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    Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    In Kathrine Stewart's new book, “The Power Worshippers - Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism” she defines religious nationalism as a political, not religious, ideology with the goal of gaining political and social power. The movement is anti-democratic. It claims the only legitimate government is based on a strict interpretation of their religion.

    The US movement began with Jerry Falwell and other white southern conservative leaders sifting through a list of topics for a central issue that would galvanize and unite conservative white Christians into a political power house. They came to “abortion” saw it’s potential and created the pro-life movement.

    As Ms Stewart says, today’s pro-life religion was created for the political purpose of establishing religious and political ascendency over other religions, turning religious freedom into religious privilege for themselves and funneling a substantial and increasing flow of federal money into the churches of their movement: essentially a theocracy.

    For those of us who value the secular republic the founding fathers established with the Constitution it is time to counter the power and political meddling of religious nationalism.

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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    In Kathrine Stewart's new book, “The Power Worshippers - Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism” she defines religious nationalism as a political, not religious, ideology with the goal of gaining political and social power. The movement is anti-democratic. It claims the only legitimate government is based on a strict interpretation of their religion.

    The US movement began with Jerry Falwell and other white southern conservative leaders sifting through a list of topics for a central issue that would galvanize and unite conservative white Christians into a political power house. They came to “abortion” saw it’s potential and created the pro-life movement.

    As Ms Stewart says, today’s pro-life religion was created for the political purpose of establishing religious and political ascendency over other religions, turning religious freedom into religious privilege for themselves and funneling a substantial and increasing flow of federal money into the churches of their movement: essentially a theocracy.

    For those of us who value the secular republic the founding fathers established with the Constitution it is time to counter the power and political meddling of religious nationalism.
    Hopefully she's able to obtain treatment. These sound like rather serious paranoid delusions.
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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    Hopefully she's able to obtain treatment. These sound like rather serious paranoid delusions.
    She’s not completely wrong: the pro-life movement is by definition a political movement in contrast to an individual belief that abortion is wrong.And it was started to politicize conservative Christians and certainly advanced the political influence of several fundamentalist leaders.

    But just from the OP description, I suspect the book is a sensationalized work prone to exaggerations and hyperbole
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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    She’s not completely wrong: the pro-life movement is by definition a political movement in contrast to an individual belief that abortion is wrong.
    Well sure. So is the pro-choice movement. Every political movement is by definition a political movement.

    The delusional aspect of the OP is thinking that there is any danger of the US becoming a "theocracy" at any point in the foreseeable future. There is, for that matter, no plausible path by which the US might return to the mores of the 1950's (which is what most religious conservatives want). And 1950's America was very far from a theocracy.
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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    Well sure. So is the pro-choice movement. Every political movement is by definition a political movement.

    The delusional aspect of the OP is thinking that there is any danger of the US becoming a "theocracy" at any point in the foreseeable future.
    Son, the US has been a theocracy at least since Reagan, and even now the Bush dynasty maintains influence over US politics due to Trump's ineptitude.

    path by which the US might return to the mores of the 1950's (which is what most religious conservatives want). And 1950's America was very far from a theocracy.
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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    In Kathrine Stewart's new book, “The Power Worshippers - Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism” she defines religious nationalism as a political, not religious, ideology with the goal of gaining political and social power. The movement is anti-democratic. It claims the only legitimate government is based on a strict interpretation of their religion.

    The US movement began with Jerry Falwell and other white southern conservative leaders sifting through a list of topics for a central issue that would galvanize and unite conservative white Christians into a political power house. They came to “abortion” saw it’s potential and created the pro-life movement.

    As Ms Stewart says, today’s pro-life religion was created for the political purpose of establishing religious and political ascendency over other religions, turning religious freedom into religious privilege for themselves and funneling a substantial and increasing flow of federal money into the churches of their movement: essentially a theocracy.

    For those of us who value the secular republic the founding fathers established with the Constitution it is time to counter the power and political meddling of religious nationalism.
    Without the foundation of the Christian religions on our early colonization you liberals wouldn't have the rights you have. Basic moral and ethical beliefs are largely derived from these religious groups.

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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

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    Son, the US has been a theocracy at least since Reagan
    I seriously hope you're able to get help. It's not healthy to live so disconnected from reality.
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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Without the foundation of the Christian religions on our early colonization you liberals wouldn't have the rights you have. Basic moral and ethical beliefs are largely derived from these religious groups.
    The behavior of “Christians” during the colonial period lacked any sort of morality whatsoever.

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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Evangelicals and fundamentalists have always been anti-democracy.

    Religious nationalism is about their power not the good of the nation.
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    Re: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Without the foundation of the Christian religions on our early colonization you liberals wouldn't have the rights you have. Basic moral and ethical beliefs are largely derived from these religious groups.
    No they are not. Read some of the personal papers of those who wrote the Constitution. Their political ideas came from Greek philosophy, Roman governmental structure, and Enlightenment values on individual freedom. The early Christians that colonized the Americas were disgraceful bigots; anti science adherents, against individual freedoms and held citizens hostage to assorted variations of authoritarian theocracies from Catholicism to Calvinism.

    The Mayflower Compact called non-Puritans on board, "Strangers" and reduced them non-citizens with no rights . The Salem Witch Trials , and the Puritan attack on King Phillip and his tribe were two of the most despicable acts of our early Christian forebears. And then there is the hilarious Puritan envoy to Maine to put a stop to a rather large group of people who were dancing, celebrating Maypole festivals, fraternizing with the Indians, drinking rum on festive occasions and not going to church. Never mind that these good time charlies were hunting beaver, sending skins back to England, making money and paying off their charter loan and the Puritans weren't.


    You have a very insufficient grasp of our nations history.

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