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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Taxing religious organizations is not going to reduce your property taxes by any appreciable amount.

    They're tax-exempt because your fellow citizens don't want to tax their houses of worship.

    It's also a pretty old tradition, dating back to Constantine.

    US law stipulates that churches that engage in political advocacy lose their tax-exempt status; though rarely enforced, this reinforces the separation of church and state. If tax exemptions are gone, churches will be free to endorse candidates and advocate political positions. And of course, they may get politically involved to regain their former tax-exempt status. There may be valid reasons to revoke the exemption, but "taxing churches will increase the separation of church and state" is not one of them.

    Last but not least, they are non-profit organizations, which are generally tax-exempt.
    Is Scientology non profit?
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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Given that the church was tax exempt before you moved to the area, you're not subsidizing anything. You are subsidizing the schools with most of those taxes.
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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    As a land owner in San Antonio who pays a substantial amount of $$ in property taxes, I am perplexed why I should subsidize religious organizations thru my property taxes. I live quite close to downtown, a location where there are many large Churches, some with pay as you go parking lots, childcare centers, and restaurants. These Churches sit on large lots with multiple buildings. and I for one feel like as a property tax payer my rights (separation of Church and State) are being violated by subsidizing there tax exempt status. Churches use local and community services, they should pay up like the rest of us. Opinions? Please lets not bash anyone religion, that's not the intent, a sane rational discussion of why the Federal government allows this free ride would be cool.

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    them not paying taxes doesn't mean you are paying them. even if they did pay for them your taxes would stay the same or worse go up as
    their property value would be huge.

    then we can see you complain that your property taxes skyrocketed due to the church down the street.
    lets not bash anyone's religion but then that is why you started the thread.

    most church's act as charity organizations helping out the local community.

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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    You might wanna read that 1st amendment again(for the first time), it doesn't say anything about separation of church and state
    I would answer that but choose not to respond to sarcasm. Reword without the unnecessary sarcasm and I will answer.

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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    them not paying taxes doesn't mean you are paying them. even if they did pay for them your taxes would stay the same or worse go up as
    their property value would be huge.

    then we can see you complain that your property taxes skyrocketed due to the church down the street.
    lets not bash anyone's religion but then that is why you started the thread.

    most church's act as charity organizations helping out the local community.
    Most churches don't have to follow the IRS guidelines for charities, separate rule book.

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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    As a gay man, I can honestly say, I don't find that offense, quite the opposite.
    Fine. I don't care either way.

    It clearly shows your ignorance on the issue.
    No, actually it shows yours; there is over 300 years of American history you need to catch up on.

    And what does that have to do with the taxation of churches? Nothing!!

    Keep on topic
    It's very much on topic, and everything to do with your 'talking point'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    What was the topic again? Your ignorant claim that "separation of church and state" is a right? or maybe your ignorance of Walz v Tax Commission of the City of New York (1970) which ruled that property tax exemptions dont violate the establishment clause?
    My ignorance?

    Why you being rude?

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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Fine. I don't care either way.



    No, actually it shows yours; there is over 300 years of American history you need to catch up on.

    I have a Masters In European history, I know the documents you are referring to, and I don't have to use sarcasm to make a point.



    It's very much on topic, and everything to do with your 'talking point'.
    I have a Masters In European history, I know the documents you are referring to, and I don't have to use sarcasm to make a point. What is it with some you folks, you get extra points for sarcasm? It brings nothing intelligent to the conversation.

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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    Most churches don't have to follow the IRS guidelines for charities, separate rule book.
    you are 100% wrong. church have to account to where they spend their money at the end of the year and what they spent it on.
    they have to follow the same IRS standards as everyone else in their classification.

    that is why some of these mega church's got into some serious trouble.

    you really don't know what you are talking about.

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    Re: Tax Exemption for Churches

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    question?..... then why am i and others to subsidize people on welfare, and other government social programs.
    Your argument is not related to the question in the OP. Following your reasoning why should we pay sugar subsidies, or pay for financial support of pharmaceutical corporations, oil, banking, farms, education, and on and on.

    Your argument is not germane.








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