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Generations?
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Generations?
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I was just too damned mad to bother with a reasoned response such as this. Well done and thanks for taking the time (even though you're never going to get through to him).
OOPS...
Allow me to introduce you to a real asshole then.
Quebec SHOULD be one of the jewels of Canada. Instead its a net cost. And why? Tell me...which city in Canada was the big financial center in the 50's and 60's? Even the 70's still? Ya...that would be Montreal. What happened? Rene Levesque. The Quebec Separatists...and their language laws.
Ya got what y'all paid for.
lol...I don't think so man.
What? You don't think Alberta was a 'have-not province' for generations? When did the big oil boom-times start, late 70's? 80's?
And this is why I think you along with stevecanuck are among the worst Canadians I have had the displeasure of interacting with. You both do nothing but espouse lies and vitrol towards other Canadians.
It is the off-island suburbs of Montreal and Quebec City that are the problem, not Montreal. They are the ones who oppose every measure to try and increase economic productivity in Quebec and they are the ones who brought the CAQ to power and the CAQ are trying their hardest to make sure Quebec never becomes more economically productive.
The Liberals were trying to change things but the traditional Quebecois wanted nothing to do with it.
What? You don't think Alberta was a 'have-not province' for generations? When did the big oil boom-times start, late 70's? 80's?
Equalization didn't start until '72.
You're right, my bad. I was a child in the late 60s when I first heard the term 'have-not province' and I assumed it refered then to equalization payments. Must have been the lead-up to the program being implemented.
Nonsense - but then you're in Montreal so I expect nothing better. You love to spout environmentalism on the rest of Canada while your Mayor approves dumping billions of liters of raw sewage into the St. Lawrence River, just as one example of your Province and its citizens not giving a rat's ass about anyone other then your own self interest. You take $billions from other provinces, use it to prop up unreasonably cheap daycare, and then lecture other provinces for not having cheap daycare. You pass laws that make it illegal to use English, one of Canada's two official languages, in the business environment, and then bitch and moan when other provinces don't go out of their way to waste $millions propping up the use of French. I could go on, but the record of Quebec in the Canadian federation just makes me want to vomit.
Subsidized daycare has been a massive success, it provides far more economic benefit than it costs, it gets people who otherwise would not be able to to get into the workforce and start paying taxes, it allows working families to keep more of their income. Why are you so opposed to a measure that actually helps Quebec be more economically productive? It is one of the few things that does increase economic productivity, and other provinces would do well to adopt it. Do you think paying $50/day for childcare in Toronto has no negative effects on the economy?
Raw sewage does not create the same damage dumping oil all over Quebec would. It is also the fact that they thought they can do it with no consultation of BC or Quebec, or the citizens of those provinces, they thought they could just build it and no one would ever ask questions about it.
English is still widely used even in large companies, I can guarantee you that. I worked in a company of several thousand and spoke nothing but English, other departments spoke French. There are French speakers outside of Quebec believe it or not and they deserve services as well, there is clearly a demand for it. Try saying that French is a waste to the MPPs who represents ridings with significant French-speaking populations, one of them even left the PCs over it.
You hold nothing but contempt for Quebec and Francophones.
[h=2]Kenney wins landslide in Alberta against carbon tax: vows War Room against energy activists[/h]
[h=3]Yet another big win against carbon taxes: Abbott, Trump, Fordand now Kenney[/h]The first pledge was to get rid of the carbon tax. The victory was a scorching 63 to 24 seats, or 55% to 32%.
Alberta is a conservative province of Canada with 4 million people. It’s wealthy from oil, gas and agriculture. (It’s not that different to Queensland and WA.). Jason Kenney is on a mission to get the province back from environmental zealots: fergoodnesssake, he even vowed to set up a ‘War Room’ against energy activists.
The greens were the main target and the people said “Yes”.
Conservatives win big victory in Alberta, Canada
The right-leaning United Conservative Party (UCP) has taken power in the oil-rich Canadian province of Alberta, routing the left-leaning NDP.
[h=4]It was a landslide victory:[/h]
…Kenney defeated center-left incumbent Rachel Notley, 55, whose New Democratic Party snapped four decades of conservative rule in 2015. His UCP won 63 seats in the provincial legislature, against 24 for Notley’s NDP,
He’s vowed to get stalled pipelines built, scrap the province’s carbon tax, and create a “war room” to hit back at anti-oil-sands campaigners. He also pledged to cut corporate taxes and balance the province’s books in his first term.
– Kevin Orland, BloombergThe Rachel Notley New Democratic government was a one term wonder in Alberta:
The United Conservative Party’s win will mark a sharp turn in the province’s environmental policy. The NDP introduced a number of stringent climate measures in 2015 that included the province’s first ever economy-wide carbon tax. Kenney has promised to repeal that tax as one of his first policy moves after taking power.
[h=3]First order of business to get rid of the carbon tax[/h]After it’s gone, Trudeau will force a federal one on Alberta, and Kenney will oppose that in court:
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The two biggest promises he made are out of his control
Scrap the carbon tax and a federal one would be imposed. The spending commitments (which includes LRT in Calgary) that are backed by the provincial carbon tax would need new sources of revenue, the federal tax would be rebated to lower income Albertans, and not available to the provincial government.
The pipelines are stalled because of courts in other provinces, and Keystone in the US by US courts. Kenny will have zero control over those things.
Cutting taxes is likely impossible given the deficit in Alberta is huge $10 billion a year. Cutting taxes in any meaningful way would see that go even higher. Cutting health care, or education will see the UCP lose the next election (he could freeze spending levels). So the deficit without a massive spike in the price of oil the deficit is not going away in less than 4 years
So three of his top four promises will be broken and the strains between rural and urban center right UCP members will spike. Which was the reason for the split in Alberta conservatives in the first place
I suspect that he would prefer the issues rather than solutions at first, but Canadian politics is not my strong suit.
First time I heard the phrase 'have-not province' it was Albertans making their case for equalization payments. When they started to rake in the revenues of the oil boom-times and Trudeau 1.0 said Canada needs a National Energy Policy so maritimers who heat with oil didn't have to pay world-market prices half the bumpers in Alberta had stickers that said, "Let them freeze in the dark!"
But any talk of separatism in Alberta is beyond ridiculous and Albertans know it.
When Sneaky Pete was in power, there was a movement for "The Republic of Western Canada" where BC, AB, SK and MB wanted to separate and form their own country.
I remember people talking about it the first time I visited Canada in 1981.
Record-breaking number of votes cast at Alberta election advance polls | Globalnews.ca
Looks like all the Bubbas and Jim Bobs in Alberta are butthurt that they're not allowed to destroy the environment with their pipelines, so they're going to try and leave Canada. I expect Trump to make them the 51st state to add another red state for his reelection.
Why would we ever do that? All you do is antagonize and insult the rest of Canada with the exception of your buddy Saskatchewan. You want to force the pipeline on other provinces without consulting them or their people in any way. Maybe try raising taxes and investing in alternative industries to oil, be less reliant on oil or actually cooperate with the other provinces.
Are you even a Canadian? Alberta has been contributing equilization payments for decades, not taking yhem.Get what right? After generations of drawing equalization payments like welfare bums Alberta suddenly realizes they had the intelligence and foresight to hide oil under those dirt-poor farms and tar-paper shacks and now resents having to contribute to the rest of the country?
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[h=1]Alberta Introduces Carbon Tax Repeal Bill[/h][FONT="][FONT=inherit]From OILPRICE By Irina Slav – May 23, 2019, 9:30 AM CDT Staying true to their promise from the campaign trail, Alberta’s Conservatives have introduced a bill to repeal a carbon tax introduced by their predecessors at the helm of the province, the New Democratic Party. Reuters reports that the repealment of the carbon tax…[/FONT]
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Idiotic move from an Alberta standpoint
The minute Alberta drops its Carbon tax, the federal one kicks in. The revenue from the provincial carbon tax went to the Alberta government for spending as it saw fit. Now it will be spent as the federal government desires, with most coming back to Alberta as a rebate to lower income families. A smarter move would have been to lower the Alberta one to the same level as the feds, and then try to challenge the carbon tax.
Now the federal carbon tax has been ruled as valid in Sask, by its top court, and the Alberta challenge will fail as well. But now the Alberta government will not have as much revenue as before, leading to higher deficits.
Ideology before intelligent policy