Is Islam protected by the Constitution?

The topic of this discussion is whether or not Islam is protected by the Constitution.

Muslims do not like our way of life and come here to change our way of life into their way of life. They do not respect our laws and the Qur'an and Sunnah does not teach muslims to respect the laws of the kafir. They come here to murder us which is why this topic should lead to some very interesting discussion.

I will quote from the Qur'an, Sunnah, and Tafsir (the interpretation of the Qur'an) to make my case that Islam is sedition to the Constitution.

Noble Qur'an 2:193, Madinah Period

"And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone).* But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

*footnote: "(V.2:193)
(A) Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Messenger said, "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people till they testify that La illallah wa Anna Muhammmad-ur-Rasul Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah), and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat) and give Zakat, so if they perform all that, then they save their lives, and properties from me except for Islamic laws, and their reckoning (accounts) will be with (done by) Allah." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 1, Hadith No.24).
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Tafsir Al-Qurtubi,

"Fight them until there is no more fitna and the deen belongs to Allah alone.
This is a command to fight every idolater in every place according to those who say that it abrogates the previous ayats. According to those who say that it does not abrogate other ayats, it means: fight those about whom Allah says, "if they fight you". The former is the more likely meaning. It is an unqualified command to fight without any precondition of hostilities being initiated by the unbelievers. The evidence for that is in the words of Allah, "and the din belongs to Allah alone." The Prophet said, " I was commanded to fight people until they say, 'There is no god but Allah.' The ayat and hadith both indicate that the reason for fighting is disbelief because Allah says, "until there is no more fitna," meaning disbelief in this case. So the goal is to abolish disbelief and that is clear.
Ibn 'Abbas, Qatada, ar-Rabi', as-Suddi and others said that fitna here means shirk and the subsequent injury to the believers caused by it. The root of fitna is testing and trial, derived from the term for testing silver when it is put in the fire to separate the impurities from the pure metal.

If they cease, there should be no enmity towards any but wrongdoers.
If they stop and become Muslim or submit by paying jizya in the case of the people of the Book. Otherwise they should be fought and they are wrongdoers and only transgress against themselves. What is done to the wrongdoers is called enmity since it is the repayment of enmity. Wrongdoing and injustice involve enmity and repayment of enmity is also called enmity. The wrongdoers are either those who initiate fighting or those who remain entrenched in disbelief and fitna."

Tafsir Ibn Kathir,

"{Fitnah} meaning, disbelief and worshipping of others with Allah. {and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone).} It refers to the fact that the Religion of Allah (Islam) must be prevalent over other religions. {But if they cease,} meaning, you are stop fighting them the moment they stop fighting the believers, and thereto Islam they turned; for whoever fights them after that, he is then a transgressor; and that there should be no transgression except against the polytheists and wrongdoers. Narrated Nafi' that Ibn 'Umar said that two men there came to him during the dispute of Ibn Az-Zubayr and said: "People are fighting each others. What keeps you from taking part in the fighting despite your being Ibn 'Umar and the Companion of the Prophet (PBUH)?" He said: "What keeps me as such is that Allah prohibited the killing of a Muslim." They said: "Has not Allah said: {And fight them until there is no more Fitnah}?" Ibn 'Umar said: "We fought until there were no more Fitnah and all the religion (worship) was for Allah and you want to fight till the Fitnah befalls and not to let the religion be for Allah."

Yes, it is. /End Thread

Muslims are permitted to lie to disbelievers if it advances Sharia law. This means they can lie under oath.

Sahih Muslim, Vol.6, Hadith [6633] 101 - (2605),

"Chapter 27. Prohibition Of Lying, And What Is Permitted Thereof
[6633] 101 - (2605) Humaid bin 'Abdur-Rahman bin 'Awf narrated that his mother, Umm Kulthum bint 'Uqbah bin Abi Mu'ait -- who was one of the first Muhajir women who swore alligiance to the Prophet--told him that she heard the Messenger of Allah say: "He is not a liar who reconciles between people, saying good things and conveying good things."
Ibn Shihab said (in his Hadith that she said): "I did not hear of any concession being granted concerning anything that people call lies except in three cases: War, reconciling among people, and what a man says to his wife or a woman says to her husband."

Sahih Muslim, Vol.2 (Summarized edition), Book 55, Chapter 49, hadith 1810,

"(49) CHAPTER. Permissible lies
1810. Umm Kulthum bint 'Uqbah bin Abu Mu'ait (who was from the first emigrants) narrated that she heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "He who makes peace between people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar."
Ibn Shihab said: "I heard nothing where what people say can be permissible as lies except in three: war, to make people reconcile and a man's talk to make his wife happy."
In another narration: Umm Kulthum said: "I heard nothing permissible as a lie except these three."

All muslims are expect to fight jihad against disbelievers until there are no non-muslims left. This is part of the pillars of faith in Islam.

Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.1, Book 2, Chapter 26, Hadith number 36,

"(26) Chapter. Al-Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is part of the faith.
36.Narrated Abu Hurairah:The Prophet said, "Allah assigns for a person who participates in (holy battles) in Allah's Cause and nothing causes him to do so except belief in Allah and in His Messengers, that he will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in battle as a martyr)" The Prophet added: "Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any Sariya (an army-unit) going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His Cause."

Comment: "Al-Jihad (Holy Fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of it's pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior. (His Word - La ilaha illallah - none has a right to be worshiped but Allah), and His Religion Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanishes. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries escape from his duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfil this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite."
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Sahih Muslim, Vol.1, Book 1, Chapter 8, Hadith [124] 32 - (20),

"Chapter 8. The Command To Fight The People Until They Say La ilaha illallah Muhammad Rasul-Allah, And Establish Salat, And Pay The Zakat, And Believe In Everything That The Prophet Brought. Whoever Does That, His Life And His Wealth Are Protected Except By Its Right, And His Secrets Are Entrusted To Allah, the Most High. Fight Those Who Withhold Zakat Or Other Than That Is One Of The Duties Of Islam And The Imam Should Be Concerned With The Laws Of Islam

[124] 32 - (20) It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: "When the Messenger of Allah died and Abu Bakr succeeded (as Khalifah) after him, and some of the Arabs reverted to Kufr, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab said to Abu Bakr: 'How can you fight the people when the Messenger of Allah said: 'I have been commanded to fight the people until they say La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshiped but Allah), and whoever says La ilaha illallah, his wealth and his life are protected from me except for a right that is due, and his reckoning will be with Allah"?' Abu Bakr said: 'By Allah! I will most certainly fight those who separate Salat and Zakat, for Zakat is what is due on wealth. By Allah, if they withhold from me a rope that they used to give to the Messenger of Allah, I will fight them for withholding it.' 'Umar bin Al-Khattab said, 'By Allah, as soon as I saw that Allah had opened Abu Bakr's heart to the idea of fighting, I knew that he was right'"
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Sunan An-Nasa'i, Vol.4, Book 25, Chapter 2, Hadith 3099,

"Chapter 2. Stern Warning Against Forsaking Jihad

3099. It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet said, "Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy ." (Sahih)

I did not even cover the bases with this here. My question is this: Where in the Constitution does it say that a foreign army can come in under the guise of emigrants and exterminate the entire population of non-muslims? Since it is Islamic doctrine to murder all disbelievers until there is no more disbelief, this would make such teachings illegal in the United States and not protected by the Constitution.

If anyone disagrees with this then tell me where I have gone wrong?

TheGoverness said:

Yes, it is. /End Thread

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So could you please show me in the Constitution and Bill of Rights where a worldview that demands the deaths of all disbelievers is legal and authorized by the Constitution?

Ploughboy said:

I did not even cover the bases with this here. My question is this: Where in the Constitution does it say that a foreign army can come in under the guise of emigrants and exterminate the entire population of non-muslims? Since it is Islamic doctrine to murder all disbelievers until there is no more disbelief, this would make such teachings illegal in the United States and not protected by the Constitution.

If anyone disagrees with this then tell me where I have gone wrong?

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Given that 99.9% of Muslims in America have not killed a single person, perhaps that is a good indication that your bolded statement is a load of bull.

Ploughboy said:

The topic of this discussion is whether or not Islam is protected by the Constitution.

Muslims do not like our way of life and come here to change our way of life into their way of life. They do not respect our laws and the Qur'an and Sunnah does not teach muslims to respect the laws of the kafir. They come here to murder us which is why this topic should lead to some very interesting discussion.

I will quote from the Qur'an, Sunnah, and Tafsir (the interpretation of the Qur'an) to make my case that Islam is sedition to the Constitution.

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There are no thoughtcrimes in the U.S. and the absolute freedom of belief is protected by the Free Exercise Clause.

"Freedom of Religion, Speech, and the Press" - First Amendment

Freedom of religion goes for Muslims just as much as they go for anyone else.

Ploughboy said:

The topic of this discussion is whether or not Islam is protected by the Constitution.

Muslims do not like our way of life and come here to change our way of life into their way of life. They do not respect our laws and the Qur'an and Sunnah does not teach muslims to respect the laws of the kafir. They come here to murder us which is why this topic should lead to some very interesting discussion.

I will quote from the Qur'an, Sunnah, and Tafsir (the interpretation of the Qur'an) to make my case that Islam is sedition to the Constitution.

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I'm am atheist that wants to persecute the religious but can't because of the Constitution. If you want to throw that out for some religions you're going to have to throw it out for all religions. You and Muslims have a lot more in common than I have with either of you.

If you'd like to just get rid of all religious protections and see how it goes, I'm game. Please do, I can't wait to start persecuting Christians for their beliefs like you want to persecute Muslims.

Ploughboy said:

So could you please show me in the Constitution and Bill of Rights where a worldview that demands the deaths of all disbelievers is legal and authorized by the Constitution?

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The Bible says Christians should bash in the skulls of homosexuals and other sinners. How can we allow such an evil and violent religion to exist in the US? They must be destroyed.

RabidAlpaca said:

The Bible says Christians should bash in the skills of homosexuals and other sinners. How can we allow such an evil and violent religion to exist in the US? They must be destroyed.

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Speaking as an atheist myself, I don't think most people really subscribe to fundamentalist and literal ideas regarding their religion. They're definitely out there, and definitely harmful, but most religious people I've meant don't spend their time thinking "man, we should exterminate all the satanist gays in the name of our lord and savior".

Ploughboy said:

The topic of this discussion is whether or not Islam is protected by the Constitution.

Muslims do not like our way of life and come here to change our way of life into their way of life. They do not respect our laws and the Qur'an and Sunnah does not teach muslims to respect the laws of the kafir. They come here to murder us which is why this topic should lead to some very interesting discussion.

I will quote from the Qur'an, Sunnah, and Tafsir (the interpretation of the Qur'an) to make my case that Islam is sedition to the Constitution.

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Funny how in your case that Islam isn't protected by the constitution you quote everything but our actual constitution. Seems backwards to me. Maybe there is stuff in the constitution you don't want people to read.

Tres1B said:

Speaking as an atheist myself, I don't think most people really subscribe to fundamentalist and literal ideas regarding their religion. They're definitely out there, and definitely harmful, but most religious people I've meant don't spend their time thinking "man, we should exterminate all the satanist gays in the name of our lord and savior".

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Nope. Either both Islam and Christianity are protected under the free exercise of religion or neither are, and then the world's atheists can start persecuting Christians and preparing gallows. Choose carefully Christians.

distraff said:

Funny how in your case that Islam isn't protected by the constitution you quote everything but our actual constitution. Seems backwards to me. Maybe there is stuff in the constitution you don't want people to read.

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"Freedom of religion" is literally in the first amendment (along with speech and press). It's hard to miss unless you're either trying to or never actually read it.

Ploughboy said:

The topic of this discussion is whether or not Islam is protected by the Constitution.

Muslims do not like our way of life and come here to change our way of life into their way of life. They do not respect our laws and the Qur'an and Sunnah does not teach muslims to respect the laws of the kafir. They come here to murder us which is why this topic should lead to some very interesting discussion.

I will quote from the Qur'an, Sunnah, and Tafsir (the interpretation of the Qur'an) to make my case that Islam is sedition to the Constitution.

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Oh look, yet another bigot trying to undermine the Constitution. What a surprise.....not.

I’ll give you a hint buddy. Just about any system of beliefs or values on earth can be twisted, warped or misinterpreted to suit an agenda. That doesn’t give you the right to make blanket statements about millions upon millions of people who’ve never hurt anyone or to try and undermine the freedoms we have in this country.

Lol what a titanic load of crap. No, Muslims do not “come here to murder us”. That’s a downright idiotic claim.

Tres1B said:

"Freedom of religion" is literally in the first amendment (along with speech and press). It's hard to miss unless you're either trying to or never actually read it.

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His copy of the constitution has black marker crossing out of parts he wants to ignore, probably half the constitution.

The Constitution does not define religion.
The Supreme Court has not defined religion.
So Congress could define religion so as Islam does not meet the criteria as a religion. Of course that would be challenged and the finale arbiter on that would be SCt.
They could indeed go with what congress decided or go with something completely different.

Aristaeus said:

Given that 99.9% of Muslims in America have not killed a single person, perhaps that is a good indication that your bolded statement is a load of bull.

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If they were to try and take the country by force right now they would be squashed. Jihad in Europe is in full swing and London now has a muslim Mayor! Thus Political Islam is what threatens us. Here are all the steps of jihad from Islamic law (sharia).

Islamic Jurisprudence:

Provisions Of The Afterlife: Which Lie Within Prophetic Guidance (translation by Ismail Abdus Salaam), pp.262-263,

The Levels Of Jihaad
"There are four levels of jihaad: jihaad waged against the soul, jihaad waged against Shaytaan, jihaad waged against disbelievers, and jihaad waged against hypocrites.
1. One wages jihaad against his soul so that he may learn the religion of truth which is the sole source of happiness and success.
2. One wages jihaad against his soul so that he may act once he has learned. Otherwise, knowledge would be futile if not harmful.
3. One wages jihaad against the his soul so that he may teach. Otherwise, he would be like those who withhold the guidance of Allaah. Consequently, his knowledge would not save him from the punishment of Allaah,
4. One wages jihaad against his soul so that he may endure the difficulty of teaching, and he does so entirely for Allaah.
Once one has completed these four levels, he joins the ranks of those who know the truth and act accordingly.
Fighting Shaytaan
This jihaad has two levels:
1. One wages jihaad against Shaytaan to repel the doubt which he casts.
2. One wages jihaad against Shaytaan to repel his temptation.
Consequently, certainty follows the first jihaad while patience follows the second jihaad, and the most high has said: {We made some of them leaders due to their patience and certainty} [As Sajda/24].

Allaah has informed us that religious leadership is attained with patience and certainty, because patience repels lowly desires while certainty repels doubt.
Fighting The Disbelievers And Hypocrites
This jihaad has four levels:
1. the heart
2. the tongue
3. wealth
4. the body
The hand is usually used when waging jihaad against the disbelievers while the tongue is usually used when waging jihaad against the hypocrites.
Fighting Tyrants, Innovators, And Evildoers
This jihaad has three levels:
1. the hand
2. the tongue
3. the heart
The first level is the highest level.
Thirteen levels of jihaad have preceded, and the prophet (may Allaah send salutations upon him) has said: (if one dies without participating in jihaad or wishing to do so, he dies in a state of hypocrisy).
Jihaad Is Incomplete Without Migration
Jihaad is incomplete without migration and there is no jihaad or migration without faith. As for those who seek the mercy of Allaah, they neglect none of these acts. Allaah the most high has said: {those who believe, migrate, and fight seek mercy for Allaah, and he is forgiving and merciful} [Al Baqara/218]."
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Muslims do not follow you or other liberals. They follow Muhammad. Notice how it says jihad is incomplete without migration. Hint hint!

Tigerace117 said:

Oh look, yet another bigot trying to undermine the Constitution. What a surprise.....not.

I’ll give you a hint buddy. Just about any system of beliefs or values on earth can be twisted, warped or misinterpreted to suit an agenda. That doesn’t give you the right to make blanket statements about millions upon millions of people who’ve never hurt anyone or to try and undermine the freedoms we have in this country.

Lol what a titanic load of crap. No, Muslims do not “come here to murder us”. That’s a downright idiotic claim.

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I have not quoted from just any sources here. I have quoted from the Qur'an: the most important book of Islam. I have quoted from the Tafsir: not just any muslim is allowed to interpret the Qur'an. Tafsir Ibn Kathir and Tafsir Al-Qurtubi are classical tafsirs and accepted by all Sunni muslims which make up 75% of the Islamic world. I have quoted from the Hadith which is the traditions of Muhammad and part of the Sunnah

Noble Qur'an 3:31,

"Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

So every word I quote from the Sunnah (Seerah and Hadith) is also Islamic Scripture. Now you clearly did not read anything I posted about what muslims believe and/or are willing to pretend they don't believe it. But a muslim cannot even make into Islam Paradise without waging jihad against disbelievers.

Noble Qur'an 57:25,

"Indeed We have sent Our Messengers with clear proofs, and revealed with them the Scripture and the Balance (justice) that mankind may keep up justice. And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in matters of war*), as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help Him (His religion) and His Messengers in the unseen. Verily, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty."

*Footnote: "(V.57:25) Paradise is under the blades of swords (Jihad in Allah's Cause).
a) Narrated Al-Mughirah bin Shu'bah: Our Prophet told us about the Message of our Lord that..."Whoever amongst us is killed (in Jihad in Allah's Cause) will go to Paradise." 'Umar asked the Prophet, "Is it not true that our men who are killed (in Jihad in Allah's Cause) will go to Paradise and their's (i.e. those of the pagan's) will go to the (Hell) Fire?" The Prophet said, "Yes."
b) Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa, ! Allah's Messenger said. "Know that Paradise is under the shades of the sword (Jihad in Allah's cause)." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Hadith No.73 and its chapter No.22)."

This is what Islam teaches. My case is clear and muslims who follow this belief system are terrorists.

None of you have answered my question: Where in the Constitution does it say that a foreign army of psychopaths can enter into our nation and kill all disbelievers until there is no more disbelief? Just show me where it says that and I'll shut up about it. I do not think you can find anything that excuses mass extermination of all Americans who don't convert to Islam.

Ploughboy said:

I have not quoted from just any sources here. I have quoted from the Qur'an: the most important book of Islam. I have quoted from the Tafsir: not just any muslim is allowed to interpret the Qur'an. Tafsir Ibn Kathir and Tafsir Al-Qurtubi are classical tafsirs and accepted by all Sunni muslims which make up 75% of the Islamic world. I have quoted from the Hadith which is the traditions of Muhammad and part of the Sunnah

Noble Qur'an 3:31,

"Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

So every word I quote from the Sunnah (Seerah and Hadith) is also Islamic Scripture. Now you clearly did not read anything I posted about what muslims believe and/or are willing to pretend they don't believe it. But a muslim cannot even make into Islam Paradise without waging jihad against disbelievers.

Noble Qur'an 57:25,

"Indeed We have sent Our Messengers with clear proofs, and revealed with them the Scripture and the Balance (justice) that mankind may keep up justice. And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in matters of war*), as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help Him (His religion) and His Messengers in the unseen. Verily, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty."

*Footnote: "(V.57:25) Paradise is under the blades of swords (Jihad in Allah's Cause).
a) Narrated Al-Mughirah bin Shu'bah: Our Prophet told us about the Message of our Lord that..."Whoever amongst us is killed (in Jihad in Allah's Cause) will go to Paradise." 'Umar asked the Prophet, "Is it not true that our men who are killed (in Jihad in Allah's Cause) will go to Paradise and their's (i.e. those of the pagan's) will go to the (Hell) Fire?" The Prophet said, "Yes."
b) Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa, ! Allah's Messenger said. "Know that Paradise is under the shades of the sword (Jihad in Allah's cause)." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Hadith No.73 and its chapter No.22)."

This is what Islam teaches. My case is clear and muslims who follow this belief system are terrorists.

None of you have answered my question: Where in the Constitution does it say that a foreign army of psychopaths can enter into our nation and kill all disbelievers until there is no more disbelief? Just show me where it says that and I'll shut up about it. I do not think you can find anything that excuses mass extermination of all Americans who don't convert to Islam.

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Just to be clear here; is it your position that all Muslims are a "foreign army of psychopaths" who wish to enter your nation and kill all disbelievers until there is no more disbelief and they only come there to kill you all?

What about American Muslims and Muslims already in your Country? How do you feel about them? What should be done about them in your opinion?

Reliance of the Traveller [the book of Islamic sacred law (the sharia)],

JIHAD
o9.0, "(O: Jihad means to war against non-muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said as he was
returning from jihad,

"We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad."
The Scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b7) is such Koranic verses as:

(1) "Fighting is prescribed for you" (Koran 2:216);
(2) " Slay them wherever you find them" (Koran 4:89);
(3) "Fight the idolators utterly" (Koran 9:36)

and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allan bless him and give him peace) said:

"I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah";
and the hadith reported by Muslim,

"To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the world whole world and everything in it."

THE OBLIGATORY CHARACTER OF JIHAD
o9.1, "Jihad is a communal obligation (def:c3.2). When enough people performed it to successfully accomplish it, it is no longer obligatory upon others (O: the evidence for which is the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
"He who provides the equipment for a soldier in jihad has himself performed jihad,"

and Allah Most high having said:

"Those of the believers who are unhurt but sit behind are not equal to those who fight in Allah's path with their property and lives. Allah has preferred those who fight with their property and lives a whole degree above those who sit behind. And to each, Allah has promised great good" (Koran 4:95)".
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Provisions of the Afterlife: Which Lie within Prophetic Gauidance (translated by Ismail Abdus Salaam), p.286,

"Subsequently, Allaah enjoined war against all polytheists. In fact, analysis reveals that jihaad is an individual obligation, whether it be spiritual, monetary, verbal, or physical.
As for physical jihaad, it is a collective obligation and the truth if the matter is that monetary jihaad is also a collective obligation, because Allaah has enjoined the former and latter, and he has said: {proceed in any manner and wage jihaad with your lives and wealth for the sake of Allaah. If you only knew that this is better for you} [At Tawva/41].
Jihaad leads to paradise, and the most high has asked: {O you who believe, shall I inform you of a transaction which will spare you a painful punishment. Believe in Alaah and his messenger and wage jihaad with your lives and wealth for his sake. If you only knew that this is better for you. He will forgive you and place you in fine homes amidst the rivers of paradise. That is the greatest victory} [As Saff/10-12.
Jihaad leads to victory, and Allaah has said: {and other bounties which you will like} [As Saff/12]."

Ploughboy said:

Muslims are permitted to lie to disbelievers if it advances Sharia law. This means they can lie under oath.

Sahih Muslim, Vol.6, Hadith [6633] 101 - (2605),

"Chapter 27. Prohibition Of Lying, And What Is Permitted Thereof
[6633] 101 - (2605) Humaid bin 'Abdur-Rahman bin 'Awf narrated that his mother, Umm Kulthum bint 'Uqbah bin Abi Mu'ait -- who was one of the first Muhajir women who swore alligiance to the Prophet--told him that she heard the Messenger of Allah say: "He is not a liar who reconciles between people, saying good things and conveying good things."
Ibn Shihab said (in his Hadith that she said): "I did not hear of any concession being granted concerning anything that people call lies except in three cases: War, reconciling among people, and what a man says to his wife or a woman says to her husband."

Sahih Muslim, Vol.2 (Summarized edition), Book 55, Chapter 49, hadith 1810,

"(49) CHAPTER. Permissible lies
1810. Umm Kulthum bint 'Uqbah bin Abu Mu'ait (who was from the first emigrants) narrated that she heard the Messenger of Allah saying: "He who makes peace between people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar."
Ibn Shihab said: "I heard nothing where what people say can be permissible as lies except in three: war, to make people reconcile and a man's talk to make his wife happy."
In another narration: Umm Kulthum said: "I heard nothing permissible as a lie except these three."

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No, they are not.

Taqiyya is very much misunderstood. It is a practice that was begun by the Shi'ites during an era when there was much hostilities between Shi'a and Sunni and the Shi'a were deeply persecuted. It became acceptable among the Shi'ites to profess to be Sunni when living in a Sunni Nation. Later it grew to include any instance that contributed to the growth of Shi'ism. Among the Sunni there are instances were some feel it is a forgivable sin to use Taqiyyah. Indeed the 4 Madhabs of Sunni Shariah law do recognize times when taqqiyah would not be a punishable crime those being:

Saving lives, reconciling between people, or creating love between husband and wife.

However the ruling by most scholars of Qur'anic studies and Islamic Jurisprudence are along the following lines:

" . . .We can say, without doubt that, lying is one of the most evil characteristics, of which all religions and systems of ethics warn against and which man's innate common sense (Fitrah) agrees that it is wrong. Any who possess normal chivalry and sound reason would be obliged to same the same. Truthfulness is one of the pillars on which the moral survival of the world depends. It is the foundation of praiseworthy characteristics, the foundation of prophethood, the result of taqwah. Were it not for truthfulness, the rulings of all divinely-revealed laws would collapse. Acquiring the characteristic of lying is akin to shedding one's humanity, because speaking is an exclusively human trait. (Bareeqah Mahmoodiyyah, Muhammad al-Khaadimi, 3/183 ..."

Ploughboy said:

If they were to try and take the country by force right now they would be squashed. Jihad in Europe is in full swing and London now has a muslim Mayor! Thus Political Islam is what threatens us. Here are all the steps of jihad from Islamic law (sharia).

Islamic Jurisprudence:

Provisions Of The Afterlife: Which Lie Within Prophetic Guidance (translation by Ismail Abdus Salaam), pp.262-263,

The Levels Of Jihaad
"There are four levels of jihaad: jihaad waged against the soul, jihaad waged against Shaytaan, jihaad waged against disbelievers, and jihaad waged against hypocrites.
1. One wages jihaad against his soul so that he may learn the religion of truth which is the sole source of happiness and success.
2. One wages jihaad against his soul so that he may act once he has learned. Otherwise, knowledge would be futile if not harmful.
3. One wages jihaad against the his soul so that he may teach. Otherwise, he would be like those who withhold the guidance of Allaah. Consequently, his knowledge would not save him from the punishment of Allaah,
4. One wages jihaad against his soul so that he may endure the difficulty of teaching, and he does so entirely for Allaah.
Once one has completed these four levels, he joins the ranks of those who know the truth and act accordingly.
Fighting Shaytaan
This jihaad has two levels:
1. One wages jihaad against Shaytaan to repel the doubt which he casts.
2. One wages jihaad against Shaytaan to repel his temptation.
Consequently, certainty follows the first jihaad while patience follows the second jihaad, and the most high has said: {We made some of them leaders due to their patience and certainty} [As Sajda/24].

Allaah has informed us that religious leadership is attained with patience and certainty, because patience repels lowly desires while certainty repels doubt.
Fighting The Disbelievers And Hypocrites
This jihaad has four levels:
1. the heart
2. the tongue
3. wealth
4. the body
The hand is usually used when waging jihaad against the disbelievers while the tongue is usually used when waging jihaad against the hypocrites.
Fighting Tyrants, Innovators, And Evildoers
This jihaad has three levels:
1. the hand
2. the tongue
3. the heart
The first level is the highest level.
Thirteen levels of jihaad have preceded, and the prophet (may Allaah send salutations upon him) has said: (if one dies without participating in jihaad or wishing to do so, he dies in a state of hypocrisy).
Jihaad Is Incomplete Without Migration
Jihaad is incomplete without migration and there is no jihaad or migration without faith. As for those who seek the mercy of Allaah, they neglect none of these acts. Allaah the most high has said: {those who believe, migrate, and fight seek mercy for Allaah, and he is forgiving and merciful} [Al Baqara/218]."
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Muslims do not follow you or other liberals. They follow Muhammad. Notice how it says jihad is incomplete without migration. Hint hint!

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A Muslim mayor who supports and protects all Londoners.

Serenity said:

Just to be clear here; is it your position that all Muslims are a "foreign army of psychopaths" who wish to enter your nation and kill all disbelievers until there is no more disbelief and they only come there to kill you all?

What about American Muslims and Muslims already in your Country? How do you feel about them? What should be done about them in your opinion?

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Most Americans muslims want sharia law here. That census was taken not long ago and the majority want sharia law and despise the Constitution. The Qur'an and Sunnah says muslims cannot make it to Paradise unless they have waged jihad against the disbelievers in one form or another. Raising money for phony charities which a portion of the money is sent to jihad fighters. This is what muslim charities do. The Muslim Brotherhood, whom Obama selected roughly 8 or 9 or maybe more members to his regime, were all terrorists. One of Obama's people was arrested in Egypt where he is still in prison to this day. He was supporting the Muslim Brotherhood when Mubarak was in power. My Egyptian source, a Al-Sisi supporter, told me the Muslim Brotherhood was even going to blow up all the pyramids of Egypt and everything culturally unique about Egypt. I guess after watching Isis blow up the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud the later Egyptian pyramids are no big loss to the practicing muslims.

And this is where it comes down to. Sure, you can find examples out there if nice muslims who never read the Qur'an or Sunnah. There are many of them. But Islam is not about muslims and muslims do not make Islam. It's Islam that makes muslims. The deep seed of terrorism is clearly seen in the Qur'an and Sunnah as Muhammad was the father of Islamic terrorism. So its not hard to see how so many muslims can be sensationalized by terrorist ideology when all they have to do is read the Qur'an or the books of Muhammad (Sunnah: Seerah & Hadith).

So what do you do when Muhammad is considered the perfect man and muslims have to follow everything he said and did at all times and in all places? Where is the line drawn? We have millions of Islamic jihadists in the country right now. Our progressive leaders let them in just as they did over in Europe. Now Sweden is gone and will soon fall to Islam. The UK is so brittle it looks like its gonna fall much sooner than expected. Germans are rapidly becoming the minority in Germany and likewise in France the same scenario. Australia and Canada are not taking in millions of jihad fighters. What is the United States gonna do when the rest of the world is conquered and there are only a small handful of non-muslim nations left? There are currently 54 Islamic nations in the world. When Muhammad died there was only one--Arabia. They were all something else before mass genocide was afflicted on them---270-million people were slaughtered to make up these 54 Islamic States. Its called the trail or tears. Lebanon was a very civilized nation until the leaders there decided to allow muslim emigrants. Lebanon is now a muslim country and a haven for terrorists. 1400 years of history do not lie.