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Liberty taken way - shame!

ChezC3 said:
Awe... Schmoopie...Please show me the map where I have made my opinion on the subject one way or the other, would you be so kind?

Then after that Cuddle butt, please create a thread and ask all non-US citizens and/or residents to identify themselves so the mods have an easier time sniffing them out and blocking their IPs.

Surely they have no business speaking on anything going on in the orange country and as such should be simply barred from giving their opinion. Making life easier not having to look at their intrusive opinions of which they shouldn’t have because they aren’t affected.

Wouldn’t you agree, Sugar-bottom?

By the way Puddin, Germany is my favorite country. Aside from my own.
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:lamo

One has to admire how much you have sunk into childish insults. They're a dead giveaway that you have lost this argument and have nothing left. :)
 
Phys251 said:
:lamo

One has to admire how much you have sunk into childish insults. They're a dead giveaway that you have lost this argument and have nothing left. :)
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Terms of endearment = childish insults?

Snuggums, you lost this argument the minute you hit "Reply With Quote"

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ChezC3 said:
Terms of endearment = childish insults?

Snuggums, you lost this argument the minute you hit "Reply With Quote"

:lamo
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I'm so sorry that you feel that your juvenile insults are actually a winning argument. In the real world, debates do not work that way. ;)
 
Phys251 said:
I'm so sorry that you feel that your juvenile insults are actually a winning argument. In the real world, debates do not work that way. ;)
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You think you're debating?

:lamo
 
eman623 said:
Can the prime minister of Canada all by himself just declare that a bunch of legal guns are now illegal and you have 2 years to turn them in for confiscation?

It will be interesting to see what they mean by "assault style". Will it just mean "scary looking" like it does here, or will they just ban all rifles that fire more than one shot between reloadings?
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Yes he can, because the cabinet is granted that authority under the Firearms Act.

You can read the 69 page long list of banned weapons here.
 
Carjosse said:
Yes he can, because the cabinet is granted that authority under the Firearms Act.

You can read the 69 page long list of banned weapons here.
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69 pages you say? Well, that will certainly foil the forces of darkness!
 
I love how Americans evidently care about this far more than the Canadians.

As a dual citizen, I couldn't give two ****s to be honest; at worst, it's a bit more draconian than it needs to be, but this is certainly nothing I would be up in arms, pun unintended, over.
 
Surrealistik said:
I love how Americans evidently care about this far more than the Canadians.

As a dual citizen, I couldn't give two ****s to be honest; at worst, it's a bit more draconian than it needs to be, but this is certainly nothing I would be up in arms, pun unintended, over.
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:lamo Glad I read to the end of this thread, otherwise I would have embarrassed myself by basically saying the exact same thing.

No, I don't think this will solve anything. I've enjoyed shooting an AR-15 down range at paper targets on a number of occasions, but not to where I'm losing my mind over this. Canadians overwhelmingly support this initiative.

Four-in-five Canadians support complete ban on civilian possession of assault style weapons - Angus Reid Institute

Maybe we should be "free" to dictate our own policy, without worrying about what the pro-gun crowd in America thinks of it. Just a thought... ;)

Again, I don't think this is going to solve anything, and I don't think the path to ownership of these weapons was lax previously. But, if Canadians support the notion of getting rid of them, isn't that how democracy works?
 
This is how stupid the Canadians are.

A Cosplay Storm Trooper was arrested on Star Wars Day because she had a plastic "Blaster".

Shame on the anti gunners. Complete idiots!. As bad as our anti gun clowns.

 
PCB66 said:
This is how stupid the Canadians are.

A Cosplay Storm Trooper was arrested on Star Wars Day because she had a plastic "Blaster".

Shame on the anti gunners. Complete idiots!. As bad as our anti gun clowns.

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PCB66:

It is common knowledge that the Lethbridge RCMP are agents of the Rebel Alliance! :)

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Evilroddy said:
PCB66:

It is common knowledge that the Lethbridge RCMP are agents of the Rebel Alliance! :)

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
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That would explain a lot.

However, there is another video of one of their police running over a deer and then backing up and running it over a couple of more times.

I doubt they are the Rebel Alliance. More like the Evil Empire.
 
PCB66 said:
Well the assholes did it.

Took away Liberty from the citizens of Canada. Just like in Australia, UK and NZ.

A few years back the sonofabitches had a firearm registry so they know where to send the thugs.

Shame!

Hopefully the citizens of Canada won't allow this tyranny to happen. This is what you get when you elect stupid Left Wing assholes like Trudeau. A lesson for this country.

Canada bans assault-style weapons after its worst ever mass murder - CNN

Canada bans assault-style weapons after its worst ever mass murder

(CNN)Assault-style weapons are banned in Canada effective immediately, the country's prime minister said Friday.
The move comes less than two weeks after Canada's deadliest rampage in modern history, when a gunman in Nova Scotia killed 22 people after a 12-hour reign of terror.
"You don't need an AR-15 to bring down a deer," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said at a news conference in Ottawa. "So, effective immediately, it is no longer permitted to buy, sell, transport, import or use military-grade assault weapons in this country."
Police said the gunman had several semi-automatic handguns and at least two semi-automatic rifles, one of which was described by witnesses as a military-style assault weapon.


"These weapons were designed for one purpose, and one purpose only, to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time. There is no use and no place for such weapons in Canada," Trudeau said.
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Most Canadians like myself do not have a problem with gun control but to make a long story short, the legislation is deeply flawed. Many of the rifles listed are not assault rifles.

We have an issue with hand guns in cities and certain weapons but this legislation is full of false assumptions about weapons.

Regulation if done within reason sure. When done arbitrarily and as as knee jerk feel good reaction which it was, is not good law. Yah we had a mad man in Nova Scotia dress up like a cop and kill people and burn houses. Our PM the day after this tragedy suddenly announced a ban on 1,200 types of rifles.

NOT well thought out at all. Hey I am no fan of guns most Canadians are not but most of our rural dwellers, gun club members and subsistence hunters and registered sports hunters are not the issue. Hand guns in cities are.

We have had mental cases with rifles yes. They will not be prevented in this current proposed ban. As for had guns I personally believe they belong in gun clubs. I do not like cops having to deal with them on routine stops. In Canada our attitude about hand guns is they are not needed. We have a different history. Our police only started carrying hand guns in the 60's.

We were more like Britain in our approach to guns and policing.

In any event even moderates like me agree with you on this one. By the way our gun clubs take their roles very seriously and so do many of our hunting associations. I do not hunt for sport. Me personally I would do it to eat not for sport but most of our hunters are responsible and yes some are drunk aholes and poach off season but they are a minority not condoned by sports clubs at all.

We also have complex laws that must recognize aboriginal rights to rifles so they can hunt.

We also need rifles like all rural dwellers do. Coyotes, rabid animals, rats, sometimes have to get shot. Bleeding hearts like me get that. Ni love the bush. I won't use one but I will use a fire cracker
on a coyote or bush wolf or bear doubling back on me. I am no angel. I eat frogs, grasshoppers, snails, fish. It's just I prefer laying low. This bullshot about rifles is nonsense. Peop,e need them to hunt. They might shoot a moose but it feeds a whole bunch of people all winter. There are no Big Macs or cellophane wrapped meat for such people.

I get my dislike of rifles from cleaning up dead people from one of my jobs. It's not based on disrespect of people who need them.
 
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PCB66 said:
This is how stupid the Canadians are.

A Cosplay Storm Trooper was arrested on Star Wars Day because she had a plastic "Blaster".

Shame on the anti gunners. Complete idiots!. As bad as our anti gun clowns.

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Careful when slurring us all in one brush. Yoh might get a hockey stick shoved up your Grand Canyon. Take her easy ay.
 
To PCBs other comments..we prefer Tim Hortons to that illuminati Starbucks coffee and Dunkin Doughnut coffee is axel grease and yer beer is piss. I am in Toronto so we support the Bill's and their Trip.e A ball team is Toronto Blue Jay affiliate so we got an alliance with Buffalonians.

Also bein from Montreal originally hockey is crucial and Toronto is too expensive to watch a game in, I much prefer Buffalo. Their fans are great and I can afford a ticket there.

So be careful I got lots of Yank friends especially vets. Some of us know things about Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Serbia, Vietnam, Korea, Normandy, that transcends politics.

Yes we have a PM identical to Richard Simmons in leadership style. Wec know not to bend over.
 
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Mika-El said:
Most Canadians like myself do not have a problem with gun control but to make a long story short, the legislation is deeply flawed. Many of the rifles listed are not assault rifles.

We have an issue with hand guns in cities and certain weapons but this legislation is full of false assumptions about weapons.

Regulation if done within reason sure. When done arbitrarily and as as knee jerk feel good reaction which it was, is not good law. Yah we had a mad man in Nova Scotia dress up like a cop and kill people and burn houses. Our PM the day after this tragedy suddenly announced a ban on 1,200 types of rifles.

NOT well thought out at all. Hey I am no fan of guns most Canadians are not but most of our rural dwellers, gun club members and subsistence hunters and registered sports hunters are not the issue. Hand guns in cities are.

We have had mental cases with rifles yes. They will not be prevented in this current proposed ban. As for had guns I personally believe they belong in gun clubs. I do not like cops having to deal with them on routine stops. In Canada our attitude about hand guns is they are not needed. We have a different history. Our police only started carrying hand guns in the 60's.

We were more like Britain in our approach to guns and policing.

In any event even moderates like me agree with you on this one. By the way our gun clubs take their roles very seriously and so do many of our hunting associations. I do not hunt for sport. Me personally I would do it to eat not for sport but most of our hunters are responsible and yes some are drunk aholes and poach off season but they are a minority not condoned by sports clubs at all.

We also have complex laws that must recognize aboriginal rights to rifles so they can hunt.

We also need rifles like all rural dwellers do. Coyotes, rabid animals, rats, sometimes have to get shot. Bleeding hearts like me get that. Ni love the bush. I won't use one but I will use a fire cracker
on a coyote or bush wolf or bear doubling back on me. I am no angel. I eat frogs, grasshoppers, snails, fish. It's just I prefer laying low. This bullshot about rifles is nonsense. Peop,e need them to hunt. They might shoot a moose but it feeds a whole bunch of people all winter. There are no Big Macs or cellophane wrapped meat for such people.

I get my dislike of rifles from cleaning up dead people from one of my jobs. It's not based on disrespect of people who need them.
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Bolt action rifles, were not banned, they are perfectly fine for hunting any kind of animal. What they do not have is a high ammo capacity, limiting the amount of fire before reloading can occur. That period of time in reloading can allow for people to take action to take the person down (at least a better chance than without semiautomatic weapon with large ammo capacities.

60+ years ago, farmers and hunters would have been using bolt action rifles for hunting. 22's for gophers and other smaller animals, 308, 303's etc for hunting large animals like elk, bears etc.. If their parents and grand parents could protect their farms and ranches with bolt action rifles, the farmers and ranchers of today can do the same

Heck most bolt action rifles will be more accurate than semiautomatics and most hunters that I know use bolt action rifles and not semi automatics
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Bolt action rifles, were not banned, they are perfectly fine for hunting any kind of animal. What they do not have is a high ammo capacity, limiting the amount of fire before reloading can occur. That period of time in reloading can allow for people to take action to take the person down (at least a better chance than without semiautomatic weapon with large ammo capacities.

60+ years ago, farmers and hunters would have been using bolt action rifles for hunting. 22's for gophers and other smaller animals, 308, 303's etc for hunting large animals like elk, bears etc.. If their parents and grand parents could protect their farms and ranches with bolt action rifles, the farmers and ranchers of today can do the same

Heck most bolt action rifles will be more accurate than semiautomatics and most hunters that I know use bolt action rifles and not semi automatics
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Your comment about bolt action rifles is not accurate.

There are in fact numerous semti automatic rifles more accurate than bolt action rifles and so less likely only to wound the animal causing if to suffer needlessly until its shot in the head.

Semi automatic rifles lumped into the category of assault rifles and steretypes and only being used to kill people which the ban proposes is illogical. Their purpose varies.

For that matter, any weapon can kill if used properly including bolt action rifles.

Furthermore many hunters use shot-guns which are not bolt action and they are not assault rifles.

The issue with the ban is someone made an arbitrary assumption as to 2,000 categories of rifle as capable only of being used to kill people and therefore should be banned. It was an arbitrary steretype and based on an ignorance of different types of rifles. Assault rifle as they are defined in the ban was based on an assumption as to how they could be used not their actual firing capacity.

That is why the ban is defective. It did not objectively consider the calibre and mechanical as well as firing characteristics of each weapon. By simply assuming the weapon could be used to kill,this should mean any rifle and for that matter cross bows as well as cars should be banned because all could be used as an assault weapon. Why stop there? Let's ban anything that can be hand held.

The use of the term assault was defined in the ban so widely as to defy common sense.

Again in Canada we do not perceive rifles as a political right but a tool of necessity. Our laws regulating them come from common law decisions not our consitution and we determine regulation using the standard of reasonability.

Most of our gun owners are not against regulation, just unreasonable regulation.
 
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