going off in the building and you have an very sinister scenario.

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Nope ... again wrong.

Are you really so lacking in simple understanding that you fail to see that people tend to use HYPERBOLIC and METAPHORICAL language to describe extraordinary events ... and that LIKENING sounds of things blowing up in fires and damage is NOT the same as describing actual bombs.

Things blow up in fires ... do you really think the Towers somehow did not have stuff that can go BOOM in fires ... no electrical or pressurized equipment that is liable to cook off in fires ???

Add to that that NOBODY suffered ANY sign of blast injuries and we have proof positive there were NO actual explosives there ... blast injuries are UNIQUE ... nothing else causes them, so the absence of such injuries shows there was ZERO actual explosives there.

It IS this simple Intricate ...

NO BAROTRAUMA = NO BOMBS !!!

Intricate said:

Oh and why is it that many of the alleged hijackers of that day are alive and well?

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They aren't ... but I suppose the idea of similarity of names or identity theft didn't cross !!!

Intricate said:

And how did one of these hijacker's passports fly out of a 2000 degree fireball of jet fuel and land on the street nearly perfectly intact?

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Not only was it NOT intact and perfect ... MILLIONS of other bits of paper survived too ... simple common sense tells you that paper, card and lightweight objects tend to be light enough to get BLOWN OUT OF HARMS WAY ... that a BRIGHT GREEN passport survived and was spotted alongside literally MILLIONS of other such items is no big deal.

Global Graphica » Tapestry Made of Paper Debris from the Twin Towers

Intricate said:

And why did that plane hit the pentagon at the exact and only spot that was constructed to withstand something like that?

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Erm, because that was WHERE the turn brought him up to face ... :roll:

Flight Path

Intricate said:

And how did the pentagon hijacker pull off such an astonishing and difficult manoever to smash the plane into that exact spot,

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WHAT exactly is so damm "astoninshingly difficult" about a DESCENDING TURN that covers a FULL 360° ... a FULL CIRCLE covering miles ???

Seriously ...

Intricate said:

when his own flight instructors said he couldn't fly?

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See this is the lie of truther sites ... they NEVER show you the WHOLE and FULL interviews for if they did it would show you that the instructore was REFERRING TO ONE POINT in time ... and that he IMPROVED from that point on.

And why do you fall for thinking ONE POINT in time is the whole ???

Hajour obviously IMPROVED from then to the point where he PASSED the FAA Airman tests ... therefore he was a FULLY-QUALIFIED COMMERCIAL PILOT ... taking one point at the start of his training and trying to make it the entire is both dishonest and misrepresentative.

But again truther sites NEED to lie and be so deceptive ... they can't afford to be truthful and honest !!!

Intricate said:

And why on earth were nearly all these hijackers connected to American intelligence?

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Simple ... they weren't !!!

Intricate said:

There are WAY too many anomalies and inconsistencies in the official story, so as a critical thinker, I must remain skeptical.

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Nope ... there is just some people ignorant and gullible enough to fall for misleading and misrepresented claims and opinions by those whom were NOT there that day nor have ANY of the skills needed to understand it.

Have you been looking at those teenage boys of Loose Change or something ???

Intricate said:

Oh and if you don't think the state can stoop so low as to murder its own citizens for political gain, take a look at the Northwoods document, where they actually PLANNED to stage terror attacks to justify war against Cuba.

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No ... again WRONG.

They did NOT "plan" to do any such thing ... it was a blue-sky thinking PROPOSAL ... that got REJECTED.

Intricate said:

The whole New World Order thing is not a conspiracy theory anymore, almost all of it is openly admitted now, though it is certainly spoken of as something great for humanity. The fact is, a small number of elite international bankers have overwhelming influence on all of society and they are consciously and consistently working, through round-table groups like the CFR and Builderberg, and through the control of currencies and financial systems, to bring the world together into a global system of governance with them at the helm. We are in very dark times right now, and I'm hoping people will wake up and do something to stop this.

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How delightfully teenage !!!

Henry David said:

Since the US government was taken over by special interests Mike, that's when.

Ike even warned about it in 1961, perhaps before you were born. Powerful men behind the scenes hijack the control of government.

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No, I was around in 1961.

I appreciate your candor.

I was just 13 when Ike left office. I can remember him as President, and campaign buttons that everybody wore in those days.

Tons of wisdom and truth in what he says in his Farewell Speech which can be found at Google. Tons.

His worst nightmares have come true with a vengeance.

@I_Gaze_At_The_Blue I did not read your full post but one thing stood out to me. You said WTC7 took 18 seconds to fall? 18 SECONDS!? I recommend you see the video and count the seconds yourself. Remember, seconds go 1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, etc.



Believe me, the mysterious free-fall collapse of WTC7 is what drew me into the conspiracy theories. You mean to tell me flying debris caused a fire so intense that it melted or weakened the steel of a 47 story building? Have you not seen the photos of WTC Buildings 3-6 and how badly damaged they were, yet, their structures were still standing?



I guess we should also ignore the fact that there was a plan for a "Pearl Harbor" like attack on ourselves laid out in a document written a full year before that attack. How do skeptics explain that?

nevermind_me said:

@I_Gaze_At_The_Blue I did not read your full post but one thing stood out to me. You said WTC7 took 18 seconds to fall? 18 SECONDS!? I recommend you see the video and count the seconds yourself. Remember, seconds go 1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, etc.



Believe me, the mysterious free-fall collapse of WTC7 is what drew me into the conspiracy theories. You mean to tell me flying debris caused a fire so intense that it melted or weakened the steel of a 47 story building? Have you not seen the photos of WTC Buildings 3-6 and how badly damaged they were, yet, their structures were still standing?

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I guess we should also ignore the fact that there was a plan for a "Pearl Harbor" like attack on ourselves laid out in a document written a full year before that attack. How do skeptics explain that?

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Before replying care to provide a link to the document?

mike2810 said:

Before replying care to provide a link to the document?

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Its in the original post you'll see it there. The whole document is 90-something pages long but if you want to go to the exact page where it states a need for an attack, go to page 63.

nevermind_me said:

Its in the original post you'll see it there. The whole document is 90-something pages long but if you want to go to the exact page where it states a need for an attack, go to page 63.

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Yes, don't read the rest of the document to get the actual context for the writing, just read the quote after being barraged with an unaccepted theory. That will surely send the reader into believing something mischievous rather than anything else, however mundane.

Fiddytree said:

Yes, don't read the rest of the document to get the actual context for the writing, just read the quote after being barraged with an unaccepted theory. That will surely send the reader into believing something mischievous rather than anything else, however mundane.

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The context of the document is laying out different goals for the United States in the coming years. This one quote states, "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, will likely be a long one, absent a catostrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor." Not sure how you can take that out of context.

nevermind_me said:

The context of the document is laying out different goals for the United States in the coming years. This one quote states, "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, will likely be a long one, absent a catostrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor." Not sure how you can take that out of context.

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By supposing that it naturally means a conspiracy of proportions never before seen, inflicted within. That's the elimination of the context under which it was created.

Operation Northwoods.

KevinKohler said:

Operation Northwoods.

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Oh stop. That's the first line of defense for you guys every time.

False flag operations are deceptive and done for personal or political gains. Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Germans used what was known as the Reichstag fire for political gains. Hitler even went on to say that, “Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.”

Fiddytree said:

Oh stop. That's the first line of defense for you guys every time.

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Let me ask you something though. What do you believe is the reason (or are the reasons) that we invaded Iraq?

nevermind_me said:

Let me ask you something though. What do you believe is the reason (or are the reasons) that we invaded Iraq?

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A large number of the officials in the administration believed that the regime posed a threat to U.S. interests through: 1) its previous WMD program 2) a believed untenable containment policy. The administration became susceptible to group think, and the warring between the State Department and the Department of Defense eventually ended when the latter seized the upper hand through inner-administration fights. Its proposition of how to proceed with the regime was key. The administration cherry-picked information that it genuinely believed proved their point, George W. Bush's management style was to expect consensus rather than encourage multiple groups to compete and debate one another, and enough members of the American government believed the first point to make it likely that action would be taken. The Defense Department was outlining a strategy that wanted to re-conceptualize how the United States ought to deal with terrorism, namely to not treat it as a policing measure, but to look at its supposed roots. The roots were seen as being defined by the character of the regime, socio-economic status, and other measurements. This strategy believed that Iraq was incorporated into the War on Terrorism because the regime was possibly complicit, or would likely be complicit with terrorist organizations. It was also incorporated in the War on Terrorism because it was a primary concern for U.S. foreign policy to begin with.

nevermind_me said:

Its in the original post you'll see it there. The whole document is 90-something pages long but if you want to go to the exact page where it states a need for an attack, go to page 63.

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you realize this group is not the govt.

mike2810 said:

you realize this group is not the govt.

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The group itself was not. There was William Kristol (former Chief of Staff to Quayle) and several low-level employees renting office space from AEI (the group that ironically receives little attention from Truthers, considering its overwhelming numbers in the administration). The proposition is not unlike other writings produced by William Kristol and Robert Kagan a few years before, but it has some of the characteristic points of other people, like Rumsfeld (whose big goal was to transform the military). This document states explicitly that many of the signatures had a hand in its drafting, but again, this was a low level staffer faxing documents to the signatories' homes or offices for approval.

Truthers just like the document because of that one line, and everyone likes spook stories. The FPI has received little attention as well, probably because it doesn't have that one-liner, but it's the same set-up. Reality is far less sexy than that.