George Banner saying 'Hi!'

Hi! George Banner’s my name. First post here.
I’m white, straight, male, individualist, Capitalist and a MGTOW monk.
Most folks consider me very much on the right of things.
But that depends on what you call the ‘right’
There’s not one collectivist bone in me, though. Maybe that’s the ‘right’
I love the America the Founding Fathers established and expected to thrive.
‘A Republic . . . if you can keep it’, right? Well . . . we couldn’t. Or we wouldn’t. But, in any case, we didn’t.
Individual Liberty, America’s first, main and almost only basic principle means that the government doesn’t get to mess with you just because some bureaucrat feels it’s a good idea or it just appears as fun to him. And this goes double for LE.
Now, THAT . . . would be if America was still America as it was founded and intended.
It isn’t.
Not any more.
I would love to see us go back to the intention of the Founding Fathers.
We probably won’t.
Now the part about the ‘fun’ mentioned just above has an importance that it is not generally afforded. Quite a lot of what our ‘betters’ in the political and bureaucratic establishment torture us with is just for fun. Their fun. For the same reason a dog licks its balls: because it can AND it’s fun.
With undeserved power plus no accountability comes great evil. The idiot child that tortures an insect, pulling it apart alive, limb by limb, just to see it squirm to death, the concentration camp guard that throws a living child into a lit oven with a smirk, the bureaucrat that demands people comply with California gun laws, the libtard that tells us ‘we have to pass the bill to know what’s in it’ and the criminal that betrays her post causing the death of decent Americans and has the temerity of asking ‘what difference does it make?’ are animated by the same poisonous spirit that allows itself to play with its victims because it can do so due to undeserved power plus no accountability.
I hate collectivism in any way, shape or form.
Not to abuse the length of this modest intro I’ll end up by saying Ayn Rand was the most valuable thinker I ever encountered. Not surprising to me, she chose America as her refuge and homeland. One for the other. The Founding Fathers would have welcomed her.

If one uses the term "libtard", one is probably very right wing.

That's one ambitious introduction, George. Usually we just get a couple sentences, maybe a full paragraph. You seem like a rather extreme person along the authoritarian-libertarian axis; you'll probably get a ton of flack from many different angles, but anyone who argues their side honestly can find a home on here, especially if they can do so effectively! Painting an entire swathe of the political compass as freedom-hating libtards isn't the best start on that, but you do you.

Anyway, welcome to the forum! Enjoy your stay.

"If one uses the term "libtard", one is probably very right wing."

Yes. I'm told that often. There's quite a problem with the definition of 'right' It is used, quite often abusively, by different people to mean different things.
Often, for example, 'very right wing' is understood by some to mean 'fascist'
But, as I've stated, there's not a collectivist bone in me and I hate fascism in every variant including the libtard one.

Jesse Booth said:

That's one ambitious introduction, George. Usually we just get a couple sentences, maybe a full paragraph. You seem like a rather extreme person along the authoritarian-libertarian axis; you'll probably get a ton of flack from many different angles, but anyone who argues their side honestly can find a home on here, especially if they can do so effectively! Painting an entire swathe of the political compass as freedom-hating libtards isn't the best start on that, but you do you.

Anyway, welcome to the forum! Enjoy your stay.

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I don't get the 'authoritarian' It's like telling me I'm purple. I'm not. But I recognize your right to say it.
Getting 'a ton of flack from many different angles' is a way of living for me.
Thanks for your welcome!

George_Banner said:

"If one uses the term "libtard", one is probably very right wing."

Yes. I'm told that often. There's quite a problem with the definition of 'right' It is used, quite often abusively, by different people to mean different things.
Often, for example, 'very right wing' is understood by some to mean 'fascist'
But, as I've stated, there's not a collectivist bone in me and I hate fascism in every variant including the libtard one.

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Anyone who can't stand collectivism is a friend of mine, but I've yet to see someone on here who throws around words like libtard and conservatard be taken seriously. Just a heads up.

George_Banner said:

I don't get the 'authoritarian' It's like telling me I'm purple. I'm not. But I recognize your right to say it.
Getting 'a ton of flack from many different angles' is a way of living for me.
Thanks for your welcome!

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I never called you authoritarian, merely commented on the scale that had it at one end. Everything you've said so far suggests you're at the far end away from authoritarianism.

Jesse Booth said:

I never called you authoritarian, merely commented on the scale that had it at one end. Everything you've said so far suggests you're at the far end away from authoritarianism.

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Let's see if I can add something valuable people taught me, a long time ago.
The moral and political spectrum is frequently represented by a line with a sickle and hammer on the left and a swastika on the right and a center that would represent decent people usually running for their lives trying to avoid the bombs flying overhead and trying to avoid being enslaved by the extremes.

But that, and this is my position, is a mistake that those 'extremes' already mentioned, appreciate because it helps them to avoid the truth:

If you pinch the line at the center and move that center to the right and join the two former extremes at the left you get that both the sickle and hammer disciples and the swastika followers are the same animal with different plumage and fall under the characterization of being simply collectivists.
And on the right you'll now find those who reject collectivism and are willing to respect the equal rights of others and establish Constitutional Republics like the good, ole USA.

You see? Both leftists and fascists quack like a duck and walk like a duck and end up putting decent folks in concentration camps/gulags like the fascist ducks they both are.

That's my modest take on the matter and I hope I was able to explain it not too confusingly.

George_Banner said:

"If one uses the term "libtard", one is probably very right wing."

Yes. I'm told that often. There's quite a problem with the definition of 'right' It is used, quite often abusively, by different people to mean different things.
Often, for example, 'very right wing' is understood by some to mean 'fascist'
But, as I've stated, there's not a collectivist bone in me and I hate fascism in every variant including the libtard one.

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No one called you fascist.

Perhaps this will clarify. Are there "contards"?


I'll also note that using pejoratives referencing the challenged is low class and unethical. The challenged are fine people, like any other innocent group, and should not be used to mean bad.

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I'm quite aware of horseshoe theory, thank you. I was referring specifically to the political compass, which divides different political philosophies along an economic axis and an authority axis. You strike me as though you're close to the bottom of the authority axis, and fairly far to the right.

ecofarm said:

No one called you fascist.

Perhaps this will clarify. Are there "contards"?


I'll also note that using pejoratives against the challenged is low class and unethical. The challenged are fine people, like any other innocent group, and should not be used to mean bad.

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The standard terminology is conservitard, or sometimes conservatard. Granted, I haven't seen it in use in a while.

Jesse Booth said:

The standard terminology is conservitard, or sometimes conservatard. Granted, I haven't seen it in use in a while.

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If he believes those exist perhaps there is some balance, character issues of using the pejorative aside.

ecofarm said:

If he believes those exist perhaps there is some balance, character issues of using the pejorative aside.

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Given that he's a proponent of horseshoe theory, I think that balance is a given with George.

ecofarm said:

No one called you fascist.

Perhaps this will clarify. Are there "contards"?


I'll also note that using pejoratives referencing the challenged is low class and unethical. The challenged are fine people, like any other innocent group, and should not be used to mean bad.

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Contards? Why, those are the people who believe contrails are chem-trails. And yes, the government is definitely in on that along with the Glomar Explorer, the Bilderbergs, the Hindenburgs, and the ice bergs. I prolly left some out, but you never know just how far such things go.

Oh goody, another live one.

Please don’t mind if I try to answer several items in one post.
And apparently this has to go in two parts since it is too long.
Part 1 of 2

Are there ‘contards’? Sure. But since the country and most of the West, for that matter, is in the hands of libtards and circling the drain, I’m not worried about contards.

Libtards, on the other hand, are destroying our world and all that is good in it.
Let’s put it like this: of our current serious problems, 99% are caused by libtards.

Every stupid idea that comes out of . . . everywhere: libtards.
Every restriction to the respect for the inalienable rights of the individual that we suffer: libtards.
Every destruction of sacred values that we have experienced and continue to experience: libtards.
Who is trying to teach sexual perversion in elementary school?: libtards.
Who is destroying American education?: libtards.
Who wants to destroy the 1st Amendment?: libtards.
Who wants to destroy the 2nd Amendment?: libtards.
Who wants to fill the country with fascist criminals from the worst cesspools of the world?: libtards.
Who destroyed the MSM and turned it into a sack of bat guano crazy libtard clowns?: libtards.
Who destroyed Hollyweird to the point normal people can’t enjoy ANYTHING that comes of that sewer, anymore?: libtards.
Who wants to practice sexism against boys and men and racism against whites while pretending they have a ‘right’ to do so?: libtards.
Who wants to change the language to suit their day to day craziness and wants to FORCE others to obey their desiderata?: libtards.
Who wants to spend money we don’t have by printing funny ‘money’ with the abandon of drug addicts?: libtards.
Who wants to distribute what’s not theirs in the name of ‘social justice’?: libtards.
Who wants to kill Western civilization and the industrial revolution with the religion of ‘climate (whatever)’?: libtards.
Who wants to allow claims of crimes committed decades ago without proof and be taken at their word and have the objects of their attacks punished without due process, just because?: libtards.
Who wants to turn our military into The Rocky Horror Picture Show?: libtards.
Who wants to force degeneracy into everybody’s lives?: libtards.
Who wants to enslave the human race to the failed fascist lie of communism (that ‘this time we are going to do it right’)?: libtards.
And, by the way, for all the libtards out there, freedom of speech is not the ‘freedom’ to make others shut up.

In the agitation of the political passions language is one of the most abused of tools.


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Part 2 of 2

There are quite a lot of good things I would love to conserve.
There are quite a lot of thing that have been lost and I would love to bring back.
Does that make me a conservative?
Because if it does . . . quite a lot of conservatives don’t like me, very much.

I’m an atheist. And most conservatives are quite religious. And much as many profess to respect other people’s freedom of thought they really dislike atheists.
Look at the delight in the condition of ‘atheist’ of the guy who shot the church in Texas, by so many conservatives. Many religious folks hate atheists with the passion of many nazis against Jews. In fact, in some circles, ‘atheist Jew’ is the epitome of insults. By ‘atheist’ they point out to not believing in the deity of Jesus.
If being an atheist means to go around shooting at church goers I have to apologize for being as behind as I am in my duties. I hope they don’t cancel my atheist card.

And don’t bother accusing me of not being politically correct. It’s a waste of time. I’m not. And I’m proud of it.

I go around life triggering and offending quite a lot of people. Don’t like me? Don’t read me. And all the Trigglypuffs and antifas and libtards and feminazis and varied collectivists can jump off a cliff. I don’t need them. I don’t respect them. I think they are a waste of oxygen.

We are living in a strange time.
Things may not be what they appear to be.
Gaslighting is the order of the day.
Many a ‘friend’ appears so only because they expect something from you that is not exactly friendship.
Many of those who you might lightly and mistakenly consider an enemy are the ones whose hand might suddenly appear to help you if you fall while your former ‘friends’ are nowhere to be seen.
We are living in a strange time.
People are superficial and hasty and fast to boil out of their manners for the slightest of wrongly perceived ‘offenses’
The national sport is now ‘I’M OFFENDED!!!’ (Screamed with Trigglypuff’s voice.) Sure you are.
We are living in a strange time.

Libtards are pervert, corrupt, poisonous creatures more appropriate for the classical role of demons than the natural role of humans. Well . . . almost humans.

Don’t worry about contards. They are not the problem. They might have been in the Dark Ages. But this is 2017. The creep who wants your ten year old daughter to have to share the locker room and bathroom with some male pervert out of a horror movie is not a conservative. She is a libtard. And while she does all those corrupt things she will call you ‘toxic’ and ‘rapist’ for trying to defend your daughter from perverts.
We are living in a strange time. Remember that.







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In fact, in some circles, ‘atheist Jew’ is the epitome of insults. By ‘atheist’ they point out to not believing in the deity of Jesus.

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Atheist means no deities, not 'no Jesus'. Atheist Jew would mean an atheist of Jewish ethnicity. That's not an insult.

'Atheist Jew' meaning non-Jesus religious Jew? No one is insulted by that, it's just stupid and incorrect. Misusing terms is not insulting.

George_Banner? Prophetic handle? :mrgreen:

ecofarm said:

Atheist means no deities, not 'no Jesus'. Atheist Jew would mean an atheist of Jewish ethnicity. That's not an insult.

'Atheist Jew' meaning non-Jesus religious Jew? No one is insulted by that, it's just stupid and incorrect. Misusing terms is not insulting.

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I’m an atheist. I know what it means.

So, there are people, and that is why I wrote ‘in some circles’, that are at the same time devout Christians AND highly Jew-hating or anti-Semitic.

Now, in those circles, ‘atheist’ is a serious insult and 'Jew' is a serious insult.
They enjoy themselves by putting the two together to make what, in their eyes, is a super-insult: ‘atheist Jew’
What do they mean? First, the guy is a Jew, a bad thing for them for reasons of Christian tradition AND second, no matter how religious the Jew can be AS A Jew, he obviously does not believe in the deity of Jesus so THAT, in their eyes, paints him as an ‘atheist’ (that was already a serious insult, to them) and that makes their super-insult: ‘atheist Jew’
And no, it doesn’t have to make sense to you or me.
google it up. Brings about 50,000 results.

Rexedgar said:

George_Banner? Prophetic handle? :mrgreen:

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You lost me.
Help me out, here.
I'm slow and not very bright.

George_Banner said:

I’m an atheist. I know what it means.

So, there are people, and that is why I wrote ‘in some circles’, that are at the same time devout Christians AND highly Jew-hating or anti-Semitic.

Now, in those circles, ‘atheist’ is a serious insult and “Jew” is a serious insult.
They enjoy themselves by putting the two together to make what, in their eyes, is a super-insult: ‘atheist Jew’
What do they mean? First, the guy is a Jew, a bad thing for them for reasons of Christian tradition AND second, no matter how religious the Jew can be AS A Jew, he obviously does not believe in the deity of Jesus so THAT, in their eyes, paints him as an ‘atheist’ (that was already a serious insult, to them) and that makes their super-insult: ‘atheist Jew’
And no, it doesn’t have to make sense to you or me.
google it up. Brings about 50,000 results.

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So you agree it's nonsense and no one finds it insulting. It doesn't matter if someone wants it to be an insult, it's not. It's just a term they made up and no one cares about.

I will note that antisemitism is not a Christian thing, it's a racist thing.