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CAQ religious symbols ban

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The CAQ (Coalition Avenir Quebec), Quebec's provincial govt tabled its religious symbol ban today
CAQ tables controversial secularism bill, banning public employees from wearing religious symbols at work | Globalnews.ca

I think its silly that the govt tries to tell people what they can or cannot wear except for positions where a uniform is in place (police ex) and a general office attire (no ripped pants type thing).

Aside from the freedom angle I also think it does the exact opposite of the stated aim (I say stated as many believe it is just an attack on certain religions) of removing religion from the workings of the state. If for example you have a teacher that wears a hijab or a kippa it will probably give you a good indication on where they stand on middle eastern issues and thus you can write papers with that in mind. (yeah I know teachers should look at the merits of the argument not their personal bias but come on in the real world....) Or say you are going in front of a judge wearing a kippa and you are Muslim wearing a hijab you dont think that will have an effect (vice versa as well). If you see them sporting their religious symbols you can remove yours if you think there might be a bias (or keep them if you think that would help as well).
Not everyone who is religious wears religious symbols and not everyone who wears religious symbols is religious but in general (aside from crosses on necklaces apparently) most people who do wear them identify with a specific religious/cultural community and telling them to hide that fact will have no effect on their personal beliefs/prejudices. What it will do is alienate certain parts of the population who feel very strongly about their accoutrement.


CAQ has a majority so it will pass and it will be challenged and certainly lose in court but CAQ has stated they will use the not withstanding clause.
 
Quag said:
The CAQ (Coalition Avenir Quebec), Quebec's provincial govt tabled its religious symbol ban today
CAQ tables controversial secularism bill, banning public employees from wearing religious symbols at work | Globalnews.ca

I think its silly that the govt tries to tell people what they can or cannot wear except for positions where a uniform is in place (police ex) and a general office attire (no ripped pants type thing).

Aside from the freedom angle I also think it does the exact opposite of the stated aim (I say stated as many believe it is just an attack on certain religions) of removing religion from the workings of the state. If for example you have a teacher that wears a hijab or a kippa it will probably give you a good indication on where they stand on middle eastern issues and thus you can write papers with that in mind. (yeah I know teachers should look at the merits of the argument not their personal bias but come on in the real world....) Or say you are going in front of a judge wearing a kippa and you are Muslim wearing a hijab you dont think that will have an effect (vice versa as well). If you see them sporting their religious symbols you can remove yours if you think there might be a bias (or keep them if you think that would help as well).
Not everyone who is religious wears religious symbols and not everyone who wears religious symbols is religious but in general (aside from crosses on necklaces apparently) most people who do wear them identify with a specific religious/cultural community and telling them to hide that fact will have no effect on their personal beliefs/prejudices. What it will do is alienate certain parts of the population who feel very strongly about their accoutrement.


CAQ has a majority so it will pass and it will be challenged and certainly lose in court but CAQ has stated they will use the not withstanding clause.
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It is the CAQ, they only care about pandering to their backward electorate. They see those that mainly live on the island (immigrants, Muslims, Jews, Anglophones, even just people who use public transit) as lesser, unworthy of protections, funding, or anything. There is no reason to believe that someone who wears a kippa or hijab cannot perform their job just because they are wearing a religious symbol. This is nothing but pandering to Islamophobes and anti-semities, the two main groups who would be affected by this.

Quebec was making progress under the Liberals but the CAQ seem determined to undo any progress Quebec has made and seemingly do everything they can to undermine those who live on the island of Montreal.
 
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Carjosse said:
It is the CAQ, they only care about pandering to their backward electorate. They see those that mainly live on the island (immigrants, Muslims, Jews, Anglophones, even just people who use public transit) as lesser, unworthy of protections, funding, or anything. There is no reason to believe that someone who wears a kippa or hijab cannot perform their job just because they are wearing a religious symbol. This is nothing but pandering to Islamophobes and anti-semities, the two main groups who would be affected by this.

Quebec was making progress under the Liberals but the CAQ seem determined to undo any progress Quebec has made and seemingly do everything they can to undermine those who live on the island of Montreal.
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The CAQ appear to have the majority of the population on their side which doesn't make them right but does mean they can win if this is the major issue next time around
Laicite: une majorite de Quebecois appuie la CAQ, revele un sondage – Journal Metro
 
Much of Quebec remains a deeply tribal and xenophobic society. Don't get me wrong, Québécois society is struggling to become more cosmopolitan and inclusive but it's an up-hill battle to break 400-year-old traditions of inward-looking self-reliance and outward-looking suspicion. The CAQ is tapping into that xenophobic tribalism in order to position Quebec to better extort political and economic concessions out of the rest of Canada and to set the stage for another independence referendum should that political extortion not prove sufficiently fruitful. Use of the Notwithstanding Clause will polarise Canada. Canada welcomes foreign cultures and celebrates the diversity they offer to their new country but Quebec only tolerates them if they will speak French and become culturally invisible. Change/progress in culture is slow in Quebec.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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