Flanders
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Thomas Jefferson should have said Wall of separation between Priesthoods and State:
Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
Organized religions are institutions. Talking about the church & state, religion, and the religious, obscures the issue. Better to talk about the inherent flaws in the institutions of church and state rather than simply serparating them, For instance, atheists who practice Communism/Socialism belong to an organized religion although they would deny it, yet tax dollars every one pays are the equivalent of tithing which is a lot higher than 10 percent in addition to being a violation of the First Amendment.
Then there is the one God idea. Basically, a one government world is the evolutionary consequence of a one God universe.
Also, it is ludicrous to talk about organized religion, God, or state while priesthoods are never mentioned. I always found it odd that corporate executives are attacked every day, while a church’s executives (priests) are held up as models of virtue.
Since the day organized religion was invented every priesthood worked to make their religion the one true religion. That never-ending “competition” put the human race on a fast track to hell the day the one God notion ejaculated organized religion as it is practiced today. From the beginning the elimination of every other religion took priority over forcing everybody to believe in God. Basically, religious fanatics hate alien religious fanatics more than they hate atheists. In today’s world Muslims and Communists are the only priesthoods who proselytize with guns.
Incidentally, people who believe in God, but not religion, do not care what others believe. Did you ever hear of an individual who believed in God beating up someone because they adhered to a religion? How many times has the world seen fanatical believers in one religion trying to wipe out, or convert by force, believers in another religion?
Today’s Muslims reaffirm my long-held view. Individuals were spiritually better-off when there were a bunch of gods; each one specializing in a different realm of piety —— the same as specialists in medicine and law. There are more benefits to be realized from tolerating a plethora of gods as opposed to putting all of our nuts in one squirrel cage.
The major problem with a one government world is that it will probably be a Socialist/Communist totalitarian government, or an equally totalitarian Supreme Deity theocracy. Until then, freedom-loving people still have the option of calling upon the much praised, always ignored, wisdom of the ancients who had a top God right along with a bunch of lesser gods. That is probably the model for our own president and members of Congress.
NOTE: Hinduism teaches a belief in a Supreme Being of many forms and natures, but it falls short of endorsing the ancient belief in numerous gods who spent all of their time aggravating the boss if I remember Roman and Greek mythology accurately.
Alas, the one God crowd controlling governments will not hear of multiple gods. It is all or nothing for them, and what is worse from their point of view is that the multiple-god system of religion would most certainly unleash the forces of cynicism. God forbid a cynical distrust of priests and politicians be encouraged.
See Part 2
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.
Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
Organized religions are institutions. Talking about the church & state, religion, and the religious, obscures the issue. Better to talk about the inherent flaws in the institutions of church and state rather than simply serparating them, For instance, atheists who practice Communism/Socialism belong to an organized religion although they would deny it, yet tax dollars every one pays are the equivalent of tithing which is a lot higher than 10 percent in addition to being a violation of the First Amendment.
Then there is the one God idea. Basically, a one government world is the evolutionary consequence of a one God universe.
Also, it is ludicrous to talk about organized religion, God, or state while priesthoods are never mentioned. I always found it odd that corporate executives are attacked every day, while a church’s executives (priests) are held up as models of virtue.
Since the day organized religion was invented every priesthood worked to make their religion the one true religion. That never-ending “competition” put the human race on a fast track to hell the day the one God notion ejaculated organized religion as it is practiced today. From the beginning the elimination of every other religion took priority over forcing everybody to believe in God. Basically, religious fanatics hate alien religious fanatics more than they hate atheists. In today’s world Muslims and Communists are the only priesthoods who proselytize with guns.
Incidentally, people who believe in God, but not religion, do not care what others believe. Did you ever hear of an individual who believed in God beating up someone because they adhered to a religion? How many times has the world seen fanatical believers in one religion trying to wipe out, or convert by force, believers in another religion?
Today’s Muslims reaffirm my long-held view. Individuals were spiritually better-off when there were a bunch of gods; each one specializing in a different realm of piety —— the same as specialists in medicine and law. There are more benefits to be realized from tolerating a plethora of gods as opposed to putting all of our nuts in one squirrel cage.
The major problem with a one government world is that it will probably be a Socialist/Communist totalitarian government, or an equally totalitarian Supreme Deity theocracy. Until then, freedom-loving people still have the option of calling upon the much praised, always ignored, wisdom of the ancients who had a top God right along with a bunch of lesser gods. That is probably the model for our own president and members of Congress.
NOTE: Hinduism teaches a belief in a Supreme Being of many forms and natures, but it falls short of endorsing the ancient belief in numerous gods who spent all of their time aggravating the boss if I remember Roman and Greek mythology accurately.
Alas, the one God crowd controlling governments will not hear of multiple gods. It is all or nothing for them, and what is worse from their point of view is that the multiple-god system of religion would most certainly unleash the forces of cynicism. God forbid a cynical distrust of priests and politicians be encouraged.
See Part 2
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