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China prepares to invade United States through Canada and Mexico

Is there anyone out there actually stupid enough to believe this? Hard to imagine.

There are people stupid enough to believe almost anything. And trust me, I have seen some really strange beliefs over the years. In fact, a look through the forums here will reveal some of those whacky beliefs.
 
There are people stupid enough to believe almost anything. And trust me, I have seen some really strange beliefs over the years. In fact, a look through the forums here will reveal some of those whacky beliefs.
There are even a few hard core birthers left. How stupid would they have to be?
 
Actually the reason I put it here is to serve as an example and a warning.

A lot of people I have noticed will take any whacky claims, and try to pass them off in here as the truth. DU cruise missiles, aircraft carrier killer missiles, military assassination teams, and the like are often spread around here as gospel truth, even though there is little to no proof that they actually exist.

And this is a perfect example of this kind of thing happening. If you look around, plenty of the types of sites that thrive on conspiracy theories have gobbled this up and passed it around as the truth. And strangely enough, there are sites that still claim these were real events.

UPDATE on Chinese Troops In Mexico | The Strong Watchman

The Lowdown on Chinese Troops in Mexico

Conservative Patriot: READ AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF - CHINESE TROOPS IN MEXICO?

And this apparently is a copy of the original post that started it all off:

Steve Quayle News Alerts

So if you go by the criteria of a lot of people here as to what a "real reference" is, this is a factual and true event. Simply because they found a "tinfoil hat" group on the Internet that says it is real (and one that even says they checked for themselves and confirmed it!). But none are reputable, none are verifyable, and none have any kind of real information. Just hype.

The aircraft carrier killer missile is plausible as it could be made. And there are definitely military assassination teams (eg Seal Team 6)

Edit: Military assassination teams (http://www.alternet.org/news/147944...rica's_military_strategy_in_the_muslim_world/) (http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/31/seymour_hersh_secret_us_forces_carried) (http://motherjones.com/politics/2008/03/us-militarys-assassination-problem)
 
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This has got to be literally the dumbest thread I have ever read on this forum. Strike that -- on ANY forum.

It doesn't belong in the Military area. It doesn't belong in the Conspiracy Theories area. It should be deleted, and whoever does the honors should first wash their hands and then their keyboard.

China on our border? Really? They hold 1/6th of all of America's public debt, and you think they want to just kiss that money goodbye? They're ready to risk the wrath of a nation with a nuclear arsenal within their own borders? The Mexican military is organized enough and sneaky enough to help them set up right on our border -- not just to the south of it, but to the north of it as well?

Next you'll tell us that Ireland is preparing to send the 1st Leprechaun Airborne to parachute into Fort Knox.

I WANT MY LOST IQ POINTS BACK!

blarg
 
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In other news America will also be invaded by the Horde...

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Complete bull****. I think Oozle wanted to fish out the idiots (he's too smart to actually believe this BS)
Firstly, it would take massive amounts of logistics to even sustain the troops there, let alone in an invasion
Secondly, why would Canada and Mexico want Chinese troops in their homeland? It would take a diplomatic miracle of wrangling to get such thing, and as history shows, such cases are extremely rare and only in cases of emergency or war, which the both countries aren't in.
Thirdly, it would take a technological miracle not to have the troops detected by either surveillance or espionage of the Chinese government
Fourthly, something this big would have been in the mainstream media very quickly
Fifthly, the government knows more than simple blogs about enemy troop movements

I can list at least 10 more, but I think these five suffice enough to prove it's a hoax
 
chinese food has been sucking rather lately.
 
There's absolutely no possible way that a military movement that size would move that close to us without being noticed, and dealt with. 10,000 vehicles, and a military building miles wide? Those things happen overnight all the time.
 
The aircraft carrier killer missile is plausible as it could be made. And there are definitely military assassination teams (eg Seal Team 6)

Seal Team 6 is not an assassination team. Unless you consider it assassination to take out the mastermind of a terrorist organization, or assassination to kill some scumbag pirates that are holding American citizens hostage.

SWAT teams all over the world do this on an almost daily basis.

And not, the DF-21D "Aircraft Killer Missile" is not real, plausable, nor could it be made. OK, with this one caveat: It would be effective, it if had a nuclear warhead.

Otherwise, it is all smoke and mirrors. Been covered before, been busted before.


And that is pretty much what I have been talking about. Just looking at some of the "Headlines" on some of those sites makes me eyes start to bleed.

alternews.net: How Half of Terror Cases Investigated By the FBI ... Were Also Hatched by the FBI, The 5 Dumbest Right-Wing Reactions to Hurricane Irene, How Corporate and Political Forces Have Almost Neutralized All Avenues of Resistance in US Culture

democracynow.org: San Francisco Bay Area’s BART Pulls a Mubarak, Army Ranger Widow Confronts Rumsfeld over His Lies that Convinced Her Husband to Join the Military, As Grim Details Emerge, Guatemalan Victims Seek Justice for U.S. Medical Experiments in 1940s (like whores anywhere need the US to infect them with VD)

motherjones.com: Attack of the Monsanto Superinsects, A Privately Owned Nuclear Weapons Plant in…Kansas City, Ft. Hood Shooting: What's the Army Hiding?

Yea, looking through all of those, I see perfect exampled of neutral, unbiased and factually honest reporting.

Really, I do. I also have some prime land for sale in Texas. And even more in Florida.
 
This is the stupidest s*** I have heard in a while. The sites are completely ridiculous. This is what you find when you go to Crisisboom's about page (About: Crisisboom « CRISISBOOM)



From the Baytown Blog link:

(emphasis added)

This is just some more internet BS.

The more funnier thing is the comments at the homepage in the crisisboom blog
 
Seal Team 6 is not an assassination team. Unless you consider it assassination to take out the mastermind of a terrorist organization, or assassination to kill some scumbag pirates that are holding American citizens hostage.

SWAT teams all over the world do this on an almost daily basis.

And not, the DF-21D "Aircraft Killer Missile" is not real, plausable, nor could it be made. OK, with this one caveat: It would be effective, it if had a nuclear warhead.

Otherwise, it is all smoke and mirrors. Been covered before, been busted before.



And that is pretty much what I have been talking about. Just looking at some of the "Headlines" on some of those sites makes me eyes start to bleed.

alternews.net: How Half of Terror Cases Investigated By the FBI ... Were Also Hatched by the FBI, The 5 Dumbest Right-Wing Reactions to Hurricane Irene, How Corporate and Political Forces Have Almost Neutralized All Avenues of Resistance in US Culture

democracynow.org: San Francisco Bay Area’s BART Pulls a Mubarak, Army Ranger Widow Confronts Rumsfeld over His Lies that Convinced Her Husband to Join the Military, As Grim Details Emerge, Guatemalan Victims Seek Justice for U.S. Medical Experiments in 1940s (like whores anywhere need the US to infect them with VD)

motherjones.com: Attack of the Monsanto Superinsects, A Privately Owned Nuclear Weapons Plant in…Kansas City, Ft. Hood Shooting: What's the Army Hiding?

Yea, looking through all of those, I see perfect exampled of neutral, unbiased and factually honest reporting.

Really, I do. I also have some prime land for sale in Texas. And even more in Florida.

Umm the US did infect Guatemalans with syphilis and gonorrhoea

Not a conspiracy theory but an actual event


While the title of Monstanto's Superinsects is over the top, the story behind it is not. Inscets are developing a resistance to Bt GM crops developed by Monsanto
 
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Complete bull****. I think Oozle wanted to fish out the idiots (he's too smart to actually believe this BS)

I can list at least 10 more, but I think these five suffice enough to prove it's a hoax

Actually, I made this half in jest and half in seriousness.

A lot of people in here and other forums believe almost anything they read, as long as it fits in with what they want to believe. From day 1 I knew this was complete nonsense, and quickly realized it would have tied in with the style of viral media that has become popular in the last decade. But what amazed me is the number of actual blog and web sites that actually bought into it.

So yes, part of this was for humor. The other was to see if people actually paid attention, and had any clue on how to vette their own sources. Because to many people in here, if you can find 2 or 3 sources that all say the same thing, it therefore is reliable and factual.

And it is also interesting because there was almost no comment on the sources themselves, only that the actual idea was stupid. Therefore nobody critically looked at the sources themselves. Also telling. So now it seems that most people enter these debates with completely closed minds, and neither try to check sources, nor even seem to care what they are (unless it is to blast them).

This interestingly told me a lot on how people think and react in here.
 
I saw this in another forum I belong to, and thought I would throw it up in here and see what you all think about it.
It seems that there are reports that Chinese troops are massing in Mexico. Apparently a truck driver from Texas saw their formations, being escorted by Mexican Police. And he saw a staging area with over 10,000 armored vehicles.

Chinese Troops Seen in Mexico « CRISISBOOM

Internet reports of Chinese Troops in Mexico and Canada going Viral | The Baytown Blog

Now I have my own opinion as to what this is actually about. But before I say what it is, I would love to see what some of you think about this development.

Chinese Invasion Imminent? - YouTube

Have the Canadians been told?
 
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You see, you see....even the mods are trying to keep the truth from the Mexicans by hiding this thread in here.
 
The main difference between a true conspiracy and a hoax is what we see in this thread; few people other then those who knows it's a hoax are even bothering with the subject.
 
The main difference between a true conspiracy and a hoax is what we see in this thread; few people other then those who knows it's a hoax are even bothering with the subject.


I am not sure if I would classify this as a hoax, as much as an attempted PR campaign.

For a hoax, generally you have at least somebody who is trying to get a reaction out of somebody, normally for either a joke or to make them look stupid for reacting to it. I think this was just one of viral marketing campaigns that some people bought into, for a movie to long before it was released.
 
I am not sure if I would classify this as a hoax, as much as an attempted PR campaign.

For a hoax, generally you have at least somebody who is trying to get a reaction out of somebody, normally for either a joke or to make them look stupid for reacting to it. I think this was just one of viral marketing campaigns that some people bought into, for a movie to long before it was released.

Was there a movie where China invaded the U.S.?
 
Was there a movie where China invaded the U.S.?

The remake of Red Dawn (originally scheduled to be released about 6 months after these reports started). The movie was then pushed back another year, and the enemy changed from China to North Korea.
 
The remake of Red Dawn (originally scheduled to be released about 6 months after these reports started). The movie was then pushed back another year, and the enemy changed from China to North Korea.

I see. Tell me Oozle, do you believe China to be a threat to the U.S. for real? Perhaps not in a military sense, but an economic one?
 
Actually, I made this half in jest and half in seriousness.

A lot of people in here and other forums believe almost anything they read, as long as it fits in with what they want to believe. From day 1 I knew this was complete nonsense, and quickly realized it would have tied in with the style of viral media that has become popular in the last decade. But what amazed me is the number of actual blog and web sites that actually bought into it.

So yes, part of this was for humor. The other was to see if people actually paid attention, and had any clue on how to vette their own sources. Because to many people in here, if you can find 2 or 3 sources that all say the same thing, it therefore is reliable and factual.

And it is also interesting because there was almost no comment on the sources themselves, only that the actual idea was stupid. Therefore nobody critically looked at the sources themselves. Also telling. So now it seems that most people enter these debates with completely closed minds, and neither try to check sources, nor even seem to care what they are (unless it is to blast them).

This interestingly told me a lot on how people think and react in here.


Holey Hannah, Ooze, you replied to something almost a year and half OLD.

And Necromancered a long-dead thread...



Zombie thread rises from the grave: "Brains! Brains!!"


Looks around DP... "Brains!! Brains??"


Wanders off forlornly into the night.... "Brains? Brains???"
 
I see. Tell me Oozle, do you believe China to be a threat to the U.S. for real? Perhaps not in a military sense, but an economic one?

I see them as a potential threat militarily, because they are trying to flex their muscles and posture and threaten critical US allies. I do not see them as a direct threat, but we may end up getting mixed up with them if they get much more aggressive against our allies. Do I see us fighting China itself? No, not really. But if they make any moves against Taiwan, Japan or the Philippines of yes, I definately see us getting involved.

As far as an economic threat, not really at all. They are much more dependent upon us economically then we are upon them. As far as the US is concerned, they are simply a source of cheap manufactured goods. And a source that until 2 decades ago was primarily provided from a few dozen other nations. If an embargo or pull-out from either side was to happen, we would see inflastion and short-term shortages until other nations picked up the slack again.

However, their economy is almost totally dependent upon the exports sent to the US, we make up around 1/3 of their direct economy. This I see as a danger, because just like WWII when the US enacted an embargo upon Japan and they saw it as a fait accompli that put us in a de facto war with them (that was their cassius belli for a de jeure war), if that was to happen again we might end up in another war.
 
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