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    Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitutional?

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

    The Declaration of independence declares that humans were "created" and states a reliance on "divine Providence." Isn't that a violation of the separation of church and state?

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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "[FONT="]We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

    The Declaration of independence declares that humans were "created" and states a reliance on "divine Providence." Isn't that a violation of the separation of church and state?
    Doesn't bother me. I know atheists and Christians who think it's bad/wrong.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    No. It is a historical document of our nation.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "[FONT="]We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

    The Declaration of independence declares that humans were "created" and states a reliance on "divine Providence." Isn't that a violation of the separation of church and state?
    No. There is nothing in the Constitution about "separation of church and state". The 1st Amendment simply prevents Congress from making any law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, etc.

    Displaying the Declaration of Independence does not violate the 1st Amendment.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Displaying our countries birth announcement is not unconstitutional. But it does contain several lies of which were quoted in the OP.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Of course not. The "creator" Jefferson mentioned was an unknowable entity far removed from the God of Abraham anyway. It just as well could mean "force" or "evolution" or "cosmology" had Jefferson known about it at the time.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "[FONT="]We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

    The Declaration of independence declares that humans were "created" and states a reliance on "divine Providence." Isn't that a violation of the separation of church and state?
    Nope, because it does not establish any particular religion.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadinho View Post
    Of course not. The "creator" Jefferson mentioned was an unknowable entity far removed from the God of Abraham anyway. It just as well could mean "force" or "evolution" or "cosmology" had Jefferson known about it at the time.
    Jefferson did not even believe in some of the stuff he wrote. It was a lot of hype and he knew it.
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Did we really have to ask this question? Which snowflake out there thinks that somehow a display of the Declaration of Independence is all of a sudden unconstitutional?
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    Re: Is displaying the Declaration of Independence in government buildings and schools unconstitution

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Did we really have to ask this question? Which snowflake out there thinks that somehow a display of the Declaration of Independence is all of a sudden unconstitutional?
    None. It’s a strawman constructed by those who believe in government sponsored religion.
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