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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    All those people who voted for Trump solely because Trump would stack the Supreme Court with conservative justices, this is one big **** you.
    As Trump didn't 'stack' the court with Roberts, your 'big fu" is misplaced. Rather, it was Bush that was a boneheaded idiot of that appointment.

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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

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    In Canada, the total.number.keeps going up.

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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    As Trump didn't 'stack' the court with Roberts, your 'big fu" is misplaced. Rather, it was Bush that was a boneheaded idiot of that appointment.
    JR is young too. You'll get to whine about him for decades.
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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

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    I'm not the reason it's protected. It's protected because people believe that 2-4 thousand years ago, semi-illiterate goat herders knew how the universe works.
    Well do you support the 1st Amendment?
    First Amendment | U.S. Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
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    The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individualís religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.
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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Well, of course. It only stands to reason that criticism of the petition's denial would follow, since churches were clearly subjected to different rules than other venues. Specifically, casinos were allowed to operate at 50% of their maximum capacity, when churches were limited to fifty people, regardless of their size. This is pretty clearly disparate treatment, especially when independent examiners concluded the distancing and sanitation protocols employed by the churches met or exceeded CDC guidelines.
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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    technically, if enough people got together and created a Trump Religion they could bypass stuff.

    that's not how a society should function. i'm glad the SC is being logical.

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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Quote Originally Posted by CaughtInThe View Post
    technically, if enough people got together and created a Trump Religion they could bypass stuff.

    that's not how a society should function. i'm glad the SC is being logical.
    How is it "logical" to limit casinos to 50% capacity, while limiting a church, regardless of its size, to fifty people?
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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Number of issues come to mind

    Freedom of Religion- States right to act in a pandemic

    Casinos are regulated by the State and are subject to inspection by State Agencies, no one can dispute that

    Many Churches have adapted to C19 and still have the ability to speak to their respective congregations

    Now, places of worship, can ya imagine if the State tried to inspect a place of worship to ensure State regs/laws were adhered to

    Now that would be a **** storm
    Why would that be a problem? Churches have to abide by the building code, fire code, and health laws? Religious beliefs are not an automatic exemption from secular law. Our religious rights are actually quite limited to the right to worship and the right to believe or not to believe without being arrested or fined by the government. There is no right to worship in a church or to gather and spread a virus in violation of other relevant health laws.
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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    Why would that be a problem? Churches have to abide by the building code, fire code, and health laws? Religious beliefs are not an automatic exemption from secular law. Our religious rights are actually quite limited to the right to worship and the right to believe or not to believe without being arrested or fined by the government. There is no right to worship in a church or to gather and spread a virus in violation of other relevant health laws.
    My point is the casinos are subject to inspection by a raft of Govt agencies who have the authority to close them down immediately

    Churches are not

    Imagine a Govt agency inspecting churches/congregations to ensure they are following State emergency orders.

    Even ICE/DHS is leery of entering a place of worship to remove illegals from the country

    I am not referring to building codes and such, but legally mandated distancing, masks, and such

    Look to LA and the pastor who had large services in violation of State laws ref C19

    Little to nothing done from what I recall
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    Re: COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    My point is the casinos are subject to inspection by a raft of Govt agencies who have the authority to close them down immediately

    Churches are not

    Imagine a Govt agency inspecting churches/congregations to ensure they are following State emergency orders.

    Even ICE/DHS is leery of entering a place of worship to remove illegals from the country

    I am not referring to building codes and such, but legally mandated distancing, masks, and such

    Look to LA and the pastor who had large services in violation of State laws ref C19

    Little to nothing done from what I recall
    Churches are inspected on a regular basis or when there is a problem suspected. The relevant health departments can inspect a church if there is a problem that is suspected. If there is a problem they can mandate it be remedied or the church closed. Our religious rights do no say that we must have a building to worship in. The government cannot be required to provide a person with a bible or any other religious book, even in prison.

    ICE-DHS is a different matter because of the sanctuary benefit that churches enjoy.
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