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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Mainly numbers. If you already are going to have well over 50% of the population taking the day off, why not simply declare it a national holiday?

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    Over 50% of the population takes two days off every week - why not declare them holidays?
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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Over 50% of the population takes two days off every week - why not declare them holidays?
    Then some religious groups would claim discrimination because Friday isn't also a holiday ... wait

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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Over 50% of the population takes two days off every week - why not declare them holidays?
    Not the same day, for the same reason. Even many nonChristians would take off Christmas just because of tradition or having Christian relatives. 50% is a low estimate. And I'm pretty sure 50% of workers do not take off their schedules work days.

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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    The treaty of Tripoli is not binding law upon domestic affairs within the United States.
    Bull**** , all treaty's become law the day they are ratified.
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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Lets try to get back on Topic , your more then welcome to start your own conversation on another thread
    Why is this even a question , it was answered completely by the writers and signers of the Declaration of independents and writers and signers of the constitution. Couldn't be made more clear, Simply look at the 11 amendment of this countries first treaty , The treaty of Tripoly. I believe in 1779. Supported and signed by 100% of the congress and made into law with writers and signers of both the Declaration of independents and constitution.
    Article 11 reads:

    Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Dropping it would not be necessary - simply renaming it (perhaps as gifting day?) would suffice.
    Well no, I think dropping it would be better. It's not a legitimate reason for a national holiday, being based on religion.

    Why keep it at all? Christians are still as free to celebrate it as before and would just need to manage their vacation time differently if they needed to.

    I realize the reason may be 'economics' but then it's hypocritical...we should now have a day where we all spend 6 weeks spending to celebrate..."the spending?"
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    Re: Seperation of Church and state

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    OK, then explain the establishment of Christmas (Christ's mass?) as a national holiday (holy day?).
    Oh my this totally shoots down my comment. WOW WOW WOW!
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