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Thread: Atheism is a religion [W:1586,2242]

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    Re: Atheism is a religion [W:1586,2242]

    Quote Originally Posted by Russell797 View Post
    How have leprechauns been proven not to exist? Has anyone ever proven leprechauns not to exist?

    The answer is that leprechauns have not been proven to not exist. A negative can not be "disproven".

    No rational person thinks they do exist for the simple reason that they have not been demonstrated to exist. There is not any suggestive evidence for leprechauns. If and when such evidence does become available then and only then will the rational person think there is a chance leprechauns exist. Failing to prove leprechauns do not exist tells us nothing about whether or not they do exist. You can't even logically claim it's possible leprechauns exist because they have not been shown not to exist. Possibilities require knowledge of rules which would make them possible. We know of no rules, natural laws or anything which would enable the existence of leprechauns,,,,,,or god.
    Well, there is some suggestive evidence for the existence of fairies, which includes leprechauns. There is a near universality across cultures of hidden people/spirit folk that match descriptions of fairies. There is the case of Thomas of Ercldoun, aka Thomas the Rhymer, who is known to have existed and was known for his prophecy, which allegedly came from his experience of 7 years in Fairyland. Sightings and abductions were relatively common, and theoretically, alien sightings could be attributed to Fairies.

    Their lack of current evidence could also be explained if they were more electro-magnetic in nature (which would explain their invisibility, shape-shifting, and aversion to iron) as the modern prevalence of elecro-magnetic radiation would be extremely harmful.

    Of course there are better explanations for all that than actual existence of fairies. And there's no real evidence for the existence of supernatural or electro-magnetic based beings. So we cannot reject the null hypothesis of "Fairies do not exist" and therefore cannot accept the hypothesis that they do.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: Atheism is a religion [W:1586,2242]

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Well, there is some suggestive evidence for the existence of fairies, which includes leprechauns. There is a near universality across cultures of hidden people/spirit folk that match descriptions of fairies. There is the case of Thomas of Ercldoun, aka Thomas the Rhymer, who is known to have existed and was known for his prophecy, which allegedly came from his experience of 7 years in Fairyland. Sightings and abductions were relatively common, and theoretically, alien sightings could be attributed to Fairies.

    Their lack of current evidence could also be explained if they were more electro-magnetic in nature (which would explain their invisibility, shape-shifting, and aversion to iron) as the modern prevalence of elecro-magnetic radiation would be extremely harmful.

    Of course there are better explanations for all that than actual existence of fairies. And there's no real evidence for the existence of supernatural or electro-magnetic based beings. So we cannot reject the null hypothesis of "Fairies do not exist" and therefore cannot accept the hypothesis that they do.
    It all boils down to one simple demand.....show me the bones. Anything less than that is circumstantial and suspect at best. Everything which has ever existed or exists imprints evidence of it's being on the universe. Every beat of a heart leaves an indelible imprint on it's surroundings which changes the universe forever. Find it and I can begin to accept what caused it.
    "Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge."

    -Carl Sagan

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    Re: Atheism is a religion [W:1586,2242]

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBY View Post
    You are admitting you don't have the tools for your belief system.
    Christianity isn't a religion. It's a cult, which brainwashes its members into believing in supernatural deities in order to use the labor and resources of the members to prop up the leadership of the cult and grow the membership.

    Atheists attend no organized ceremonies or meetings to be indoctrinated and brainwashed. They pay no tithes or pledge personal resources or wealth to support an organization that's sole purpose is to proliferate it's membership in order to grow the wealth of the organization and its leaders.

    There is no mental resources spent to sustain an indoctrination that is often imposed on children so that they are prone to follow in the traditions of their parent(s) or guardians to continue to participate in a given indoctrination and brainwashing in order to perpetuate the cult.

    There's no investment, mental or otherwise, to extend one's efforts outside our empirical existence.

    When I see cartoon characters in movies that performed what would be considered as supernatural feats, I don't ponder the possibility that they are in fact supernatural beings.

    Reality is a wonderful thing. Try it sometime.

    "We risk being the first people in history to have been able to make their illusions so vivid, so persuasive, so realistic that they can live in them." ~~~ Daniel J. Boorstin

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